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[CanadasTeam99]

HFOilers eying Blackwood

Give me Blackwood please. Throw them SKinner if they will take him

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Because Jiricek is better.

Not really.

 

[Scrapin Ice]

Why is Columbus trading Jiricek?

I know nothing about the guy except he was a high first rounder.

He wants to play now. He is not ready! His skating and some fine tuning defensively are identified problems. Likely his agent is pushing for him to play and Columbus is pushing back.

 

[McTonyBrar]

According to Chris Johnston, Columbus was looking at acquiring a great prospect for David Jiricek. But, it sounds like they are shifting gears towards draft picks

 

[Scrapin Ice]

Perhaps an interesting comparison would be Dustin Wolf, whose about the same size at 6'0 166 lbs and also 24.

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Obviously Rodriguez starts are not quite as good, but you know what, maybe there actually is a player there.

The other interesting comparison I think would be Skinner himself, honestly, who had sightly worse stats at the same age with a better condors team when he graduated.

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Olivier didn't exactly inspire confidence in the preseason though, tbh.

Olivier has been slow to learn. Watch 5 or 6 games in a row and you will see (and learn not to compare him with Dustin Wolf).

 

[McTonyBrar]

You'd give a top 2 centre for a prospect?..

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

You'd give a top 2 centre for a prospect?..

In what world does the wild do that?

 

[Canovin]

You'd give a top 2 centre for a prospect?..

No way it's Rossi. Probably 2026 1st and a sweetener

 

[McTonyBrar]

For what reason do they even need Jiricek? Their defence is pretty damn good. With Faber and Spurgeon, Jiricek will be bottom pair which is where he already is with CBJ lmao

 

[iCanada]

Olivier has been slow to learn. Watch 5 or 6 games in a row and you will see (and learn not to compare him with Dustin Wolf).

Yeah fair enough. I mean Wolf is looking like the high water mark at this point and if he gets there you're laughing all the way to the finals.

I don't expect him to be like Wolf - just was trying to give an idea of what best case translation looks like.

Rodrigues numbers do look closer to Skinner's though, I'll say.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

No way it's Rossi. Probably 2026 1st and a sweetener

Agreed, if they're trading Rossi, the Wild are looking at Kreider imo.

 

[Oilhawks]

So… Yer a Czech didn’t move “in the evening or this morning”

Yawn

 

[McTonyBrar]

So… Yer a Czech didn’t move “in the evening or this morning”

Yawn

Lets go egg Seravalli's house

 

[Canovin]

Jiricek would be a nice insurance in case Bouchard is firm on 11M. I would still trade for someone like Marcus Petteron or Rasmus Andersson

 

[McDoused]

My concern about Jiricek is that he's going to be paired with Nurse. Nurse seems to do well with guys that can skate well and move the puck. Ideally, he would play with someone like Shea Theodore but I dont see that type of player available. If that's not possible, he has done well with Kulk as his partner who still skates well but is more of a two way guy who is steady defensively but has untapped offence. I'm not sure Jiricek sounds like either of those types of players.

 

[K1984]

Jiricek would be a nice insurance in case Bouchard is firm on 11M. I would still trade for someone like Marcus Petteron or Rasmus Andersson

Unless Bouchard stops playing like shit now and actually plays like an $11M player the rest of the way he doesn't get to be firm on $11M. If he keeps playing like this he isn't getting that from anyone even if we move him.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Unless Bouchard stops playing like shit now and actually plays like an $11M player the rest of the way he doesn't get to be firm on $11M. If he keeps playing like this he isn't getting that from anyone even if we move him.

He's on pace for ~60 points and is top ten league wide analytically by virtually every category. He's not playing like shit. He's not playing at the level he was last year yet, but ECHL goaltending behind him certainly isn't helping anything.

 

[K1984]

He's on pace for ~60 points and is top ten league wide analytically by virtually every category. He's not playing like shit. He's not playing at the level he was last year yet, but ECHL goaltending behind him certainly isn't helping anything.

He's playing like shit. The power play has gone to shit and he is a big part of that. You can choose to ignore the constant 10 bell f*** ups that occur for no real reason other than laziness if you want, but I won't.

I have all the time in the world for analytics, but sometimes they don't tell the whole story. He's like the rest of the team - doesn't show up until at least December so I'm confident that he'll get back in gear, but as of now, he's playing like shit.

