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[McFlyingV]

Look I'm as anti-Leaf as they come.

Carlo is not bottom pair. I'd say he isn't his peak top pair form either.

Tanev is a top 5 shut-down dman in this league. He's definitely top pair. Just not a #1 dman

You sure about that?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

You sure about that?

Yeah I don't love Carlo, but I do think he'll be a good fit with Reilly on the other side.

 

[McFlyingV]

Yeah I don't love Carlo, but I do think he'll be a good fit with Reilly on the other side.

Thats a lot of responsibility for a guy who has been struggling in bottom pairing minutes for the 2nd straight season.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Thats a lot of responsibility for a guy who has been struggling in bottom pairing minutes for the 2nd straight season.

I think with the support of Reilly, a healthy Tanev and McCabe, I think they're in pretty good shape.

Again, I think the player was a bad fit for Edmonton, but it should be a decent fit for Toronto, they can have OEL as a fully bottom-pairing guy.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

I remember when Holland was hired, many people making excuses that Chia left him with a thin roster and no cap space. Well, Treliving received pretty much the same thing from Dubas and was able to add Tanev, OEL, and Carlo to their d-core in 10 months. 3 top 4 defensemen. Good GMs do their job and don’t make excuses.

So you don't remember 1.5 months ago when consensus was our d was one of the best in the NHL?

 

[Oilhawks]

Thats a lot of responsibility for a guy who has been struggling in bottom pairing minutes for the 2nd straight season.

I might be remembering wrong, but I seem to recall Carlo was one of the worst players in the Bruins’ last playoff series and was a big reason why they got punted

 

[foshizzle]

I might be remembering wrong, but I seem to recall Carlo was one of the worst players in the Bruins’ last playoff series and was a big reason why they got punted

He’s a glorified Desharnais

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He’s a glorified Desharnais

At least he's Glorified lol.

Look I'm happy the Leafs spent 2 quality assets for him and the Oiler only had to spend 1 on Walman, who still makes less on the cap.

 

[Dieseloil]

Buckle up Oil fans, we are running with game seven Stu.

 

[KCC]

Buckle up Oil fans, we are running with game seven Stu.

Bowman’s answer about goaltending was hilarious. He talked and talked and basically tried to baby and shelter Stu and his bad play. He flat out admitted how inconsistent he is and tried to blame it on the team. It’s infuriating how bad the gm’s have been over the years in regard to the goaltending position. Even much of the media thinks goaltending isnt the biggest problem. It’s insane. lol

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Bowman’s answer about goaltending was hilarious. He talked and talked and basically tried to baby and shelter Stu and his bad play. He flat out admitted how inconsistent he is and tried to blame it on the team. It’s infuriating how bad the gm’s have been over the years in regard to the goaltending position. Even much of the media thinks goaltending isnt the biggest problem. It’s insane. lol

Yeah it wasn't ideal, more effort should have been put forward here, at least it seems to tell me they will look for more significant changes in the offseason.

 

[McDoused]

Bowman’s answer about goaltending was hilarious. He talked and talked and basically tried to baby and shelter Stu and his bad play. He flat out admitted how inconsistent he is and tried to blame it on the team. It’s infuriating how bad the gm’s have been over the years in regard to the goaltending position. Even much of the media thinks goaltending isnt the biggest problem. It’s insane. lol

I mean what do you want Bowman to say? To call out a fragile Skinner?

The truth is that the goalie market sucked and this is Skinners chance to redeem himself. If not you can bet that's the first thing Bowman upgrades in the offseason.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I mean what do you want Bowman to say? To call out a fragile Skinner?

The truth is that the goalie market sucked and this is Skinners chance to redeem himself. If not you can bet that's the first thing Bowman upgrades in the offseason.

It did suck, but there were plenty of upgrades for Pickard at least, and some effort should have been put forward here.

I still think Pickard and a 4th would get you Anton Forsberg and he's an upgrade. Something similar might have gotten them Allen or maybe just a straight 3rd would get Lyon, to give them a 3rd option. (Though the Detroit weirdness happened pretty late)

 

[McDoused]

It did suck, but there were plenty of upgrades for Pickard at least, and some effort should have been put forward here.

I still think Pickard and a 4th would get you Anton Forsberg and he's an upgrade. Something similar might have gotten them Allen or maybe just a straight 3rd would get Lyon, to give them a 3rd option.

I mean sure you could upgrade pickard but unless its someone that's better than Skinner, it will still be Skinners net during the playoffs.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I mean sure you could upgrade pickard but unless its someone that's better than Skinner, it will still be Skinners net during the playoffs.

