I'm going to be honest, I don't think he's going to be here past his current contract. Joey Daccord also had way better numbers than Skinner last year (.916 save percentage for Daccord on a bad team vs .905 for Skinner on a good team).
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I'm going to be honest, I don't think he's going to be here past his current contract. Joey Daccord also had way better numbers than Skinner last year (.916 save percentage for Daccord on a bad team vs .905 for Skinner on a good team).
They did try in season and Holloway wanted to wait.
If they didn't have the stupid Brown bonus he would've been signed in June with Broberg.
The Oilers plan was to basically force Hollway and Broberg to both get "McLeod-ed" (McLeod was forced to take like 1 mill contract a couple of years ago late in the off-season).
You also need to understand when you make a Finals, all of the sudden all your role players are suddenly more valuable to other GMs.
This is not new. McLeod dealt with that before as an RFA and signed a reasonable deal. Then he got his raise. Was unable to stake a claim to 3C and was dealt.
"Burning up cap space" on two players that actually have a track record of contributing, and will be a massive upgrade on the revolving door of shitty second line wingers that caused us problems the entire year last year. Not to mention the space that was "burned" on an anchor 3rd line C that can contribute around 20 goals.
I would much, much, much rather "burn cap space" on two players that you can probably set a clock to contributing 50 goals between them than two band aids that haven't established themselves at all yet.
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I get it I know exactly what he was doing, but if you are going to blame Holland, Jackson really was the final nail in the coffin for their careers here.
He could've dealt them or choose to sign them, he didn't.
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This is correct.
See also: overpaying Nurse, buying out Neal, buying out Campbell. Death by a thousand cuts, as the Pringles mascot said.
They tried to force them to take pennies on the dollar deals and it blew up in their faces.
Frankly both Holland and JJ wear this egg on their face.
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Didn't Holland essentially bridge Nurse so he could overpay Zack Kassian too to play like 5 good games for the Oilers after that?
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So 4.8 accrued at the deadline, but really that could be as much as 9+ million in players if the team sending the player out retains 50% (which generally happens a lot at the deadline).
Not terribly hard to see why the Oilers wanted to have this flexibility.
If Kane is a goner till the playoffs too, they're going to have a shit ton of cap room at the deadline.
Imagine being mad about the team making these signings.
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Totally, it will allow them tremendous flexibility, the hard part will be Kane coming back or "that guy" become available before the deadline.
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When it comes to “that guy” they need to be willing to pay a big price imo. 2 1sts, maybe extras. If that’s what it takes, do it. Nobody is missing Bourgault or Schaefer, get a real player and win this thing.
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Exactly. I sum this up as Holloway doing a dumb get paid more now move that blew up in his face, while Broberg had his own agenda the whole time. We can blame the Oilers Management all we want, but if they wouldn't re-sign when we tried to do it, how is that the Managements fault? In the end, it's over and people who want to keep hashing it out should make their own thread or post in that other stupid thread where all the bitchy whiny people go to (forgot what it's called because I ignored it and 99% of the people there are ignored too by me so goes to show how irrelevant that thread is).
I wonder if Vegas becomes a target to pick up a D man.
IMO they are ripe for a standings collapse. If that happens I wonder if they would consider moving on from a Hague or a Theodore (dream world) to clear some cap space on D and pick up some assets.
Theodore, Hague, and Pionk are targets of mine that currently belong to teams that are supposed to be playoff teams, but I think are just as likely to go the other direction.
IMO they are ripe for a standings collapse. If that happens I wonder if they would consider moving on from a Hague or a Theodore (dream world) to clear some cap space on D and pick up some assets.
Theodore, Hague, and Pionk are targets of mine that currently belong to teams that are supposed to be playoff teams, but I think are just as likely to go the other direction.
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I'm going to be honest, I don't think he's going to be here past his current contract. Joey Daccord also had way better numbers than Skinner last year (.916 save percentage for Daccord on a bad team vs .905 for Skinner on a good team).
Miko Koskinen was more proven when he got his contract on a worse team. That contract still sucked.
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I totally agree, just pointing out that might throw a wrench in things.
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Great that we got him back, but a bit of a reality check for Oiler fans thinking that he was ready to be on the roster of a championship calibre team when 31 other teams didn’t think he was NHL ready. Hopefully he goes to Bake with a good attitude and we see him up here at some point this year.
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Nice! He’s definitely getting NHL games this year, so it’s nice to regain the depth.
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Nice. Hopefully he has a nice push to start the season and gets himself back in the conversation for a call up.
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Jimmi McJenkins
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I think he might have had a chance to stick if he didn't get hurt in the latter part of camp.
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