Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Post Draft, Pre Free Agent Frenzy

[Fishy McScales]

Are you new here? There are posters out there who ONLY whine about the GM, regardless of the context. On a forum called 'Hockey's Future' the conversation frequently revolves around the general manager.

I'm aware of the Bowman optics, but again, why am I worried about it?

Because you have some moral decency, right?

Right?

 

[Hollywood55]

Video coach, and they fired him and fully intended to dump the guy when they found out about him, but did the usual corporate thing of keeping it quiet to avoid bad publicity during a cup run while making it go away in the offseason in the hopes no one would notice.

Quenville is the one that wrote the letter of recommendation(since he was part of the coaching staff)

Thanks for correcting me. I got the details wrong.

 

[TheNumber4]

I kind of really hate that Vinny is a Nuck. At 2M he could be more valuable than a 5M Big Z.

 

[Oilhawks]

I kind of really hate that Vinny is a Nuck. At 2M he could be more valuable than a 5M Big Z.

Both are overpaid, Z is just a lot more overpaid than Desharnais is

Wasn’t Z making a lot less last year?

 

[Cloned]

So why was Bowman such a bad GM hockey wise?

Seth Jones.

Saad x 2.

Forgot to qualify his RFAs.

There’s more but that’s just off the top of my head.

 

[Vagabond]

I really hope Jackson doesn't hire Bowman.

Plus I wish we kept Desharnais as the 3rd RD over Ceci. It sucks even more that he went to Vancouver.

 

[Oilslick941611]

This place has so many ads its border line abusive

lol, use an adblocker. I haven’t seen an ad here in decades

 

[Oilhawks]

So why was Bowman such a bad GM hockey wise?

I said in the Bowman thread. Basically a lot of the same stuff Red Wings fans complained about with Holland. Didn’t make their rebuild any easier. Did do a decent job of retooling between Cups but they also had more holes than a lot of outsiders would like to admit

 

[McFlyingV]

This could be the hold up on Janmark. Maybes it’s Skinner or Janmark? Different roles of course but probably a similar amount of cap

Imo they should have enough for both if Skinner signs at a price Edmonton should be willing to do.

From a career standpoint a 1-year 2mil deal with Edmonton makes the most sense for Skinner. Not only does he get a chance at a cup with a team that just lost game 7 by 1 goal, but he also gets to play with one of the top 2 centres of this generation and can cash in next summer. He's already making a ton on his buyout that taking a 2mil deal shouldn't bother him when it could benefit him immensely in the long run.

 

[Wreckus]

lol, use an adblocker. I haven’t seen an ad here in decades

Trying brave browser now and it might be my main browser now

 

[McFlyingV]

I kind of really hate that Vinny is a Nuck. At 2M he could be more valuable than a 5M Big Z.

Zadorov skates way better than Vinny, has more offence, and is much more physically punishing. I wouldn't want either at those prices though.

 

[TheNumber4]

Both are overpaid, Z is just a lot more overpaid than Desharnais is

Wasn’t Z making a lot less last year?

He is. And Vinny would only be 500K overpaid if that...

Z came off a 3.75M contract.

 

[Hollywood55]

Radio silence on janmark

 

[Oilslick941611]

Trying brave browser now and it might be my main browser now

I have a gaming PC i only use for gaming and nothing and i use brave on it when i have to venture out in the WWW.

 

[iCanada]

Because you have some moral decency, right?

Right?

I mean, not to defend Bowman, but from a devil's advocate perspective - he did fire the guy as soon as he found out. Literally what else would you expect he do? Is that even his call in the first place? Or is it not fair to say that that decision is not strictly in HR's court of responsibility?

Sure he kept it quiet during the playoffs run, but I kind of think literally every other GM in the league probably does the same thing. I think if you're worried about a GM handling that situation in the most modern way - Bowman is probably the best guy to hire for the role arguably because I can guarantee he had learnings and perspective that no one else does at this stage.

That said - I'm not exactly convinced that Bowman is necessarily a great GM outside of that, so I'm still not exactly sold.

 

[The Nuge]

Man

manifesting Jeff Skinner or Adam Henrique @ 2.1m cap hit

With Buffalo paying him 14.5 million still and him never having made the playoffs, I can’t help but think Skinner might actually consider it

 

[Wreckus]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807879381366214797

 

[belair]

Because you have some moral decency, right?

Right?

I do.

 

[Sheikyerbouti]

Bowman had some exceptional years at the beginning, and he's at least a lateral move from Holland imo. He's good at drafting and development and understands the human aspect of the game like Holland. He has his strengths. People are upset but we have the same structure as Chicago did when Bowman was president but here he would just be GM.


IDGAF about the scandal tho. He handled it exactly as anyone else would have. He didn't protect the abuser, he protected the organization imo

 

[Frank the Tank]

Seth Jones.

Saad x 2.

Forgot to qualify his RFAs.

There’s more but that’s just off the top of my head.

No, that one was on Dale Tallon and was a significant reason why he was fired.

 

[TheNumber4]

Zadorov skates way better than Vinny, has more offence, and is much more physically punishing. I wouldn't want either at those prices though.

$2M for Vinny is not that bad of an overpay considering guys like Josh Brown at 1M guys. Vinny has to be worth more than that.

 

[Oilhawks]

He is. And Vinny would only be 500K overpaid if that...

Z came off a 3.75M contract.

$500K adds up fast.

If you gotta cut corners in the cap world, do it on the bottom of the roster players IMO. I’m sure they probably offered him something reasonable but decided to go for a bit more

 

[Hollywood55]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807879381366214797

Woo! Depth!

 

[Oilhawks]

No, that one was on Dale Tallon and was a significant reason why he was fired.

Yup. Not sure why people keep attributing that to Bowman

Tallon was crucified for that. Any good will he had from building the team beforehand was gone immediately

 

[Fishy McScales]

I mean, not to defend Bowman, but from a devil's advocate perspective - he did fire the guy as soon as he found out. Literally what else would you expect he do? Is that even his call in the first place? Or is it not fair to say that that decision is not strictly in HR's court of responsibility?

Sure he kept it quiet during the playoffs run, but I kind of think literally every other GM in the league probably does the same thing. I think if you're worried about a GM handling that situation in the most modern way - Bowman is probably the best guy to hire for the role arguably because I can guarantee he had learnings and perspective that no one else does at this stage.

That said - I'm not exactly convinced that Bowman is necessarily a great GM outside of that, so I'm still not exactly sold.

Aldrich resigned. Bowman hushed it down and swept it under the rug.