Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Savoie Gets an Audition With the Trade Deadline Looming

[Jarvi]

On Rishaugs post game show, they highlight that Skinner is bottom of the league in most goalie stats, then get Jamie McLennan on to get his take. They talk about getting a guy for the AHL in case of injury to Stu, to keep Rodrigue from coming up. Then when Rishaug brings up "well fans want an upgrade on Stu" they proceed to mock fans by saying things like "well WHO is available for reasonable cost, like we all like to sit on our couch and talk about Shesterkin for Savoie deals but blah blah blah"

f***ing morons. Blackwood previously, Vejmelka and Gibson now. What there is no shortage of in this city, is braindead media that loves to shit on fans, but can't find their spine when it comes to criticizing the org for anything.

 

[McDoused]

On Rishaugs post game show, they highlight that Skinner is bottom of the league in most goalie stats, then get Jamie McLennan on to get his take. They talk about getting a guy for the AHL in case of injury to Stu, to keep Rodrigue from coming up. Then when Rishaug brings up "well fans want an upgrade on Stu" they proceed to mock fans by saying things like "well WHO is available for reasonable cost, like we all like to sit on our couch and talk about Shesterkin for Savoie deals but blah blah blah"

f***ing morons. Blackwood previously, Vejmelka and Gibson now. What there is no shortage of in this city, is braindead media that loves to shit on fans, but can't find their spine when it comes to criticizing the org for anything.

Rishaug also thought we would regret trading Barrie in the Ekholm deal. I like Rishaug but he still comes across as arrogant and needs to realize that fans are entitled to their opinions. I dont think he even realizes how much he does it.

 

[Jarvi]

Rishaug also thought we would regret trading Barrie in the Ekholm deal. I like Rishaug but he still comes across as arrogant and needs to realize that fans are entitled to their opinions. I dont think he even realizes how much he does it.

Honestly in the segment I referenced, Jamie Mclennan was the most annoying. Had a stupid story about Strudwick in Vegas too, that he thought was amazing but is probably shared by a million other dudes in that city. But he's a goalie so his opinion on things is just so much better than fans

Atleast Rishaug pushed back on the AHL depth addition somewhat. We have that in either of our current netminders. We need a starter, though I don't think Jamie Mclennan has any idea what that looks like, he certainly hasn't ever seen one in the mirror.

 

[oobga]

On Rishaugs post game show, they highlight that Skinner is bottom of the league in most goalie stats, then get Jamie McLennan on to get his take. They talk about getting a guy for the AHL in case of injury to Stu, to keep Rodrigue from coming up. Then when Rishaug brings up "well fans want an upgrade on Stu" they proceed to mock fans by saying things like "well WHO is available for reasonable cost, like we all like to sit on our couch and talk about Shesterkin for Savoie deals but blah blah blah"

f***ing morons. Blackwood previously, Vejmelka and Gibson now. What there is no shortage of in this city, is braindead media that loves to shit on fans, but can't find their spine when it comes to criticizing the org for anything.

Lol, media always trying to preemptively give Oilers management a pass because everything is so hard. 10 years and counting as incompetent management wastes McDavid's career. Chia endless passes until he was gone, then media blames him for stuff while giving Holland a pass. Now we can give Bowman as pass and blame Holland.

So so hard to properly address obviously issues with the team. Glad media is more concerned about apologizing in advance for the team rather than doing their own research and trying to demand a little of this org, so we avoid the Oilers being the first org to ever fail to win a cup after getting a clear generational talent.

 

[McTonyBrar]

On Rishaugs post game show, they highlight that Skinner is bottom of the league in most goalie stats, then get Jamie McLennan on to get his take. They talk about getting a guy for the AHL in case of injury to Stu, to keep Rodrigue from coming up. Then when Rishaug brings up "well fans want an upgrade on Stu" they proceed to mock fans by saying things like "well WHO is available for reasonable cost, like we all like to sit on our couch and talk about Shesterkin for Savoie deals but blah blah blah"

f***ing morons. Blackwood previously, Vejmelka and Gibson now. What there is no shortage of in this city, is braindead media that loves to shit on fans, but can't find their spine when it comes to criticizing the org for anything.

You should’ve only focused on what McLennan said

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Schwartz doesn't play goal for the Edmonton Oilers. If McDavid had a forward coach would he suddenly be shit?

How many posts did you complain about our head coach(es) ruining Schremp? Yakupov? etc.?

For all the blame that head coaches get when they are managing 19-21 players, shouldn't scrutiny be higher on a goalie coach who really only manages 2 goalies on a daily basis with the odd crumbs spent coaching AHL or prospect goalies.

