Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: Help Wanted

[Jumptheshark]

I don't want Soderblom either when there's better options out there.
If there's a blackhawks player I do like, its Lukas Reichel.
(I see the management targeting Donato though)

Interesting player who has not developed the way most would have hoped

 

[McAsuno]

Interesting player who has not developed the way most would have hoped

Imagine they get him and Buffalo's JJ Peterka to slot on Draisaitl's wing.
The Deutschland line lol.

 

[CycloneSweep]

He also has Arvy’s salary, Klingberg’s salary, Kapanen’s salary, Janmark’s salary, Pickard and Skinner’s salary that he can move. Boman can make this a significantly stronger roster but I think our front office is horrid. Bill Scott, Keith Gretzky and Stan Boman. Florida has Bill Zito, Sunny Mehta (freaking analytics wizard), Paul Fenton, Rick Dudley, Les Jackson, Greg Campbell, Brett Peterson. That’s like 3 former GMs reporting to Bill Zito. How the f*** are Bill Scott and Keith Gretzky still here

He can but he won’t. We all know it. Bowman isn’t a big splash guy. Never has been.

 

[foshizzle]

I don't want Soderblom either when there's better options out there.
If there's a blackhawks player I do like, its Lukas Reichel.
(I see the management targeting Donato though)

Solderblom is 18th in goals saved above expected/60 on a bad Hawks team. On this Oilers team he can be just outside of the top 10 (goalies with a minimum 28 games played)

Just saw Talbot, he’s 7th.

 

[McDoused]

Gibson not having a very good game against Chicago tonight.

 

[FunkyChicken]

Who has the most empty net goals?
We should trade for him.

 

[CycloneSweep]

i predict we just get some overpaid 4th liners at full salary to save assets and that’s it.

 

[Soundwave]

Gibson not having a very good game against Chicago tonight.

Might be good for us. Lowers Anaheim's leverage. Ooooh he looks bad after injury, I dunno, best we can do is a 2nd.

EDIT: Watching the highlights, man is Anaheim a defensive tire fire tonight. 2-0 breakaway practically, 5-on-3, PP with Maroon left entirely alone net front, etc. etc.

 

[McAsuno]

Solderblom is 18th in goals saved above expected/60 on a bad Hawks team. On this Oilers team he can be just outside of the top 10 (goalies with a minimum 28 games played)

Just saw Talbot, he’s 7th.

I'd still prefer Gibson or Vejmelka more personally.

 

[FlameChampion]

Pretty decent return for Chicago.

Retaining for that long is pretty rough but probably won’t matter much for them.

Will be interesting to see how Jones will do on Florida, but it will probably work out because they are a good team.

Would of just been easier to keep Montour though?

 

[McDoused]

I'd still prefer Gibson or Vejmelka more personally.

No way Utah trades vejmelka. He's their #1.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

So GYB had one interesting point regarding Kane this evening.

While they're one of the worse ones for jumping on the Kane could come back (just don't ask how that roadmap looks if he's barely skating and there's only 6 weeks left before the end of the season) argument.
- Seriously, Strudwick is the only one not playing dumb on that one - I do think they briefly let slip what could be sore spot with Kane:

If the LTIR money goes towards a proper replacement of him (ie. a Frederic or Josh Anderson type), and that cost him his roster spot in the playoffs.


I mean, that's the first half logical argument I've heard why on Kane could be an issue. Otherwise everything's been along the lines of Kane really values getting that one week of games in, as he doesn't want to go into the playoffs cold.

But even if that would outright limit his ability to win a cup? I'm not doubting Kane's long history of being a selfish asshat, but also I don't question Kane's desire to win, and him not doing anything to help boost those odds. Especially when he already has a contract for next year and there's no financial motivation.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Word is Bowman is so good at sitting on his hands that he can skip the doctor and give himself his own prostate exams.

 

[bellagiobob]

So GYB had one interesting point regarding Kane this evening.

While they're one of the worse ones for jumping on the Kane could come back (just don't ask how that roadmap looks if he's barely skating and there's only 6 weeks left before the end of the season) argument.
- Seriously, Strudwick is the only one not playing dumb on that one - I do think they briefly let slip what could be sore spot with Kane:

If the LTIR money goes towards a proper replacement of him (ie. a Frederic or Josh Anderson type), and that cost him his roster spot in the playoffs.


I mean, that's the first half logical argument I've heard why on Kane could be an issue. Otherwise everything's been along the lines of Kane really values getting that one week of games in, as he doesn't want to go into the playoffs cold.

But even if that would outright limit his ability to win a cup? I'm not doubting Kane's long history of being a selfish asshat, but also I don't question Kane's desire to win, and him not doing anything to help boost those odds. Especially when he already has a contract for next year and there's no financial motivation.

If the projection is that Kane would come back with only a week left in the season, then I would have an issue with that. But if its three weeks or so left in the season, I honestly can't blame the player for wanting to have some time to ramp up his game before the playoffs, especially one that's been out an entire year.

