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That wouldn't be enough. There wikkybe lots of firsts on the table without the junk attached.
Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Kane to Return Soon, What Does Holland Do to Get Cap Compliant?
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Janmark and Ryan are useful depth players. Kostin and McLeod are potential long term fixtures here.
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Was listening to Dmitri Filipovic's PDOcast and was making some pretty interesting views about what the Oilers need at the trade deadline based on the underlying numbers.
-McDavid is #1 in the NHL in rush chances, the Oilers as a team is 16th. Pointed at the fact that the backend can't transition the puck to the forwards. McDavid can obviously work through this by doing everything himself when he's on the ice. Also points out that McDavid and Draisaitl aren't outscoring the opposition 5v5 this year when playing apart. Doesn't blame them but highlights the d-men's inability to transition and lack of secondary scoring.
- Edmundson is the exact opposite of what the Oilers need (can't transition the puck).
- Of the rumoured dmen available, Chychrun is the best fit. Not only would he be the best dman on the Oilers at transition but he's also terrifix in the d-zone. Points out that Nurse simply isn't good enough to play the minutes and opposition that he does and for this reason that having a good LHD is the best thing to help the dmen. Would pay 2x1sts + Broberg+ salary out if thats what it took (as obviously the 1st rounders arent going to help the team during the rest of McDrais contracts)
- Acquiring players like Gavrikov and McCabe aren't going to move the dial, they aren't that much better if at all that what we have. Says that acquiring middle-6 forwards that can score goals would nake much more of an impact to the team's results.
-McDavid is #1 in the NHL in rush chances, the Oilers as a team is 16th. Pointed at the fact that the backend can't transition the puck to the forwards. McDavid can obviously work through this by doing everything himself when he's on the ice. Also points out that McDavid and Draisaitl aren't outscoring the opposition 5v5 this year when playing apart. Doesn't blame them but highlights the d-men's inability to transition and lack of secondary scoring.
- Edmundson is the exact opposite of what the Oilers need (can't transition the puck).
- Of the rumoured dmen available, Chychrun is the best fit. Not only would he be the best dman on the Oilers at transition but he's also terrifix in the d-zone. Points out that Nurse simply isn't good enough to play the minutes and opposition that he does and for this reason that having a good LHD is the best thing to help the dmen. Would pay 2x1sts + Broberg+ salary out if thats what it took (as obviously the 1st rounders arent going to help the team during the rest of McDrais contracts)
- Acquiring players like Gavrikov and McCabe aren't going to move the dial, they aren't that much better if at all that what we have. Says that acquiring middle-6 forwards that can score goals would nake much more of an impact to the team's results.
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Nugent Hopkins is a pure distributor centre who's skilled enough to slide over to top six wing. He's adept at playing with a rotating bevy of wingers when this team's coaches inevitably stack McDavid Draisaitl.
Last year's playoff should be enough to convince most people with his production and 20:22 TOI average in a deep run. Year before, the Jets series game 4 the guy played 39:58 TOI with green banana and Kassian who missed most of the season back in time for the playoffs. While the Jets sawed off McDavid Draisaitl in that game, RNH put up 2 points in their 3 point game total while averaging 24:24 TOI for the series.
This team finally has some quality forward depth that extends to Nugent Hopkins whether centering the second or third line. He's driving quality results with Janmark and Kostin, who weren't on the roster to start the year. All coaches have leaned on Nugent Hopkins to centre a divergent, mash up of wingers. He does it without complaint or ego. And he's productive.
The issue has been building up quality support players on this roster with skill, size, and aggression. Winger adds Kane, Hyman, Kostin, Holloway, Janmark enables great flexibility to deploy this team's three centre spine strength. Nugent Hopkins has shown adept at centre with a revolving group of wingers and situations whether at 2C or 3C.
Nurse for Horvat. Edmonton's next 1st + Puljujarvi + Foegele + 2025 1st + prospect for Chychrun. Edmonton 1st + Prospect for Gavrikov
Sign Horvat 7x7
Gavrikov 4.5x5
Horvat McDavid Hyman
Kane Draisaitl Yamamoto
Janmark RNH Kostin
Holloway McLeod Ryan
Chychrun Barrie
Gavrikov Ceci
Broberg Bouchard
Vinny
No one will take Nurse and his contract
Yanni Gourde is the exact type of forward you want as a 3C in the playoffs. Just tenacious on the backcheck. Total puckhound.
I don't think that size is necessarily a deal breaker, especially when talking about a pivot, but the ability to read and anticipate plays and engage in and win puck battles is absolutely necessary.
Jonathan Toews is the type of player the Oilers should be considering IMO.
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Horvat isn't signing anywhere close to 7m. Seravalli recently said on DFO rundown that his contract will start with an 8, and he believes there's one team out there that would go as high as 9 (Guessing Columbus)
I had 3 concussion my 4th cause me to start taking seizures. They are as serious as you can get. I forget about 3 years of my life where I was taking as many as 4 seizures a day. Had to move to Ottawa for a decent doctor who had them under control with in 6 months. Idiot doctors in NS could get anything right.
Easy to win games with the refs constantly in your pocket. f*** the Avs.
I said as much at the end. Vancouver wouldn't take Nurse so no deal to be done. Plus a GM would have to have a contract in place before making such a deal. Then adding 2 defence men is something that should be done in the off season.
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We will never win a Stanley Cup with RNH maintaining a prominent role or playing important minutes as a center.
I'm not going to cover the ease with which we made it to the Conference Finals again because it gets me in trouble.
It was Landeskog in the Avs series. Cheap hit
I would call trading for Kostin when he could have been had for free 2 days earlier “pulling a rabbit out of his hat”
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That means every team in the league passed on him. Holland was the only one to circle back and give him a chance.
Oh and he still was essentially free. We could have picked samu right back up.
So 9 goals and counting… for free.
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Wait, someone is trying to discredit Holland for the Kostin trade, of all things?
Lmao
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Disagree obviously. His playoff work suggest otherwise. This team is finally building up quality forward support to weather every coach's tendency to stack McDavid Draisaitl. The team needs a better quality/balanced defense corp which can defend blue paint ice and cycle break (a player type that is frequently undervalued by advance analytics based on raw data). Nice to get a taste of this with Desharnais.
Stated before a perfect scenario would be to add a veteran 1RD to stabilize Nurse and a 2LD two way defender. The Oilers defense doesn't match up to large, diverse veteran d-corp one sees with legitimate Cup contending teams.
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I’d be ok with just getting him as a pure rental too. Foegele (plus a bunch of assets) for Horvat (50% retained), and Gavrikov (50% retained by Columbus, and 50% retained through another team) would let us ice a team that should compete for the cup. It would obviously be expensive but we aren’t getting any younger.
Kane - McDavid - Hyman
Nuge - Drai - Yamo
Kostin - Horvat - Pulju
Holloway - McLeod - Janmark
Nurse - Ceci
Gavrikov - Bouchard
Kulak - Barrie
Broberg
Skinner
Campbell
Come playoffs, Ryan and say Shore come back up
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They're doing Bruce so dirty and he doesn't deserve to be treated like that. If I was Bruce, I'd have told Rutherford "If you're going to f***ing fire me then f***ing fire me. Quit f***ing me around."
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Yup. It’s an excuse too. They could have fired him and had Colliton (lol) or somebody handle the team in the interim before they made a mistake with Tocchet
Vancouver continuing to be utterly classless as always.
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His shooting percentage is almost 10 % more than his career average he is having a Kreider-like season one and done possible 50 goal campaign his career high before this year was 30 goals he obtained last year he will be back to a 25-30 goal scorer next year bookit
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