Goaltending is such a technical position as well, where the goal is perfection and so much time is spent on movement, angles, glove positioning, reaction drills, good habits. No other coach has as much time or capacity to shape one or two specific players.

Would McDavid be shit without a forward coach probably not, but McDavid is in the running for being a top 5 player all time, he's not like the rest and even still I think a good coach enhances what we get out of him, maybe it's as little as 5% or 10% better, but it's still something.

While some will say 10% better would not be enough to make Skinner not shit; I think are underestimating how great of a perspective shift 10% better would create and also Schwartz has been able to mold him over his entire professional career, with a ton of daily meetings, one on one discussions, and specific drills, his impact should be significantly higher than 10% better.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

How many posts did you complain about our head coach(es) ruining Schremp? Yakupov? etc.?

For all the blame that head coaches get when they are managing 19-21 players, shouldn't scrutiny be higher on a goalie coach who really only manages 2 goalies on a daily basis with the odd crumbs spent coaching AHL or prospect goalies.

Goaltending is such a technical position as well, where the goal is perfection and so much time is spent on movement, angles, glove positioning, reaction drills, good habits. No other coach has as much time or capacity to shape one or two specific players.

Would McDavid be shit without a forward coach probably not, but McDavid is in the running for being a top 5 player all time, he's not like the rest and even still I think a good coach enhances what we get out of him, maybe it's as little as 5% or 10% better, but it's still something.

While some will say 10% better would not be enough to make Skinner not shit; I think are underestimating how great of a perspective shift 10% better would create and also Schwartz has been able to mold him over his entire professional career, with a ton of daily meetings, one on one discussions, and specific drills, his impact should be significantly higher than 10% better.

With skaters it's more to do with deployment and linemates. With goalies there's 2 of them and one is usually deemed the starter. Schwartz sucks, but Skinner has to own some of this too.

 

[Scrapin Ice]

Didnt Holland acquire Ekholm?

Brilliant observation,,,Stupendous! Downright Kulikovian!
Maybe think more about what i was really saying.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

It’s true we have lots of bottom 6 forwards but we could use another C and the PK could maybe use another specialist, although maybe better goaltending solves the PK. I think Derek Ryan regressing and now being off the team hurt the PK more than we give credit for. I guess McLeod and Vinny helped the PK quite a bit too.

Keep in mind if we add to the Top 6 it pushes players down to the bottom 6. Hypothetically adding a top 6 option pushes 2 players to the bottom 6 (with Kane back)

A bottom 6 TDL addition would go down as an F-

We were told we got rid of Holloway and Broberg to be able to make a "move" It's an Ekholm move or bust.

 

[brentashton]

Keep in mind if we add to the Top 6 it pushes players down to the bottom 6

And it pushes the less effective bottom 6 out. It’s a good thing.

 

[OilerTyler]

Keep in mind if we add to the Top 6 it pushes players down to the bottom 6. Hypothetically adding a top 6 option pushes 2 players to the bottom 6 (with Kane back)

A bottom 6 TDL addition would go down as an F-

We were told we got rid of Holloway and Broberg to be able to make a "move" It's an Ekholm move or bust.

Who knows what adding a top 6 forward does when Knoblauch is obsessed with playing top six forwards in the bottom six and bottom six forwards in the top six.

Yesterday we started the game with Podkolzin, Kapanen, Perry and Savoie as our top six wingers and Skinner, Hyman, Arvidsson, and Brown as our bottom six wingers.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Anyone else find it very funny that this "fan" has been all over the place after the worst weekend of the year? Extremely funny and on brand.

No matter how they try to hide it, you can always spot a Nucks fan trying infiltrate other fan bases. lol.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Who knows what adding a top 6 forward does when Knoblauch is obsessed with playing top six forwards in the bottom six and bottom six forwards in the top six.

Yesterday we started the game with Podkolzin, Kapanen, Perry and Savoie as our top six wingers and Skinner, Hyman, Arvidsson, and Brown as our bottom six wingers.

Skinner, Arvy and Brown are not top 6 wingers. We really don't have to 6 wingers.

 

[OilerTyler]

Skinner, Arvy and Brown are not top 6 wingers. We really don't have to 6 wingers.

I think we have top six wingers but they are struggling to find chemistry this season and Knob hasn’t been willing to shake things up.

We ran Nuge-McDavid-Hyman and Podz-Draisaitl-Arvidsson for like 40 games straight despite all four wingers struggling at even strength. Arvidsson needs some minutes with McDavid and Nuge/Hyman need some minutes with Drai. Skinner needs an extended look in the top six as he’s one of the team’s best goal scorers this season despite the reduced minutes and shitty linemates. Podkolzin needs to go back to the bottom six where he belongs.

