Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's the Beef?

[Jumptheshark]

If you read it it makes sense and works, if you just see Jarry and Nurse, then your confusion make sense.

Also the rest of you read Nurse going the other way right?

Nurse contract goes till 2030(I think) and TJs till 2028. It is a $$$$ thing. Pickard does not have much value and we are in love with Akey--but he has the shiny new toy thing. WE think he moves the dial on dumping Nurse.

Nurse has 64.75Mill left on his contract after this season and TJ has 16.125 left after this season. Meaning we have 48.625 swing in cap. We are looking at a cap situation. Most are looking at it from the oilers perspective and think other teams will do us favors. The Pens would send equal money back.

So today we're just going to whine about past moves or non-moves, sounds good. lolol

welcome to the oiler board--we like pissing into the wind on a cold and stormy nights

 

[Jumptheshark]

With any Nurse trade there is always two questions I ask

1) Why is the other team doing it
2) Does the money Balance

we are in the cap world and number 2 will always be asked

 

[Mr Positive]

With any Nurse trade there is always two questions I ask

1) Why is the other team doing it
2) Does the money Balance

we are in the cap world and number 2 will always be asked

3) will Nurse waive his full NMC? (and he won't unless it is a contender btw)

 

[Jumptheshark]

3) will Nurse waive his full NMC? (and he won't unless it is a contender btw)

and that is the other thing.

 

[Mr Positive]

and that is the other thing.

And imo it's why we should never discuss a Nurse trade. Not only is he on a contender, but the core of this team are his best friends. And imo we have seen elite play from Nurse before so the focus should be to rediscover that.

He has never been given a top 4 D partner to play with. We need to try that. Getting Nurse to play to his potential would be a much better outcome than trading him off for whatever garbage other teams would ship us. But yes, it's also our only option

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Nurse contract goes till 2030(I think) and TJs till 2028. It is a $$$$ thing. Pickard does not have much value and we are in love with Akey--but he has the shiny new toy thing. WE think he moves the dial on dumping Nurse.

Nurse has 64.75Mill left on his contract after this season and TJ has 16.125 left after this season. Meaning we have 48.625 swing in cap. We are looking at a cap situation. Most are looking at it from the oilers perspective and think other teams will do us favors. The Pens would send equal money back.



welcome to the oiler board--we like pissing into the wind on a cold and stormy nights

Sure, but the Pens are trying to be competitive forever, they aren't giving in, so Nurse fits that mold of just trying to keep holding on.

Of course Nurse would have to waive, but WE can explore that as much as we want.

Plus he gets to play with Sid and gets either Erik Karlsson or Kris Letang as a partner.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Sure, but the Pens are trying to be competitive forever, they aren't giving in, so Nurse fits that mold of just trying to keep holding on.

Of course Nurse would have to waive, but WE can explore that as much as we want.

Plus he gets to play with Sid and gets either Erik Karlsson or Kris Letang as a partner.

you are not addressing the $$$ and that is big part of the problem. Pens have Karlsson on 9.999 for 3 years after this one

And right now? Not many consider them a contender

 

[McTonyBrar]

I'm hoping that me and others were right about Nurse in that he just needs the right style of D partner for him to play well. Stecher seems like a very good fit even if overall he isn't that great.

As for Bouch and Ekholm I agree they are off, but I'm not worried about them. It's easy to over analyze a bad pattern so early in the year. But that cuts both ways and I'm not ready to say Nurse is back to the form that got him his contract

I hope we are both right. We’ve defended Nurse a lot lol

 

[GhostfaceWu]

We probably can't wait this long to do it, but Chicago has three pieces that would fit well here at the deadline:

To Chicago- O'Reilly, 2026 Oilers 1st, 2025 Blues 2nd
To Cap Broker- 2026 Oilers 3rd
To Edmonton- Murphy (50%), Hall (75%), Soderblom

$30K under Kane's available LTIR.

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Hall-Henrique-Brown
Janmark-Ryan-Perry

Ekholm-Bouch
Nurse-Murphy
Kulak-Emberson
Stecher/Dermott

Skinner
Pickard
Soderblom

This gives you a decent secondary goalie option if Skinner continues to struggle at Campbell-esque levels while shoring up the D. Hall also helps replace some of the speed we lost this off-season. Plus when Kane is healthy, we could look to reunite the Janmark/Henrique/Brown line that did so much damage in the ploffs:

Skinner-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Hall-RNH-Perry
Janmark-Henrique-Brown

No team can challenge us on that center depth and I'd say 1-6 our D would go from a weakness to a real strength. Just need the wingers to deliver for that to be a finalist again.

Absolute dog shit the oilers would be idiots to offer this

 

[McShogun99]

Absolute dog shit the oilers would be idiots to offer this

Oilers won’t be adding a LW with Kane coming back and O’Reilly is probably the teams most untouchable contract since he was a JJ pick.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Absolute dog shit the oilers would be idiots to offer this

Thanks for that nuanced analysis, great to see such thoughtful discussion.

