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Yeah, don't see why they don't. The cap is there, no?
Oilers management loves trying to be the smartest person in the room and not doing the obvious thing.
Yeah, don't see why they don't. The cap is there, no?
Bouch at minimum is an elite offensive defenseman. Playing him with Nurse could really send his game spiraling. If Ekholm got hurt I'd pair him with Kulak first.I almost want Bouchard/Nurse for a chunk, just to see how far Bouchard has come, because if Bouchard can only play well with Ekholm, wouldn't the Oilers want to know now, before they lock him to an 8 year deal @ 10 million per plus?? Imagine having 2 Dmen locked up long term, both north of 9 million per, that can't anchor their own D pairing, that would be SO BAD, looking like Nurse might not even be a 2nd pairing guy now, if that's the case, they cannot afford to be wrong about Bouchard too.
He shit the bed every single pre-season. Good for him for doing well but we couldn't afford a mini-Nurse contract if he took a step backwards.Broberg another assist tonight. Watching him play.... And how good he is all over the ice makes me question what the flying f*** Oilers management were thinking when they played Vinny over Broberg last year until the playoffs
He shit the bed every single pre-season. Good for him for doing well but we couldn't afford a mini-Nurse contract if he took a step backwards.
I agree, he's definitely elite offensively, but if he requires a Ekholm level partner to be that 5on5, they need to know that before they pay him top 5 Dman in world money. If he needs a stud like Ek as a partner, then he isn't worth 10 million per plus, imo. If he can do it with Kulak, then he deserves it.Bouch at minimum is an elite offensive defenseman. Playing him with Nurse could really send his game spiraling. If Ekholm got hurt I'd pair him with Kulak first.
No. It will be obvious when we get him someone good to play with and he looks bad still. Until then it will always be unknown.It's becoming clear Nurse will sewer any pairing he's on. It wouldn't have mattered at all who his partner was last night, he still makes those braindead plays all on his own.
$10 million isn't what it used to be. The cap is going up and so will the AAV's for the top players at every position in the league.I agree, he's definitely elite offensively, but if he requires a Ekholm level partner to be that 5on5, they need to know that before they pay him top 5 Dman in world money. If he needs a stud like Ek as a partner, then he isn't worth 10 million per plus, imo. If he can do it with Kulak, then he deserves it.
He makes 9M. He should be the good one on his pairing.No. It will be obvious when we get him someone good to play with and he looks bad still. Until then it will always be unknown.
Even if he looks bad in isolation now, that still doesn't prove. Having a bottom pair D in a top 4 role can make his partner develop bad habits, just like how a poor D can breed bad habits in a goalie
Sure I can agree there. But it's a dysfunctional situation to put any player in. He should be playing with a top 4 Dman. Bouchard looked like crap before he was stapled to Ekholm too.He makes 9M. He should be the good one on his pairing.
I almost want Bouchard/Nurse for a chunk, just to see how far Bouchard has come, because if Bouchard can only play well with Ekholm, wouldn't the Oilers want to know now, before they lock him to an 8 year deal @ 10 million per plus?? Imagine having 2 Dmen locked up long term, both north of 9 million per, that can't anchor their own D pairing, that would be SO BAD, looking like Nurse might not even be a 2nd pairing guy now, if that's the case, they cannot afford to be wrong about Bouchard too.
Cody Ceci just went full Cody Ceci for the Sharks. Ahh the memories.
But we would have lost 5-0 instead of 6-0 with him in the lineup, maybe.
He passed the puck from the slot and went off for a change before the goal was scored. minimal impact on that goal. 4 sharks were behind the play and the ice was wide open. A Jr player makes that play.Broberg another assist tonight. Watching him play.... And how good he is all over the ice makes me question what the flying f*** Oilers management were thinking when they played Vinny over Broberg last year until the playoffs
Nurse’ cap hit prohibits the team from getting him a great partner. Everything he’s going through right now is of his own doing.Sure I can agree there. But it's a dysfunctional situation to put any player in. He should be playing with a top 4 Dman. Bouchard looked like crap before he was stapled to Ekholm too.
Also what high paid Dman carries a bottom pair guy? It's not like Makar plays with a Ceci or Emberson (not that Nurse is as good as him). In general teams will stack odds in favor of a player if they want success, not against them
Yes. There's so few RD going to be available. I don't want it to be true either, but it could happen. Our best bet is probably a guy like Jan Ruuta from the Sharks. And I'm not sure if he's better than Ceci. He's literally never played for a decent team, ha ha.Maybe, but I still doubt it, because they know the Oilers are going to claim their player back, I feel it has to be a team that just tried to f*** with the Oilers.
No, just no.
Yes. There's so few RD going to be available. I don't want it to be true either, but it could happen. Our best bet is probably a guy like Jan Ruuta from the Sharks. And I'm not sure if he's better than Ceci. He's literally never played for a decent team, ha ha.
All the teams had the chance, both times. The HF echo chamber has just inflated his perceived value. I know he can score, but he'd need to score thirty, because of the rest of his game. He lacks consistent effort without the puck, and he isn't very good on the wall, soft even, nobody here talks about that, but it's not how you win an NHL job.I hope some team pick up Lavoie and keep him for good. This is getting insulting to Lavoie at this point
Whatever amount Nurse is overpaid by, it's not close to the amount of cap and assets we spent or wasted bolstering other parts of the lineup. Besides, I don't see the point of the blame game here while it doesn't accomplish anything. The interesting topic is how we make the team work within what is possibleNurse’ cap hit prohibits the team from getting him a great partner. Everything he’s going through right now is of his own doing.
Well, he nearly backstopped them to one last season so not sure how you can say that with such certainty.Said it before, saying it again and yes it is a hill I am prepared to die on. S. Skinner is not the guy who will backstop this team to a championship. You can’t rely on hoping to get “good skinner” on a game to game basis. The defense has holes too and it’s another vortex of mystery. We’ll see what kind of patience Bowman has and what he does to manage the cap.
Whatever amount Nurse is overpaid by, it's not close to the amount of cap and assets we spent or wasted bolstering other parts of the lineup. Besides, I don't see the point of the blame game here while it doesn't accomplish anything. The interesting topic is how we make the team work within what is possible
Excellent points. Hope he does get a chance at the NHL though, all this waiver and AHL yo-yoing can't be good for a young player.All the teams had the chance, both times. The HF echo chamber has just inflated his perceived value. I know he can score, but he'd need to score thirty, because of the rest of his game. He lacks consistent effort without the puck, and he isn't very good on the wall, soft even, nobody here talks about that, but it's not how you win an NHL job.
Watch how Philp will acquire opportunity, they won't hold him back, because he plays the right way.
Shhhh he doesn’t want context.He passed the puck from the slot and went off for a change before the goal was scored. minimal impact on that goal. 4 sharks were behind the play and the ice was wide open. A Jr player makes that play.