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Wait are there still people complaining that JJ hasn’t done enough? I mean I know he didn’t do much to the back end yet but we were one of the top defensive teams in the league after KK started coaching
AgreedTeam should just move Kulak. Right side is too scary looking as is to move Ceci without bringing in a replacement IMO.
Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Stecher
Broberg - Ceci
Brown
Will get us to the deadline. Would open up enough space to sign both Broberg and Holloway to a small raise and still have some wiggle room to spare without running a barebones roster.
a few players also had the worst defensive metrics in the playoffs. 1 player in particular who does every yearWait are there still people complaining that JJ hasn’t done enough? I mean I know he didn’t do much to the back end yet but we were one of the top defensive teams in the league after KK started coaching
What?? You just said he's a top 4 Dman. Why on earth would you trade him when defence is our biggest need? He's already upgraded our top 4I'm probably gonna get criticism for this, but our biggest trade piece is Broberg. If he is playing well in the season and Oilers are looking to upgrade the top4, he will be the one who is asked to be the main piece in a trade.
What would it take for people to be fine with him getting moved?
Kulak seems to be really good value.Here are the stats involving those three over the last three years.
Regular Season:
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Playoffs:
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One thing that these don't tell you is circumstance when the combinations are on the ice. For much of the time Nurse was probably taking the more challenging match-ups. That said Kulak seems to come out well in this.
And that one player has a full NMC and is so close with our franchise player that he is is co best man at his wedding. We are not I repeat not trading Darnell Nurse anytime soon. Now Ceci I could see going for cap reasons and Stetcher can easily replace his minutes for a quarter of the cost. It Ceci or Kulak that is being moved on the backend. We will do a move for a top 4 d man at the deadline provided we can make space. I get it Nurse is not the greatest D man. But one nobody is trading for him (at full cap) and two Connor and Leon would lose it if he was traded. JJ seems like a guy that can the read rooma few players also had the worst defensive metrics in the playoffs. 1 player in particular who does every year
It's just how other teams will see the Oilers in terms of assets. If they want a a veteran top 4 dman, they will ask for Broberg. I would be in favor of keeping him, I just wanted to know what other posters would feel a fair return would be.What?? You just said he's a top 4 Dman. Why on earth would you trade him when defence is our biggest need? He's already upgraded our top 4
The Oilers cap situation got a little clearer, still some work to do to get Holloway and Broberg Signed. Will probably need to go with a 20 or 21 man roster and squeeze some pennies.
Maybe I am biased but I think trading Broberg would be a massive mistakeIt's just how other teams will see the Oilers in terms of assets. If they want a a veteran top 4 dman, they will ask for Broberg. I would be in favor of keeping him, I just wanted to know what other posters would feel a fair return would be.
Thats with Ryan and Stecher, Hollway and Broberg will probably cost more then that vets so could be tight.Works with 20 and we would be $600k below the cap. Not sure how cap accrual works for the deadline but that with Ceci out I am sure we could add something decent
Maybe I am biased but I think trading Broberg would be a massive mistake
I disagree with ~$3M being too expensive for the 3rd d-pairing, I know a lot of people have these old beliefs about the 3rd pairing is the place you scrimp on money and just ice the best ~$1M player you can get, but I'll say the mindset around the league has very much been changing.Agreed
I like Kulak, but he's a 15 - 16 minute a night guy who doesn't get used much on the PK while still making nearly 3 mill. He's too expensive for the limited role he's playing, especially with the team looking to slot Broberg in full time.
That's fine, maybe they do a similar deal like the Ekholm one and use a forward prospect and salary.Maybe I am biased but I think trading Broberg would be a massive mistake
If, if they open the vault and max / max McDavid and Draisaitl, they can't keep affording middle 6 / middle pairing players at hefty contracts. They will absolutely need prospects pushing up to challenge for spots. This is a really deft move, to get a guy who 2 years ago was a top 10 draft pick and has, aside from injuries, kept it up (even getting a cup of coffee in the A and producing 5 pts. in 6 GP). He's right on the cusp of breaking in I think. Good skater, slick hands stickhandling, good passer, good shot, and allegedly a good motor.You have to look at the future while also looking at the present when looking at what it appears is the plan. Broberg will just be entering his prime as he replaces Ekholm. Holloway will hopefully be able to replace Kane minus the fighting. Savoie will even possibly able to replace Skinner after Skinner moves on to the new higher contract with his new team the following offseason.
IMHO and if all goes fairly well, these are the reasons why I seriously doubt any of the 3 young guys I just named get moved for any reason. We have 3 major new contracts coming up in the next few years and need to be able to afford them. We finally may have a future laid out while also living in the present.
Just a thought - maybe the 1st half of a D upgrade?
Next step, Savoie + Ceci for a legitimate top 4 D?
Savoie arguably has significantly more universal trade value as a cost controlled top offensive prospect than McLeod, a niche known quantity with limited growth potential.
Ceci + McLeod = meh, no thanks
Ceci + Savoie (maybe plus a pick) = you had my curiosity but now you have my attention
/just a thought…
//what’s a team with a surplus of top 4 D and a prospect pool that could use more pop?