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[CanadasTeam99]

Dostal has been goalieing us for years. We were one his first nhl wins I believe. I certainly. Remember 2-3 years ago playing him and he stole the f***ing show.


Terrible argument. Skinner was 2 goals away from winning the cup. Would you say the same about him if the oilers managed to score 2 more goals last year?

If we won the cup I would say the exact same thing lol. Get rid of him. After watching him for two years and his numbers.

Who gives a shit if he was on a team that almost won. He wasn't why. Why is this so hard for people to grasp? You have to look at the goalie in a vacuum. He sucks. End of story.

That's like pumping up a #7 Dman on a team who almost won a cup

 

[soothsayer]

Okay, but they could've scored more. They scored 18 goals in the previous 3 games. Even if Skinner didn't let in the second one the Oilers still would've had to score a second goal regardless.

He can't be trusted to not let in a muffin shot in a 1-1 stanley cup final game 7. The Oilers dragged themselves back from the dead to get to that point, and Skinner let in that stinker. If the Oilers are this year's 2022 Colorado Avalanche, then I'm not worried about Skinner. But they're not, so the need a guy who can be trusted to not let in another routine muffin literally in the most important game you can imagine.

 

[Canovin]

It’s one good series now? He won Vancouver for us after a bad start and he was great in the finals. Pretty sure he was good against LA as well.

We lost to the cup winners the last 3 years.

You got to be kidding? Skinner was the reason the Oilers were dead tired by the finals.

I get it, they couldn't score including McDavid and Drai cause they were dead tired from the Vancouver series

 

[CanadasTeam99]

If it weren't for Skinner the Oilers would have lost to the Kings? lol, what? In 3 of the 5 games against the Kings, he had a sub-900 save %, one of which being .808. And in the three games starting against Florida, he couldn't put up a save % above .900. In the Stanley Cup Finals.

It's a miracle the Oilers were able to come back from that hole and bring it to game 7. Sure, he had two good games after that, but he already sewered his performance. And that is classic Skinner. He will play like an AHL goalie for stretches, and then have a good game or two and some people think that's proof he's a good starting goalie.

People simpin for skinner about playoffs probably would say "Hey, but Jason Caffey took the bulls to the championship!"

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

He can't be trusted to not let in a muffin shot in a 1-1 stanley cup final game 7. The Oilers dragged themselves back from the dead to get to that point, and Skinner let in that stinker. If the Oilers are this year's 2022 Colorado Avalanche, then I'm not worried about Skinner. But they're not, so the need a guy who can be trusted to not let in another routine muffin literally in the most important game you can imagine.

So Skinner doesn't let in that goal... Then what? Do the Oilers magically win the game 1-1?

You got to be kidding? Skinner was the reason the Oilers were dead tired by the finals.

Based on what, exactly?

 

[iCanada]

You got to be kidding? Skinner was the reason the Oilers were dead tired by the finals.

I keep saying it, but I'll say it again; 20% more games played and 20% less days off because we posted the lowest save percentage in a winning playoffs series since 1975.

That's a massive difference in cumulative fatigue in what is the war of attrition we call the Stanley Cup playoffs.

 

[Cloned]

The Oilers have plenty of fans who think the organization is well run.

I doubt it lol

 

[VeteranPresence]

How is someone legitimately stanning for Stuart Skinner after the last two years? Really?

 

[soothsayer]

So Skinner doesn't let in that goal... Then what? Do the Oilers magically win the game 1-1?


Based on what, exactly?

If Skinner doesn't let in that goal then the Oilers don't lose the Stanley Cup on the back of a muffin that Skinner regularly lets in.

 

[iCanada]

How is someone legitimately stanning for Stuart Skinner after the last two years? Really?

Listen man, he looks so cool in that closet commercial, and the mustache, damn.

That man even plays Mario Kart!

 

[CanadasTeam99]

There's a difference between thinking Skinner is a problem and thinking he's the ONLY problem. He needs to be better, nobody would argue otherwise. But the team is still not getting enough offense up front, their power play is middling (something Skinner has absolutely nothing to do with), and frankly their efforts aren't inspiring.

I'm also not going to blame him for the overall organizational incompetence when it comes to goaltending, something that's been a problem long before he arrived and will likely persist long after he's gone.

The difference in the grand scheme of this is whether people think he can be a solution....

Nope. He can't. That's it.

 

[Heavy Dee]

I won't stop posting this stuff.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

If Skinner doesn't let in that goal then the Oilers don't lose the Stanley Cup on the back of a muffin that Skinner regularly lets in.

But they still have to score goal #2 either way. They did not. They had 60 minutes to score more than once. They did not. Only if Skinner pitches a shutout do they win.

The difference in the grand scheme of this is whether people think he can be a solution....

Nope. He can't. That's it.

Well I certainly don't trust the org that hasn't had a viable goaltending solution since the days of Cujo to fix it.

 

[FiveFourteenSixOne]

You got to be kidding? Skinner was the reason the Oilers were dead tired by the finals.

With competent goaltending the Oilers would have dispatched the Canucks in 5 games, and had more in the tank for the SCF.

