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[TopShelfGloveSide]

His recent press junket of “not caring” about his stats looks extra hilarious now. If he cared at all about his craft he’d tell the team he needs time away to rebuild his game with someone that isn’t Dustin Schwartz, which would force Bowman to at least do something.

Instead though Stu is going to continue insisting it’s bad luck and that he’s super duper good at what he does.

He does care otherwise he wouldn’t have had a temper tantrum when a goal got scored on him in garbage time.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

@OilerTitanFan ”What's with the title Taylor vs Tyler? That lost me. I was thinking Hall vs Seguin.”

I thought it was rather obvious….also pictures were included….

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Whilst I 100% agree that Schwarz's tenure with the Oilers is far past its expiration date, the premise that individual skill as a player is relevant to skill as a coach just doesn't hold water. If that were true, Wayne Gretzky should have been the greatest coach in the history of the NHL and coaches like Paul Maurice or Barry Trotz would be relegated to coaching pee-wee.

I get that skill doesn’t equate to teaching/coaching, that has been proven over and over in multiple leagues.

Schwartz never playing at a pro level is where I’d have trouble taking him seriously, especially when the results are proven over and over goalies get worse under him. Smith clearly thought he was a dunce, got his own guy and his numbers got better. Guys like Trotz and Maurice worked their way up through the ranks, Schwartz was with the Oil Kings for 4 years and jumped to the NHL.

 

[Fourier]

I get that skill doesn’t equate to teaching/coaching, that has been proven over and over in multiple leagues.

Schwartz never playing at a pro level is where I’d have trouble taking him seriously, especially when the results are proven over and over goalies get worse under him. Smith clearly thought he was a dunce, got his own guy and his numbers got better. Guys like Trotz and Maurice worked their way up through the ranks, Schwartz was with the Oil Kings for 4 years and jumped to the NHL.

I don't think that whether he played pro or not is a big issue. The real question is: Is their any evidence that he has a positive influence on the players he coaches? Truthfully, I don't really know squat about goaltending but from a naive perspective results don't seem to suggest that his tenure is justified.

 

[McTonyBrar]

I think it is time to call up Olivier Rodrigue. He is proving he is ready to be tested in NHL hockey. He has 2.33 GAA and a 0.929 save percentage. This would send a message to Stuart Skinner. It may also help them realize that maybe they have a good goaltender just waiting

The immediate upgrade available right now is simply making Pickard the starter.

Rodrigue was trash in pre-season but goalies are voodoo so I wouldn't be opposed to finally giving him a shot... but the Oilers organization has historically been so stingy when it comes to giving their own G prospects a shot. They would rather go with repeated bandaid fixes

Lol how does preseason define a player fully? McDavid and Leon were trash in preseason were theynot?

 

[McHelpus]

I think it is time to call up Olivier Rodrigue. He is proving he is ready to be tested in NHL hockey. He has 2.33 GAA and a 0.929 save percentage. This would send a message to Stuart Skinner. It may also help them realize that maybe they have a good goaltender just waiting

Silovs has a .920 in the AHL and a .850% in the NHL this season. It's really a different animal getting called up to play, wasn't Rodrigue also really bad during the preseason?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I think it is time to call up Olivier Rodrigue. He is proving he is ready to be tested in NHL hockey. He has 2.33 GAA and a 0.929 save percentage. This would send a message to Stuart Skinner. It may also help them realize that maybe they have a good goaltender just waiting


Lol how does preseason define a player fully? McDavid and Leon were trash in preseason were theynot?

You understand there’s a difference between AHLers trying to make the team and NHLers who have a spot locked down no matter how hard they play

 

[GMofOilers]

The cap could be 110M by the time Mcdavids contract kicks in.

Thats nice to see, it should be 97M next year

 

[VeteranPresence]

Silovs has a .920 in the AHL and a .850% in the NHL this season. It's really a different animal getting called up to play, wasn't Rodrigue also really bad during the preseason?

He was, but in the last 24 hours we have seen Skinner hit a new rock bottom geologists didn’t know existed previously. We need to try anything else at this point, and I can see the argument for giving the internal guy a look before a trade. Just make a f***ing move, Bowman.

