Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Post Draft, Pre Free Agent Frenzy

[TheNumber4]

Not sure how accurate but I’m hearing 13.5x8 for Leon after Connor’s wedding

From where...?

 

[TheNumber4]

There’s been more talk of Hall double retained at the trade deadline but as it’s Tracy reporting it the one coming home is probably Chiarelli signing for toilet bowl cleaning.

THERE HAS? Where?

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

You have to think Ceci is traded next.

Look down the lineup.

1. We arent trading the core of McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, RNH, Ekholm, Bouchard or S.Skinner (too good of a cap hit).

2. Jackson isn't going to trade any of the guys he just signed in Skinner, Arvidsson, Janmark, Henrique, Brown, Perry, Stetcher, Brown or Pickard.

3. Broberg and Holloway are cheap contracts we can't afford to replace. Also trading Ryan doesn't help with the cap.

4. Nurse and Kane both have NMCs. I dont see either one wanting to waive.

That leaves Ceci and Kulak. I really don't see any reason to keep Ceci over Kulak at this point.

I think the condition for Kane to waive his is him getting pushed from a top 6 forward spot, he thinks very highly of himself and isn't happy taking a lesser role, though I'm sure he'll still want a say on where he ends up and I'm not sure how many teams are actually interested in his services. The condition for Nurse waiving his NMC I think will occur when the org has a heart to heart talk and just say we need this money to pay the extensions of players who are more important to the success of the franchise than you, if Nurse realizes he is standing in the way of the paydays of his friends and of the Oilers ability to stay competitive I think he'll reluctantly agree to waive the NMC.

NMC's obviously hinder a team's ability to make moves, but a ton of players with NMC's have been successfully traded it's usually not flexed to outright stop a team from moving a player altogether, it's more often a point of leverage so the player who is getting moved has agency in controlling where they are moved and on their own terms and timetable.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

THERE HAS? Where?

DNB speculating about some TDL targets and mentioned Hall and Stauffer agreed he’d be a good target double retained.

You’re probably right but, devils advocate, are we in win now mode or not?

Yes but we also have massive cap considerations coming and Savoie on an ELC could be a very cost effective add. “Win now mode” is for several seasons to come. Not just 24-25.

 

[TheNumber4]

DNB speculating about some TDL targets and mentioned Hall and Stauffer agreed he’d be a good target double retained.



Yes but we also have massive cap considerations coming and Savoie on an ELC could be a very cost effective add. “Win now mode” is for several seasons to come. Not just 24-25.

Holy shit. It's happening. I can feel it, it'll be real this time.

 

[Old Boys Club]

Wonder what the plan for 3/4C is. Perry is not an every game player, nor is Ryan. Have to think JJ shares the same opinion after watching them in the playoffs. Wouldn't mind a guy like Nick Cousins for cheap.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Wonder what the plan for 3/4C is. Perry is not an every game player, nor is Ryan. Have to think JJ shares the same opinion after watching them in the playoffs. Wouldn't mind a guy like Nick Cousins for cheap.

Honestly Ryan IMO is a 13th/14th forward at this point and so is the version of Perry that we saw in the playoffs.

 

[Shizuka]

It's unfortunate Philp took the year off. He is a fast skater, and had something like 32 pts. in BAK the season he did play. Apparently he's been skating and working with junior guys in Canmore or wherever, but that's far away from the speed and skill of the apex NHL players. He would be a pretty decent 4C option right now.

Other than Pederson, no one else really jumps to mind. Ryan is not really an every day NHLer anymore I think. They will platoon him with someone else (this is where an older prospect like Philp would be an ideal partner to spell off Ryan at times).

 

[North]

It's unfortunate Philp took the year off. He is a fast skater, and had something like 32 pts. in BAK the season he did play. Apparently he's been skating and working with junior guys in Canmore or wherever, but that's far away from the speed and skill of the apex NHL players. He would be a pretty decent 4C option right now.

Other than Pederson, no one else really jumps to mind. Ryan is not really an every day NHLer anymore I think. They will platoon him with someone else (this is where an older prospect like Philp would be an ideal partner to spell off Ryan at times).

Completely forgot about Pederson. He very well might be the 4C.

 

[syz]

Philp will be interesting to see in camp. Feel like he probably would be the 4C option at this point had he not taken a year off.

 

[McFlyingV]

Still think they might put Nuge back at centre and just run McD-Drai-Nuge-Henrique down the middle. They have the wingers to do it if Kane is healthy. There's been some talk in Oilers sports radio about Holloway getting an extended look in the top 6.

Skinner-McDavid-Hyman
Holloway-Drai-Arvidsson
Kane-Nuge-Perry/Savoie
Janmark-Henrique-Brown

Top 6 does their normal thing, 3rd line gets easy offensive minutes, 4th line gets hard defensive minutes as a match up line.

