Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Does Bowman Make His Mark on the Team Before Training Camp?

[TB12]

Who do we lose to offer sheet next year? Jarventie? Rodrigue? We have shown we have no spine at all and let other teams come and steal from our cupboard as they wish.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

 

[CycloneSweep]

Who do we lose to offer sheet next year? Jarventie? Rodrigue? We have shown we have no spine at all and let other teams come and steal from our cupboard as they wish.

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If anything this proves to guys like Holloway that if you want to f around and sign an offer sheet just go get more money out of the team, be prepared to play somewhere else.

 

[McDNicks17]

Bob hinting someone that Knob knows well and is currently unsigned could be a PTO for us. Any ideas who?

I remember seeing something about Libor Hajek wanting to try the NHL again. 26 year old LHD. He played a few years in Hartford for Knob.

He ended up signing a contract in Czechia, but the team could use a bit of LHD depth now.

 

[TheNumber4]

I remember seeing something about Libor Hajek wanting to try the NHL again. 26 year old LHD. He played a few years in Hartford for Knob.

He ended up signing a contract in Czechia, but the team could use a bit of LHD depth now.

Interesting. Another possible candidate. I remember the name a bit but don’t know the player.

So possible guys:

Dermott
Hajek
JVR

 

[belair]

I remember seeing something about Libor Hajek wanting to try the NHL again. 26 year old LHD. He played a few years in Hartford for Knob.

He ended up signing a contract in Czechia, but the team could use a bit of LHD depth now.

If that's who Stauffer was talking about and not Dermott, I'm interested. Hajek has size, too and is known for his ability to defend.

 

[Canovin]

We don't have 4 1sts to give them. Seider is projected to come in around 9-10 million. A heck of a player.

9M costs 1st, 2nd, 3rd
10M costs two 1sts, 2nd, 3rd

 

[TheNumber4]

Flyers attempting to terminate RyJo's contract based on "material breach" is quite the story. Chicago did the same with Perry. The Sharks with Kane.

Then of course there's all the LTIR f***ery done by Chicago, Tampa, and Vegas. Oh and the Leafs.

Everywhere around the League you are seeing cutthroat moves made for the betterment of the team. And we can't even Mark Stone an actually injured Kane to help ourselves out.

 

[guymez]

I remember seeing something about Libor Hajek wanting to try the NHL again. 26 year old LHD. He played a few years in Hartford for Knob.

He ended up signing a contract in Czechia, but the team could use a bit of LHD depth now.

Wow...thats about as obscure as it gets.
Where did you hear about this player?

Edit: Just looked him up and he has bounced around between the AHL and the NHL for a few years before going to Czechia. I cant imagine he would be much better than Josh Brown.
Brown is a RHD though.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Flyers attempting to terminate RyJo's contract based on "material breach" is quite the story. Chicago did the same with Perry. The Sharks with Kane.

Then of course there's all the LTIR f***ery done by Chicago, Tampa, and Vegas. Oh and the Leafs.

Everywhere around the League you are seeing cutthroat moves made for the betterment of the team. And we can't even Mark Stone an actually injured Kane to help ourselves out.

Not the same at all. Johansen couldn't play a game after the trade, apparently due to injury.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

9M costs 1st, 2nd, 3rd
10M costs two 1sts, 2nd, 3rd

Yes, thanks.. I'm mistaken.. here's the compensation for siging an RFA

AAV	Compensation
$1 - $1,511,701	None
$1,5111,701 - $2,290,457	1 3rd-round pick
$2,290,457 - $4,580,917	1 2nd-round pick
$4,580,917 - $6,871,374	1 1st-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$6,871,374 - $9,161,834	1 1st-round pick, 1 2nd-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$9,161,834 - $11,452,294	2 1st-round picks, 1 2nd-round pick, 1 3rd-round pick
$11,452,294 or more	4 1st-round picks

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Not the same at all. Johansen couldn't play a game after the trade, apparently due to injury.

So shouldn't the repercussions go against the team that traded him to the Flyers under false pretense? I wonder why he is the one that's liable

 

[TheNumber4]

Not the same at all. Johansen couldn't play a game after the trade, apparently due to injury.

Which isn’t even a breach of contract. And yet they are trying to void the contract. Now tell me of the 6 or 7 other situations where Cap was freed up.

