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Oilers Biggest Roster Need?

  • 2nd Pairing RD

    Votes: 96 40.3%

  • Starting Goalie

    Votes: 133 55.9%

  • Top 6 LW (RNH, Podkolzin and Jeff Skinner Aren't Getting it Done)

    Votes: 3 1.3%

  • Top 6 RW (Arvidsson and Hyman Aren't Getting it Done)

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • 3C

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Physical Bottom 6 Wingers

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Other (Post Your Opinion)

    Votes: 4 1.7%
  • Total voters
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Sheikyerbouti said:
Tampa Bay not so evil now imo. How different are the Bolts' results this year if they kept Stamkos?

This offseason showed the bolts have best in slot management. They gave zero f***s about anything other than winning
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The way it should be. Who gives a flying f*** these days if a guy stays with one team his whole career. You paid the man millions. You owe him nothing because it's a business. Tampa is smart. Most idiot GM's would have kept him and paid him big.
 
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McHelpus said:
Jonathan Marchessault please, Bring him in just so he can destroy vegas.
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Would be tempting to swap him for say Arvidsson but man that contract is long for someone his age.

5 goals this year isn't good either though I think some of that is a snowball effect in Nashville of a "everything that could go wrong is going wrong" type thing.
 
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Watching the Knights just casually defend us all game with their size and length. Watching them do it again against Anaheim. Barely breaking a sweat. Makes me thing we need to get bigger. Ideally the entire lineup, but I’ll settle atleast for trees on the backend as long as they have ability.
 
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TheNumber4 said:
Watching the Knights just casually defend us all game with their size and length. Watching them do it again against Anaheim. Barely breaking a sweat. Makes me thing we need to get bigger. Ideally the entire lineup, but I’ll settle atleast for trees on the backend as long as they have ability.
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Wow are you ever late to the party.
 
Jumptheshark said:
Then he is an idiot over his head.

Any RFA not signed by August 1st and there has been no headway on a new contract is prime for an offer sheet.

Lets looks at the facts.

August 20th both Holloway and Broberg sign with the Blues.

Lets look at the oilers cap situation on August say 10th. Posters can check my math but we have to work under the assumption of healthy lineup to start the season. I believe the max we could have offered either was about 1.5mill a year. Camp were getting ready to open and so far it sounds like Oilers were not on the same page as Holloways agent and Broberg agent was not really talking to the oilers. HE said at the end of the season Brobergs trade request stood.

Between Bowman who got hired on July 24th and JJ--they should have known after the last offers to the players were rejected--that the agents doing their job would then shop their clients. Darren Ferris has confirmed he had been in contact with the Blues since mid July.


SI' article on the oilers offer Oilers offer 1.1 mill
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Details Emerge About Oilers Offer to Phillip Broberg

The St. Louis Blues added multiple budding prospects from the Edmonton Oilers by utilizing the rarely-seen offer sheet. With Dylan Holloway and Philip Broberg u
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I have found nothing on line about Blake Robson's contact with the Oilers prior to the offer sheets being made
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How does what you say not apply to virtually every RFA without arbitration rights. There were dozens of RFA's left unsigned at the time of the Blues OS and quite a few were better than either player.

Signed OS's are extremely rare. Especially at the amount Broberg signed for. Since the cap came in there have been 12 signed offer sheets in total including these two. Seven of those were for established stars and prior to this year all but two, Dustin Penner and Jesperi Kotkaniemi were matched. Of all of the signed OS's only Kotkaniemi could be seen as being comparable to either Oiler in terms of where the players was at the time in his development. But that OS was 100% a revenge move.

People are free to debate this situation and its impact on the team till the cows come home. But to suggest that the Oilers played this any differently than every other team has done with hundreds of similar prospects has no basis in history.
 
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Mr Positive said:
Carrier would be perfect

3 years x 3.75 aav. Overlaps with year 1 of McDavid's extension
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Imagine taking a huge swing and getting Carrier & Marchessault in the same trade...
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Mr Positive said:
Carrier would be perfect

3 years x 3.75 aav. Overlaps with year 1 of McDavid's extension
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Carrier isn't so big and isn't so fast but can move the puck and quite adequate defensively. Watching a few clips...dont really want to watch games; seems to have a good brain. If you pair him with Nurse he can headman the puck but will most likely trail the play which isn;t so bad. But you likely would be better off having a big man on the right side playing the third pair then.
Don't think Trotz would want to retain as they have two retained now. So something would have to go back especially if your looking to upgrade your tender as well.
 
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What i want to know is what happened to Jake Walman in Detroit? From a hockey personnel/skill level the trade makes no sense at all to me.
Yzerman is a very good talent evaluator--why did he do this? Was it a personal thing that happened within the organization?
 
Fourier said:
How does what you say not apply to virtually every RFA without arbitration rights. There were dozens of RFA's left unsigned at the time of the Blues OS and quite a few were better than either player.

Signed OS's are extremely rare. Especially at the amount Broberg signed for. Since the cap came in there have been 12 signed offer sheets in total including these two. Seven of those were for established stars and prior to this year all but two, Dustin Penner and Jesperi Kotkaniemi were matched. Of all of the signed OS's only Kotkaniemi could be seen as being comparable to either Oiler in terms of where the players was at the time in his development. But that OS was 100% a revenge move.

People are free to debate this situation and its impact on the team till the cows come home. But to suggest that the Oilers played this any differently than every other team has done with hundreds of similar prospects has no basis in history.
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Something tells me teams are going to be a little more militant in protecting their RFAs going forward.
 
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Fourier said:
And yet the OS for the Oiler pair did not trigger any fast moves on other team's RFA's. OS are highly inflationary and every GM know this.
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This is the exact short sightedness in the Oilers head office that allowed them to be submarined by 2 offer sheets.

Right now the cap is trying to catch up to revenues and teams will have a lot more money to spend over the next few years, so inflation is going to happen regardless. The 5 years of flat cap are now history and St.L realized it before the Oilers even dreamt it might happen despite Broberg asking to be traded.

As well, there is a new breed of owner and manager entering the league, ones that do not GAF about the OBC and enjoy disrupting the status quo.

High end RFA's will be safe with their teams as the cost of acquisition is too high but the mid range and about to break out RFA's cost of 2nd and 3rd round picks is peanuts, and these players will have incentive not to sign cheap two year deals before their deals expire but wait to see what might be out there, especially if their team is horribly mismanaged in the way the Oilers historically have been.

Agents will look to maximize contracts and once July 1 hits they can work with other teams to craft deals hard to match in the way Ferris did with St Louis.
 
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Canovin said:
Imagine the Oilers were lucky enough to pick up Fabbro off waivers or traded for him at 50% off
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Usually I don't get on management for not making early season moves (hard to bring in quality players until closer to the deadline) but Fabbro was a perfect opportunity sitting right there for them and all they had to do was throw any pick Nashville's way to get him. They could have made the cap work with some maneuvers, really disappointing that they weren't in on him but Oilers management is notoriously reactive instead of proactive so....par for the course really.
 
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CupofOil said:
Usually I don't get on management for not making early season moves (hard to bring in quality players until closer to the deadline) but Fabbro was a perfect opportunity sitting right there for them and all they had to do was throw any pick Nashville's way to get him. They could have made the cap work with some maneuvers, really disappointing that they weren't in on him but Oilers management is notoriously reactive instead of proactive so....par for the course really.
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What do you mean no early season moves? We picked ex-Toronto stud whatshisname Kapanen off waivers.....and with Oiler brass having certificates for being the smartest people in the room, I trust their decision making fully and completely.

>trying to keep a straight face but bursts out laughing<
 
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