 

[iCanada]

He's on pace for ~60 points and is top ten league wide analytically by virtually every category. He's not playing like shit. He's not playing at the level he was last year yet, but ECHL goaltending behind him certainly isn't helping anything.

I mean, he's got one analytic stat that jumps out to me - on ice save percentage at .8736.



But again I don't really think that's on him.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

He's playing like shit. The power play has gone to shit and he is a big part of that. You can choose to ignore the constant 10 bell f*** ups that occur for no real reason other than laziness if you want, but I won't.

I have all the time in the world for analytics, but sometimes they don't tell the whole story. He's like the rest of the team - doesn't show up until at least December so I'm confident that he'll get back in gear, but as of now, he's playing like shit.

Based on what, your say so?

The analytics do a much better job capturing what's going on than the average ding dong that only actually pays attention five minutes a period. Bouchard is a high event player that creates a ton more than he gives up.

People call Draisaitl lazy too, and they're every bit as stupid as the ones that call Bouchard lazy.

 

[K1984]

Based on what, your say so?

The analytics do a much better job capturing what's going on than the average ding dong that only actually pays attention five minutes a period. Bouchard is a high event player that creates a ton more than he gives up.

People call Draisaitl lazy too, and they're every bit as stupid as the ones that call Bouchard lazy.

You can pretend that Bouchard was working his bag off for each of his airhead mistakes over the past few weeks, but it's pretty obvious that isn't and hasn't been the case. Leon has been lazy at times also over his career.

Believe it or not it is possible to recognize a player's ability and talent level in a macro sense, but be frustrated with them when certain players take games or weeks off.

I just said that I fully expect Bouchard to find defensive and offensive consistency again (like he has every year despite being ass to start the season), but it the mean time the record levels of blocked shots, the constant missing the net with shots that do get through, the nonchalance and stupidity with the puck at the offensive blue line, the nonchalance recognizing danger off the rush, and the nonchalance in front of his own net have been problems this year.

You can pretend that this is all just not happening because you like the look of the analytics chart, but it is. He needs to fix a bunch of these things to get back on track where he ended last season.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

You can pretend that Bouchard was working his bag off for each of his airhead mistakes over the past few weeks, but it's pretty obvious that isn't and hasn't been the case. Leon has been lazy at times also.

Believe it or not it is possible to recognize a player's ability and talent level in a macro sense, but be frustrated with them when certain players take games or weeks off.

I just said that I fully expect Bouchard to find defensive and offensive consistency again (like he has every year despite being ass to start the season), but it the mean time the record levels of blocked shots, the constant missing the net with shots that do get through, the nonchalance and stupidity with the puck at the offensive blue line, the nonchalance recognizing danger off the rush, and the nonchalance in front of his own net have been problems this year.

You can pretend that this is all just not happening because you like the look of the analytics chart, but it is. He needs to fix a bunch of these things to get back on track where he ended last season.

I trust the analytics far more than the overemotional fan pounding the armrest of their chair and throwing beer cans because he thinks an NHL player that's playing 26 minutes a night should be pumping their legs at all times.

You want to know why Bouchard is getting shots blocked? Because other teams coaches are recognizing the weapon for what it is and game planning around it. That takes adjustment for a young player, which is what Bouchard still is. Still, hilariously, despite mouth breathers thinking that he's been terrible and not getting shots through, he's pacing for a career high in goals.

He's still playing well, still producing, still has great underlying numbers. That's more than I can say for some members of this team, but there are members of this fanbase that hate every defenceman with an iota of creativity and offense in their game. That type of fan deserved the Kris Russell years.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I mean, he's got one analytic stat that jumps out to me - on ice save percentage at .8736.



But again I don't really think that's on him.

his on-ice save % is so low cause he gives up massive Grade AAA chances like he did against Toronto

I love Bouch, but he needs to cut that shit out

 

[ChaoticOrange]

by the way

The analytics say that Bouchard has arguably been the best defenceman in the NHL so far this year

Random goober on HFBoards says he's shit

I don't think either statement is accurate...but I'm leaning towards the one that has actual evidence.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

One great thing about McDrai, is that they are great when they are going. They also inflate everybody's stats, etc up that they play with.