 

[FunkyChicken]

Bouchard won’t cost anywhere near the $10M Stauffer was projecting either. At the rate of his current brain dead play this year he will be lucky to get $7M.

Doesn't deserve more than Fox, McAvoy, Makar or even Seider ($8.55M).
I get they were signed different years, but that should be an easy cap.
We are all pissed off at him today, but he's still a very effective player.

 

[Heavy Dee]

I wonder if something like Skinner for Varlamov might interest Lou? They basically have the same contract. Varlamov having an off year but a career 916%.

 

[McHelpus]

I wonder if something like Skinner for Varlamov might interest Lou? They basically have the same contract. Varlamov having an off year but a career 916%.

I remember one year we really wanted Varlamov but the islanders refused because Sorokin needed him around. Not sure if that is still the case, but the they've had the same goalie tandem for 5 years.

 

[soothsayer]

I wonder if something like Skinner for Varlamov might interest Lou? They basically have the same contract. Varlamov having an off year but a career 916%.

Varlamov didnt want to come to Edmonton before. Maybe that's changed now but I would be surprised.

Anyways, this Skinner thing has gone on long enough. And I'm tired of some people pretending that he led the team to game 7 of the Stanley Cup rather than lost them the championship (maybe even 2).

 

[La Bamba]

Lol how does preseason define a player fully? McDavid and Leon were trash in preseason were theynot?

you gotta work on your reading comprehension, i think it would take a max of 2 brain cells to understand that I agree with giving Rodrigue a shot

 

[McDNicks17]

The Red Wings just put Campbell on waivers.

It’s time to do the funniest thing ever.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858224360240386540

 

[McShogun99]

If Nashville starts selling you you have to go all in on Suros with the cap expected to really rise next season. Skinner++ for Suros at the deadline. I fully believe that if we had an elite goalie we win the last 2 Cups.

 

[McHelpus]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858224360240386540

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

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Let those intrusive thoughts win

 

[VeteranPresence]

I wonder if something like Skinner for Varlamov might interest Lou? They basically have the same contract. Varlamov having an off year but a career 916%.

I believe Varlamov and his family like the large Russian community in the New York area too much to consider moving but I might be wrong on that.

 

[McTonyBrar]

you gotta work on your reading comprehension, i think it would take a max of 2 brain cells to understand that I agree with giving Rodrigue a shot

Oh shit my bad man. I should've read the whole post. Sorry

You understand there’s a difference between AHLers trying to make the team and NHLers who have a spot locked down no matter how hard they play

Yes I do. Goalies take longer to develop and Rodrigue hasn't played a single NHL game yet so how is he just an AHLer? Where is the proof he isn't good in the NHL?

He's gotten better each year he's been in the AHL

 

[guymez]

Doesn't deserve more than Fox, McAvoy, Makar or even Seider ($8.55M).
I get they were signed different years, but that should be an easy cap.
We are all pissed off at him today, but he's still a very effective player.

Bouchard is a fine offensive dman (especially on the PP) but he is no Makar.
He shouldnt be in that range at all.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Silovs has a .920 in the AHL and a .850% in the NHL this season. It's really a different animal getting called up to play, wasn't Rodrigue also really bad during the preseason?

But is there really any harm in trying? We're last place in goaltending. Even if Rodrigue does not work, maybe it'll spark something inside Skinner

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Oh shit my bad man. I should've read the whole post. Sorry


Yes I do. Goalies take longer to develop and Rodrigue hasn't played a single NHL game yet so how is he just an AHLer? Where is the proof he isn't good in the NHL?

He's gotten better each year he's been in the AHL

For the record, I agree he should be given a shot. Just judging completely off pre season isn’t why.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Doesn't deserve more than Fox, McAvoy, Makar or even Seider ($8.55M).
I get they were signed different years, but that should be an easy cap.
We are all pissed off at him today, but he's still a very effective player.

I am not saying he isnt effective, but his defensive lapses are egregious right now.