 

[jukon]

No way Henrique will be our 4C. He is too good.

 

[Gordian Knot]

Last year regular season, under Knoblauch we were really the best team in NHL.

Now we enter in this season with much stronger and deeper forward group and only difference in defence in VD out, JB and TS in. Does it really threat our season success if we go like this to December or TDL.

I am sure it doesn't and we will win many more games than last season.

When opportunity comes and if it comes, we can upgrade 2RD or 4C if needed, don't need to do it now and force things just to please some fans who have no vision and trust.

Ekholm trade is example of things that are never available in off season.

 

[FlameChampion]

You have to think Ceci is traded next.

Look down the lineup.

1. We arent trading the core of McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, RNH, Ekholm, Bouchard or S.Skinner (too good of a cap hit).

2. Jackson isn't going to trade any of the guys he just signed in Skinner, Arvidsson, Janmark, Henrique, Brown, Perry, Stetcher, Brown or Pickard.

3. Broberg and Holloway are cheap contracts we can't afford to replace. Also trading Ryan doesn't help with the cap.

4. Nurse and Kane both have NMCs. I dont see either one wanting to waive.

That leaves Ceci and Kulak. I really don't see any reason to keep Ceci over Kulak at this point.

Ceci + Kulak + whatever for Larsson would be interesting. I don’t know if he would want to come back or Seattle even wants to move him but its hard to find a RD upgrade on a cap deal. Broberg and Stetcher/Brown slot on third pairing.

Wonder what the plan for 3/4C is. Perry is not an every game player, nor is Ryan. Have to think JJ shares the same opinion after watching them in the playoffs. Wouldn't mind a guy like Nick Cousins for cheap.

I wouldn’t mind Evans if Montreal retains a bit

 

[Dazed and Confused]

It's unfortunate Philp took the year off. He is a fast skater, and had something like 32 pts. in BAK the season he did play. Apparently he's been skating and working with junior guys in Canmore or wherever, but that's far away from the speed and skill of the apex NHL players. He would be a pretty decent 4C option right now.

Other than Pederson, no one else really jumps to mind. Ryan is not really an every day NHLer anymore I think. They will platoon him with someone else (this is where an older prospect like Philp would be an ideal partner to spell off Ryan at times).

Ryan, Pederson, and Hamblin can all take a shift as the 4th line centre without much issue. My money would be on Hamblin winning the job. Philp could/should also get a look after Christmas if he's game hasn't fallen off too much.

None are likely a permanent option, but they're good enough until the tdl.

 

[McFlyingV]

No way Henrique will be our 4C. He is too good.

I don't see the Oilers 4th line as the typical 4th line. I see them running 4 lines pretty evenly at 5 on 5 with maybe a few more minutes for the top 6. This team has too many good forward to run a traditional 4th line.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Absolutely NOBODY was trading for PLD either...until they did...w no kicker.

Never say never

Nurse is not being traded this season

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

No way Henrique will be our 4C. He is too good.

I think that's just a number?

Maybe Mcdavid and Drai get their mins limited and line 3 and 4 share ice time?

 

[LTIR]

Nurse is not being traded this season

That would solve a lot of cap issues long term.

Ekholm, Kulak, Broberg as LD

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

With our cap structure I really see the defensive upgrade coming at the deadline when a team decides to sell and is willing to retain salary.

 

[Zerotonine]

No way Henrique will be our 4C. He is too good.

That 4th line would be the best 3rd line on nearly 30 other teams

 

[FlameChampion]

I wonder if Jackson actually sees both Perry and Ryan on the team next year. I don’t its a great idea personally.

 

[alphahelix]

I wonder if Jackson actually sees both Perry and Ryan on the team next year. I don’t its a great idea personally.

signing Perry above league min when not signing him at all was a valid option is the biggest headscratcher so far. Gagner has way better legs/ way more game left in him than Perry. Theres definitely budget UFAs that smoke em both. Id rather run Lavoie.

 

[Little Fury]

JJ has done more in two weeks than Holland did in 5 years. Incroyable.

 

[LTIR]

That 4th line would be the best 3rd line on nearly 30 other teams

Including our own :/

Kane-Nuge-Perry line does nothing for me.

signing Perry above league min when not signing him at all was a valid option is the biggest headscratcher so far. Gagner has way better legs/ way more game left in him than Perry. Theres definitely budget UFAs that smoke em both. Id rather run Lavoie.

We don't know what Perry brought in the locker room. There is more to just on ice production.
Oilers signed him for a reason and I'm sure coaching staff was consulted.
That McD clip of him hugging Perry in the end after elimination also shows something that we don't know.