 

[Jumptheshark]

We probably can't wait this long to do it, but Chicago has three pieces that would fit well here at the deadline:

To Chicago- O'Reilly, 2026 Oilers 1st, 2025 Blues 2nd
To Cap Broker- 2026 Oilers 3rd
To Edmonton- Murphy (50%), Hall (75%), Soderblom

$30K under Kane's available LTIR.

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Hall-Henrique-Brown
Janmark-Ryan-Perry

Ekholm-Bouch
Nurse-Murphy
Kulak-Emberson
Stecher/Dermott

Skinner
Pickard
Soderblom

This gives you a decent secondary goalie option if Skinner continues to struggle at Campbell-esque levels while shoring up the D. Hall also helps replace some of the speed we lost this off-season. Plus when Kane is healthy, we could look to reunite the Janmark/Henrique/Brown line that did so much damage in the ploffs:

Skinner-McDavid-Hyman
Kane-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Hall-RNH-Perry
Janmark-Henrique-Brown

No team can challenge us on that center depth and I'd say 1-6 our D would go from a weakness to a real strength. Just need the wingers to deliver for that to be a finalist again.

Okay--here is the first problem--we would have to make it the 2027 first. The conditions of the 2025 first rounder will be fun in any trade discussion.

Also.. the Hawks are looking to surround their kids with vets and that is the roll Hall is filling

Thanks for that nuanced analysis, great to see such thoughtful discussion.

we are giving up a lot of assets for very little return

 

[Senor Catface]

gang gang gang gang

You don't have any aspirations for the Oilers to win, that's a given I figured out a long time ago.

Gang gang

Congrats on using slang 13 year olds used a decade ago.

Can't wait to hear you say fire and slay soon.

 

[McTonyBrar]

What if Tristan Jarry got put on waivers?

 

[CycloneSweep]

I seem to recall you and I were pretty high on Kesselring early on.

I do believe we have something in Wanner and Akey if he can get back on track.

Yevseyev is intriguing as well if we can get him out of Russia.

Yevseyev still not being a full time KHL guy at 20 is worrying though.

 

[Jumptheshark]

And imo it's why we should never discuss a Nurse trade. Not only is he on a contender, but the core of this team are his best friends. And imo we have seen elite play from Nurse before so the focus should be to rediscover that.

He has never been given a top 4 D partner to play with. We need to try that. Getting Nurse to play to his potential would be a much better outcome than trading him off for whatever garbage other teams would ship us. But yes, it's also our only option

There is also another thing that makes Nurse untradable. 6mill in bonuses over the last 4 years of the contract. The last 3 years his base salary is 1.2 with a 6mill bonus each year

 

[McAsuno]

What if Tristan Jarry got put on waivers?

Yep, we need another struggling goalie who also works with Dustin Schwartz.

 

[Zerotonine]

Please God no. Jarry works with Dustin Schwartz.

Lol. Now it makes sense. Jarry fell off a cliff a few years ago lol. Coincidence?? Lolol

 

[yukoner88]

There is also another thing that makes Nurse untradable. 6mill in bonuses over the last 4 years of the contract. The last 3 years his base salary is 1.2 with a 6mill bonus each year

Once Nurse begins to really fall off and injuries become a thing, he'll be on LT-island

 

[Spawn]

With any Nurse trade there is always two questions I ask

1) Why is the other team doing it
2) Does the money Balance

we are in the cap world and number 2 will always be asked

And
3) does it make the Oilers better

Nurse for Graves and Jarry absolutely does not make the Oilers better.

 

[Zerotonine]

Acquiring a worse goalie that's injury prone is not the answer

Lolom Gibson worse then Skinner?

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Lolom Gibson worse then Skinner?

Is there anything you can present besides emojis to prove otherwise?

 

[Mr Positive]

There is also another thing that makes Nurse untradable. 6mill in bonuses over the last 4 years of the contract. The last 3 years his base salary is 1.2 with a 6mill bonus each year

I'm pretty bad with knowing that stuff but sure, I can see that as a negative.

But also, maybe Broberg was our chance to replace Nurse with another LD for the top 4 but now we don't have that. Even if Nurse is overpaid he can at least excel for stretches and eat up big minutes. I doubt we magically find the next Forsling, and any established LD we get will probably have a lot of "grass is greener" appeal. The new guy having to play with Dermott/Stecher/Emberson will turn plenty of Oiler fans against him

 

[Jumptheshark]

And
3) does it make the Oilers better

Nurse for Graves and Jarry absolutely does not make the Oilers better.

I agree 100%. Both contracts are as bad as Nurses. Both will be in the AHL this is my guess. The only reason to do the trade is buy them both out

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Anthony Stolarz would look like Dominick Hasek here compared to the 2 duds we have