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What does Bowman trade for first?


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Waive Kapanen and Stetcher. With Arvidsson, Jeff Skinner and Podkolzin not getting the job done in the top 6 we need Kane or a plyer similar to him.
The issue is he has missed so much time he will probably take a few weeks to a month to actually play well most likely. Like look how long Brown took to bounce back. Kane might not.

We’re moving Arvidsson now too. Gazzola pretty much confirmed it. He’s most likely the one who asked for a change since he hasn’t been a fit
Got proof?
 
This team needs to start bringing in players who have proven they can succeed in the type of role we are going to give them here.

Jeff Skinner has averaged 16.5 minutes per game his entire career. Comes here and gets 4 minutes less per game

Arvidsson goes from 16.5 minutes his entire career to 14.5

Henrique goes from 17.5 his entire career to just over 14

In hindsight it’s no surprise they have struggled in reduced roles.

Yeah but maybe it’s not just the players. The organization and coaching staff aren’t putting these guys in good situations.

Theres too much over reliance on the big guns.

In an alternative timeline, wouldn’t surprise me to see Henrique put up 15G on Winnipeg or Columbus.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see JSkinner put up 15-20G with Toronto.

Something in the water or something.
 
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With Kane, I see his point. He’s a competitor. He wants to get out and play and get into game shape before the playoffs.

It’s not his fault these bozos overestimated his return and signed a few players with no move clauses and now he’s the odd one out? Look what he put his body through for this team, he couldn’t even sit on the bench. How f***ing stupid can this management be.

I say good for him for pushing back if he’s getting second opinions on his health (I don’t know if he is or not, just speculating) and those opinions are he can start practicing. Yeah it handcuffs the team at TDL now but Bownhead and Double J(ackass) did it to themselves, and the team.

f*** these two idiots, they may as well stand pat now.
There is no way he can start practicing. Getting a health check that his injuries are healed is one thing- strength and cardio are totally different beast. No way is he passing a physical anytime soon
 
Tampa is going to find out they're short of a 6th round pick from acquiring Tuch so they end up calling the Oilers for Arvidsson
I wonder if you could swing a deal with the Jackets, and change things up for both teams? Jackets could use some veteran depth to support their kids and they have a contract they might want to move.

To CLB: Klingberg, Arvidsson, 2025 2nd

To EDM: Severson ($1.25M retained)
 
There’s something hilarious about the first time the Oilers try and do this LTIR game to get a guy to the playoffs so we can get some extra cap and the player won’t play along.

You’d think the team would have checked in to make sure with Kane he was down with this in the offseason lol.

Not a big surprise if Kane isn’t willing to be a team player though. There’s a reason he’s been chased off every team he’s ever been on.
I see what you’re saying in the first two paragraphs but disagree with the bolded. Kane is a physical add to a p***ycat team. Guys heal faster all the time and original prognosis was after playoffs started. That changed obviously and Kane wants to get back playing. I don’t blame him.

There is no way he can start practicing. Getting a health check that his injuries are healed is one thing- strength and cardio are totally different beast. No way is he passing a physical anytime soon
Sorry meant skating, getting into shape, not practicing.
 
Why would you think that. Our prospect pool is tiny, the majority of our players are 30 or almost. Our best defender is already starting to decline, McDavid and Draisaitl are nearing the end of their prime and this org doesn’t have anything close to a starting goalie anywhere near this org unless one plays against us.

I’m sorry Pickard isn’t good enough of a goalie to go far with, I like him but he is NOT a starter, neither is Skinner. It’s the biggest hole in this org and has been McDavids entire career.
Because the guys who drive this roster aren't the ones getting older. The cap going up significantly only stands to benefit the team with McDrai on it.

I don't think that the Oilers will have an issue convincing players to play here for some time. But I think it's important for the organization to not tie its hands in the same way that Jeff Jackson did this summer. The Oilers need cap flexibility, they need the ability to maneuver and they need to be creative in future years finding undervalued young players to fill roles.

I'm not using Pickard as a literal goalie that we should run with. He's an example of a John Doe average goalie. If you have a team built to steamroll competition at 5v5, Colorado proved that it makes no difference who the goalie is.

Elite goalies are drafted and developed way more often than they get traded for. Most teams have guys in that middle ground who vary from good to shit year-over-year.
 
Thanks a lot Jackson...

List of key Oilers players lost this summer having career years
Foegele .
Mcloed.
Holloway

List of additions having their worst career years (basically)
Henrique.
Skinner.
Arvidson.

The lost players are collectively $2.1M cheaper….
 
Thanks a lot Jackson...

List of key Oilers players lost this summer having career years
Foegele .
Mcloed.
Holloway

List of additions having their worst career years (basically)
Henrique.
Skinner.
Arvidson.

The lost players are collectively $2.1M cheaper….
There has to be a reason why almost every acquisition sees their production nosedive when they put on an Oilers jersey.
 
Hello Kurt....Stan here,,,,just wanted to let you know that Arvid will be our 14th forward from here on out....bye Kurt.

2 days Later....

Hello Stan....Its Kurt...Arvid would like to quietly request a trade.
Well Kurt ....thanks for the call...you know that/s something we likely can make happen for you guys. In fact i might have an idea where he can be a big part of the solution.
 
This team is nothing like that Avs team. That team had like 6 or 7 players hitting career highs that season.
You're right. And if the Oilers go into this year's post-season with the roster they have now, they're probably going to get bullied. This roster needs four lines.
 
We’re moving Arvidsson now too. Gazzola pretty much confirmed it. He’s most likely the one who asked for a change since he hasn’t been a fit

The only way I see that working is if it’s a trade back to a team he played for, which leaves LA or Nashville. Maybe he’s the cap balancer in a Skinner for Saros deal? Trotz might be the only active GM worse than Bowman/Jackson so there is a slim possibility, but hope is all we have right now.
 
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Hello Kurt....Stan here,,,,just wanted to let you know that Arvid will be our 14th forward from here on out....bye Kurt.

2 days Later....

Hello Stan....Its Kurt...Arvid would like to quietly request a trade.
Well Kurt ....thanks for the call...you know that/s something we likely can make happen for you guys. In fact i might have an idea where he can be a big part of the solution.

We could this with Kane and Skinner but have not. Our guys have no clue how to manage ruthlessly.
 
Who the f*** is Pavel Francouz?

We're comparing him to Pickard, seriously?
Pickard's been a career journeyman. I like Pickard and root for him. But his numbers especially against playoff teams and on the PK is absolutely horrible.
Pickard is not a starter whatsoever.
 
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You're right. And if the Oilers go into this year's post-season with the roster they have now, they're probably going to get bullied. This roster needs four lines.

They don’t even have 2 reliable lines right now, they’re not going to become some deep forward group over one trade deadline. Goaltending is something the can be significantly upgraded right now.
 
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Carolina trading Rantanen would open up a spot for Arvidsson. I don't hate it. Oilers can't sign Rantanen with a bunch of guys on NMC
 

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