Instead, Skinner did everything in his power to give the series away.

There's not a single series in which he's played that one could say Skinner is the REASON they won. Just because he was better than Oetter in round 3, doesn't mean he was a positive factor in the series win. He just wasn't a detriment. Not being a detriment should be the minimum f***ing bar for a NHL goalie. Instead, he was a negative factor in three of the four series this season, and BOTH series two years ago. If the Oilers had gotten even mediocre goaltending against VGK they would have walked their way to the Stanley Cup. That was a phenomenal team, with absolutely shit goaltending.

 

[iCanada]

But they still have to score goal #2 either way. They did not. They had 60 minutes to score more than once. They did not. Only if Skinner pitches a shutout do they win.


Well I certainly don't trust the org that hasn't had a viable goaltending solution since the days of Cujo to fix it.

It's a lot easier to score #2 when it's 1-1 and the other team is taking offensive risks then when it's 2-1 and the other team has parked the bus.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

But they still have to score goal #2 either way. They did not. They had 60 minutes to score more than once. They did not. Only if Skinner pitches a shutout do they win.


Well I certainly don't trust the org that hasn't had a viable goaltending solution since the days of Cujo to fix it.

So just sit around then and protect skinner at all costs. Do nothing?

Might as well fold the season then.

 

[Oilslick941611]

If we won the cup I would say the exact same thing lol. Get rid of him. After watching him for two years and his numbers.

Who gives a shit if he was on a team that almost won. He wasn't why. Why is this so hard for people to grasp? You have to look at the goalie in a vacuum. He sucks. End of story.

That's like pumping up a #7 Dman on a team who almost won a cup

I’m just making sure you were being sincere that’s all. Some people think winning a cup covers all the warts. Even if the cup was win a lucky bounce or by the hair of their teeth.

Personally i think skinner needs to sit or be sent to the AHL and we see what we have with rodrigue and then make a decision on trading or not.

 

[Canovin]

So Skinner doesn't let in that goal... Then what? Do the Oilers magically win the game 1-1?


Based on what, exactly?

Have you not watch the Vancouver series? The Oilers breezed thru LA in 5 games with Stuart trying to tank the series. Skinner did an even worse job against Vancouver. We almost got eliminated by them when it was a nothing series and Stuart turn it into something else

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I won't stop posting this stuff.

You will get one response to this and in a few games its been true

"High danger chances are not all equal"

That is true, but when a team can keep them low mostly all year, you're goalie should be much better

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

With competent goaltending the Oilers would have dispatched the Canucks in 5 games, and had more in the tank for the SCF.

Instead, Skinner did everything in his power to give the series away.

There's not a single series in which he's played that one could say Skinner is the REASON they won. Just because he was better than Oetter in round 3, doesn't mean he was a positive factor in the series win. He just wasn't a detriment. Not being a detriment should be the minimum f***ing bar for a NHL goalie. Instead, he was a negative factor in three of the four series this season, and BOTH series two years ago. If the Oilers had gotten even mediocre goaltending against VGK they would have walked their way to the Stanley Cup. That was a phenomenal team, with absolutely shit goaltending.

Lmao. This is absolute nonsense and you know it. He bested one of the best goalies in the league and kept a high powered Dallas team at bay, including absolutely stealing the series winning game. And people still shit on him for it. This is straight up Canucks-level delusion.

 

[soothsayer]

But they still have to score goal #2 either way. They did not. They had 60 minutes to score more than once. They did not. Only if Skinner pitches a shutout do they win.


Well I certainly don't trust the org that hasn't had a viable goaltending solution since the days of Cujo to fix it.

Yes, and they could have grinded out a second goal, like you might expect they would have needed to do in game 7 of the final. Just like you would have expected Florida to have to grind out their game-winning goal. But Florida didn't have to, of course.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Have you not watch the Vancouver series? The Oilers breezed thru LA in 5 games with Stuart trying to tank the series. Skinner did an even worse job against Vancouver. We almost got eliminated by them when it was a nothing series and Stuart turn it into something else

Meanwhile the random at the other end was stoning us left and right at shots where we actually were picking corners

Stuart was letting in goals from the half wall along the ice lol. His backup pickard had to come in and stabilize us

 

[Zerotonine]

Nope not once. Lets see what he says today

That's scary to think he hasn't mentioned it once. Esp when Skinner is statistically the worst goalie this year by a large margin

 

[Canovin]

Lmao. This is absolute nonsense and you know it. He bested one of the best goalies in the league and kept a high powered Dallas team at bay, including absolutely stealing the series winning game. And people still shit on him for it. This is straight up Canucks-level delusion.

Just shows you how good of a team the Oilers were. They gave nothing to Dallas and made Stuart look great. Imagine the Oilers last season with a competent goalie

 

[iCanada]

Meanwhile the random at the other end was stoning us left and right at shots where we actually were picking corners

Stuart was letting in goals from the half wall along the ice lol. His backup pickard had to come in and stabilize us

Hey man, sometimes a sniper like uhh.... Zadorov is just going to beat you no matter how bad the angle is.