 

[Duder54]

I like Soderblom, but we have Schwartz who can wreck young goalies

Fixed your post.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

If the projection is that Kane would come back with only a week left in the season, then I would have an issue with that. But if its three weeks or so left in the season, I honestly can't blame the player for wanting to have some time to ramp up his game before the playoffs, especially one that's been out an entire year.

We're 3 weeks away from there being 3 weeks remaining in the season, and he's still not practicing. Even with the most optimistic projections, I just don't see any path on how he could be in game shape before the end of March.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

We're 3 weeks away from there being 3 weeks remaining in the season, and he's still not practicing. Even with the most optimist projections, I just don't see any path on how he could be in game shape before the end of March.

i agree, the guy hasn't played a game, not one, not even preseason since Game 7, about 8 months ago. He hasn't even had a full contact and speed practice in that long. Unless Kane is going to make a stink about, there's no reason that you couldn't see Kane out until at least game 1. 3 surgeries and 9 months off, hard to believe he's anywhere near ready to play.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

So where does this score between crazy and mad?

Let's say they decide to target Vel or Gibson to fix goaltending (not the main point of this post, just setting the stage). Neither of ANA or UTA are likely looking for a goalie in return, and with FLA moving Knight they now need a cheap backup, so I doubt you can sneak Pickard through waivers.

So if they get a new starter, would you do for Skinner for Jarry at 50%? (3 and bit years remaining at ~2.7mil)

Jarry's already in the minors, so they can continue to roll with Picks as backup, but you get a legit #3 if injuries happen. Imo this is far better than a depth chart of Gibson/Vel, Skinner, Rod/Delia.

From PITT's POV, they're going to be buying out Jarry this offseason and this move saves them a bit of money.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

I'd do Skinner for Jarry (50% retained). Both guys might benefit from a change of scenery. Skinner is more proven as far as playoffs, but he also has played behind a much better team, than Jarry has. If no other clear, realistic, upgrade at goalie shows up, Jarry is better gamble than Stu, imo.

 

[bellagiobob]

We're 3 weeks away from there being 3 weeks remaining in the season, and he's still not practicing. Even with the most optimist projections, I just don't see any path on how he could be in game shape before the end of March.

I understand that, but none of us really know how close he is to practising with the team, that’s why I mentioned that IF he is ready at 100% with about three weeks left (I think the odds are low, but again, we aren’t in the room) then I’m not going to hold it against the player to want to play. If that was me, and I knew that I’m an elite playoff performer, and that I need a few weeks to shake the rust off, and that I know I can be a difference maker on the playoffs, then I’d want to play. Having said that, I agree that it’s doubtful.

 

[foshizzle]

I'd still prefer Gibson or Vejmelka more personally.

Me too, but anyone is better than Skinner

 

[foshizzle]

So where does this score between crazy and mad?

Let's say they decide to target Vel or Gibson to fix goaltending (not the main point of this post, just setting the stage). Neither of ANA or UTA are likely looking for a goalie in return, and with FLA moving Knight they now need a cheap backup, so I doubt you can sneak Pickard through waivers.

So if they get a new starter, would you do for Skinner for Jarry at 50%? (3 and bit years remaining at ~2.7mil)

Jarry's already in the minors, so they can continue to roll with Picks as backup, but you get a legit #3 if injuries happen. Imo this is far better than a depth chart of Gibson/Vel, Skinner, Rod/Delia.

From PITT's POV, they're going to be buying out Jarry this offseason and this move saves them a bit of money.

Hell no. That’s just a Skinner for a worse Skinner. Might as well just trade for Jack Campbell then. The oilers need an NHL goalie

 

[guymez]

So Florida (with Jones) is now a better team than last year.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I understand that, but none of us really know how close he is to practising with the team, that’s why I mentioned that IF he is ready at 100% with about three weeks left (I think the odds are low, but again, we aren’t in the room) then I’m not going to hold it against the player to want to play. If that was me, and I knew that I’m an elite playoff performer, and that I need a few weeks to shake the rust off, and that I know I can be a difference maker on the playoffs, then I’d want to play. Having said that, I agree that it’s doubtful.

We're more or less on the same wavelength, and I'm arguing over a minor thing, but it's that point of "we don't know how close he is to practicing with the team", I disagree with. We may not know how close he is, but it's safe to assume how far.


He just got back on the ice and when it's a major player in a Canadian market we'd hear whispers that they'll be in practice within a week or two. That hasn't been the case with Kane; It's a very safe bet to say he's not a week or two from rejoining the team in practice. And if that's not the case, then he is 100% out of time to expedite his return during the regular season.


Especially as this entire year the Oil have been playing it conservative on injuries. I mean, Regula has been here how long and is still on season opening LTIR?

 

[Bryanbryoil]

So Florida (with Jones) is now a better team than last year.

Maybe if Tkachuk returns. TBH I think Montour is better and OEL was good for them as well.