If it's someone "closer" to Skinner they may be more willing to switch, because with Pickard they really aren't.

 

[North]

Bowman’s answer about goaltending was hilarious. He talked and talked and basically tried to baby and shelter Stu and his bad play. He flat out admitted how inconsistent he is and tried to blame it on the team. It’s infuriating how bad the gm’s have been over the years in regard to the goaltending position. Even much of the media thinks goaltending isnt the biggest problem. It’s insane. lol

Yeah…Stan isn’t going to sewer Skinner now that we’re stuck with him for the rest of the season.

 

[CROTT]

Bowman’s answer about goaltending was hilarious. He talked and talked and basically tried to baby and shelter Stu and his bad play. He flat out admitted how inconsistent he is and tried to blame it on the team. It’s infuriating how bad the gm’s have been over the years in regard to the goaltending position. Even much of the media thinks goaltending isnt the biggest problem. It’s insane. lol

Looks like you're trying to take his words and suit them to your narrative, he said the goalies should be better but also the team shouldn't be giving up multiple break ways and HDSC to rely on the goalies to steal a game to win, rather than the team skaters and goalies together playing good enough to win.

When this team has a decent attention to detail, they win games like they did mid Nov to mid Jan when Skinner had the 4-8th best save percentage in the league. And thats the truth for the majority of teams, its a team game and goaltending is not only between the pipes but the whole 200ft game to get quality results.

 

[MessierThanThou]

I mean what do you want Bowman to say? To call out a fragile Skinner?

The truth is that the goalie market sucked and this is Skinners chance to redeem himself. If not you can bet that's the first thing Bowman upgrades in the offseason.

Goalies were available but keep telling yourself that. Let the cope kick in.

 

[Soundwave]

Vancouver says hi. Or Calgary... destined to remain in mediocrity.

The only reason the Oilers are better are because of some lottery balls bouncing their way, not because they are better managed.

 

[Soundwave]

I mean what do you want Bowman to say? To call out a fragile Skinner?

The truth is that the goalie market sucked and this is Skinners chance to redeem himself. If not you can bet that's the first thing Bowman upgrades in the offseason.

Well that's the Oilers organization in a nutshell ... they're more concerned with Stuart Skinner's feelings than winning a Cup.

How do you leave 3+ million unspent in a do or die year where you'll never have Draisaitl and Bouchard for this cheap again? Team is full of shit when they say they are serious about winning. They just "kinda, sorta" want it, really they just want McDavid to carry them to a Cup.

 

[Heavy Dee]

We are managed worse than both.

Thanks to Katz and Best in Class Jeff

 

[Zguy370]

It did suck, but there were plenty of upgrades for Pickard at least, and some effort should have been put forward here.

I still think Pickard and a 4th would get you Anton Forsberg and he's an upgrade. Something similar might have gotten them Allen or maybe just a straight 3rd would get Lyon, to give them a 3rd option. (Though the Detroit weirdness happened pretty late)

That was my wish all along, since Merilainen will be their future, they even have Sogaard, a good GM would of found a way to strike a deal with Staios. Or any other GM for that fact, heck half the starters in the AHL are better that this childish dip shit.

 

[Soundwave]

I also don't buy "no one was available!".

Detroit has Talbot, Lyon, and Mrazek why do they need 3 freaking goalies for?

Anaheim has Gibson, Dostal, Husso, ditto.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

I mean what do you want Bowman to say? To call out a fragile Skinner?

The truth is that the goalie market sucked and this is Skinners chance to redeem himself. If not you can bet that's the first thing Bowman upgrades in the offseason.

Pretty much. They gambled on him improving this year (which was somewhat understandable after most of the playoffs) and then there weren't good upgrades available. I'm sure they would've made different decisions in hindsight. Just sucks that hindsight would've changed so many of management's decisions.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Well that's the Oilers organization in a nutshell ... they're more concerned with Stuart Skinner's feelings than winning a Cup.

How do you leave 3+ million unspent in a do or die year where you'll never have Draisaitl and Bouchard for this cheap again? Team is full of shit when they say they are serious about winning. They just "kinda, sorta" want it, really they just want McDavid to carry them to a Cup.

It does suck that they have quite a bit of unused cap space with Kane out until the playoffs. I was hoping they'd use every dollar of it. But I guess they are really planning for both this year and next and this was too much of a seller's market to make other acquisitions worth it.