If we try all of our options and they don’t work, sure go get a top six forward. But I don’t think our coaches have given an honest effort to creating a top six that works this season with the pieces available to them.

 

[CupofOil]

So...it appears that they need two top 6 wingers or at least hire a coach that knows how to utilize forwards, a 3C, a top 4 Dman, a #1 goalie, a heart and brain transplant. Good luck to you Stan and god speed

 

[Uindicator]

I knew this would go downhill once we hired bowman, karma is a b

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Skinner, Arvy and Brown are not top 6 wingers. We really don't have to 6 wingers.

Wingers should be the easiest thing to acquire and we have an eternal carousel of declining or otherwise over matched ones that shouldn't be in the top 6. Perry has arguably been our best winger this year which is alarmingly pathetic. I like Hyman a lot but he's a virtual nothing when separated from McDavid.

 

[FlameChampion]

When have the forward lines ever had chemistry? Feels like everyone just waits for McDavid/Draisaitl to do their thing. Pretty much been like this since McDavid got here. Only thing the coaches ever do is put them together.

30 games of Draisaitl-Yamamoto-RNH was probably the closest we ever got.

We havent had a third line in like 10+ years.

Also fix the goaltending. Try anything different at this point.

 

[FlameChampion]

Wingers should be the easiest thing to acquire and we have an eternal carousel of declining or otherwise over matched ones that shouldn't be in the top 6. Perry has arguably been our best winger this year which is alarmingly pathetic. I like Hyman a lot but he's a virtual nothing when separated from McDavid.

Hyman hasnt done much this year. I dont know how much of its him and how much of its McDavid.

 

[CupofOil]

As I see it, too much complacency on this team. Too many players are fine with coasting and not going balls to the walls. In no particular order:

1) Move out Arvidsson, trade, waive, whatever. For his cap hit he is crap. I have absolutely no time for this player.

2) Move out at least 1 regular bottom 6 guy. Show the rest that if you want to be here you need to work, nothing is guaranteed. One of Henrique, Janmark or Brown. Replace them with someone that has a motor and plays physical, a guy like Matt Hendricks was back in the day. Is that Trent Frederic?

3) Get a physical shut down RHD to move Emberson to the PB when we need Klingberg's puck moving and to move Klingberg to the PB when we need more of a solid defensive presence.

4) Add an actually offensively capable offensive winger to the top 6. If we can grab Rantanen while also getting other pieces that we need at the deadline go for it. We are too reliant on McDrai and Connor is fighting it right now.

5) ffs address the goaltending. Right now we are playing like we either want a coach fired or we have given up on our goalies and every bad goal just takes the wind out of our sails.

It's quite possible that none of these happen nevermind all 5.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

No mention of Dustin Schwartz. It's meaningless media drivel. Obviously given a script from above to absolve their gross incompetence.

edit* I misread your post at first as saying I never mentioned Schwartz but now realize you meant McLennan and Edmonton’s own media. They value that press pass too much, they lose that, they’re out of a job.

 

[CupofOil]

as other posters have pointed out

we are in a buck in buck out situation with trades

If this happens, people need to get fired.

Can you imagine after years of Vegas and Tampa creating LTIR space for deadline additions and again this year most likely with Vegas and Florida with Tkachuk gone for a while that the Oilers bring Kane back and are in a money in money out situation? Just fire all these morons if that happens.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

And...

We'll never know the results!

It’s the butler’s fault. It’s always the butler.

 

[FlameChampion]

If this happens, people need to get fired.

Can you imagine after years of Vegas and Tampa creating LTIR space for deadline additions and again this year most likely with Vegas and Florida with Tkachuk gone for a while that the Oilers bring Kane back and are in a money in money out situation? Just fire all these morons if that happens.

Yeah honestly if it’s money in/out the organization is going to look incredibly stupid.

If Kane comes back and we can’t use the LTIR, I’m going to be pretty disappointed with him. To be fair to the team, hes a bit of a wildcard. Not sure you can really make him do anything.

That said he no longer has a nmc like he did in the offseason. Bowman should be looking at everything at this point if hes not going to play along nicely.

Good luck to him.

 

[Fourier]

If this happens, people need to get fired.

Can you imagine after years of Vegas and Tampa creating LTIR space for deadline additions and again this year most likely with Vegas and Florida with Tkachuk gone for a while that the Oilers bring Kane back and are in a money in money out situation? Just fire all these morons if that happens.

While it would certainly be very unfortunate if Kane cam back for a few games before the end of the year it is not really in the teams hands if Kane actually wants to come back. They can try to persuade him but ultimately he holds the cards on this one.