 

[FEDOR]

Jarred Tinordi was the name that came to my mind after the Stauffer description. Knoblauch was his HC in the AHL a few seasons back

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Jarred Tinordi was the name that came to my mind after the Stauffer description. Knoblauch was his HC in the AHL a few seasons back

Seems like he'd be a tough and cheap 3rd pairing guy if we decided to trade Kulak to open some cap.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Jarred Tinordi was the name that came to my mind after the Stauffer description. Knoblauch was his HC in the AHL a few seasons back

Tinordi can't even skate. We need someone who can make a first pass as well

 

[ThePhoenixx]

The chose Skinner and Arvidsson to be his wingers instead of Holloway and, what Perry? But don't let me get in the way of a good theory though

I did not mention Arvidsson in my post. I said Skinner.

They need someone big, strong and fast to insert on that line, IMO. Someone who can crunch a Slashov. The option to do that against the heavier teams is now limited. I may be wrong here as well, but I don't think people are going to like Skinner much against big fast teams unless he outscores his issues or changes his game from what fans of his previous teams observed.

Right now, as the lineup stands, big, fast teams are going to push them around. More than a few 6'2"+ left the Oilers roster. They were replaced with older. mostly slower 6'0 minus guys.

 

[M Ace]

This is the remaining UFA defencemen:

1. Justin Schultz
2. Kevin Shattenkirk
3. Calen Addison
4. Tyson Barrie
5. Tony DeAngelo
6. Jarred Tinordi
7. Gustav Lindström
8. Alex Goligoski
9. Mark Giordano
10. Marco Scandella
11. Nikita Zaitsev
12. Travis Dermott
13. John Klingberg
14. Marc Staal
15. Robert Bortuzzo

This is the RFA's:
1. Moritz Seider
2. Thomas Harley
3. Nikita Okhotyuk
4. Ilya Solovyov

Do we see any intresting?

I could have time for Lindström, Scandella, Dermott, Klingberg or Bortuzzo for a top for role. Or why not offersheet Seider or Harley?

Thoughts?

 

[ottawah]

For better or worse Nurse mimics the partner he is deployed with. With Larrson and VD he played a shutdown game which as you said does not suit his skill set . With Barrie and Schultz it was a puck moving or at least puck skating game. I think the reason for this is to try and compliment his partner more so than anything else. Nurse saw very little PP time once Barrie arrived though so I don’t get that statement at all.

The first year Barrie was here, Nurse had his second highest PP time per game of his career. I'm not sure how that statement can be misconstrued. The second year he was roughly tied for his third most PP time (by 2 minutes). The year before Barrie was his highest PP time. And a decently high OZ start % than with Ceci.

If you go thru the years, the ones people complain on the most are ones of lower PP time and lower OZ starts. Not really a surprise, every D man in the NHL will look worse as their minutes get harder. And not suprisingly, if he is playing more offensively minded minutes, he will play with a better offensive, i.e. puck mover, as his partner.

Evidence points to his issues being a deployment issue, not a puck moving partner issue.

 

[nabob]

This is the remaining UFA defencemen:

1. Justin Schultz
2. Kevin Shattenkirk
3. Calen Addison
4. Tyson Barrie
5. Tony DeAngelo
6. Jarred Tinordi
7. Gustav Lindström
8. Alex Goligoski
9. Mark Giordano
10. Marco Scandella
11. Nikita Zaitsev
12. Travis Dermott
13. John Klingberg
14. Marc Staal
15. Robert Bortuzzo

This is the RFA's:
1. Moritz Seider
2. Thomas Harley
3. Nikita Okhotyuk
4. Ilya Solovyov

Do we see any intresting?

I could have time for Lindström, Scandella, Dermott, Klingberg or Bortuzzo for a top for role. Or why not offersheet Seider or Harley?

Thoughts?

Not sure we have all the draft picks required to be tossing out an offer sheet lol

 

[Jumptheshark]

Not sure we have all the draft picks required to be tossing out an offer sheet lol

Nope we do not. We have to own our own, not others and they have to be from the next draft.

 

[PeteEakins]

What would it take to get Alex Vlasic out of Chicago? A shutdown defenseman if I’ve ever seen one and is an analytics darling.

Speaking of impressive defensive results on a bad team, Alex Vlasic has overtaken Seth Jones as the Blackhawks’ best blueliner. Vlasic’s combo of a 6-foot-6 frame and excellent skating is a nightmare for attackers to navigate around. He covers so much space and closes gaps exceptionally quickly with his reach and feet. The 22-year-old left-shot has logged the most minutes against “elite” competition of all Chicago defenders. Despite difficult top pair usage, Vlasic is driving the best expected goal share on the entire team (forwards included). Chicago has a near break-even goal differential during Vlasic’s minutes but has a whopping minus-73 goal differential when he’s on the bench at five-on-five.

Who are the NHL’s best shutdown defensemen and why are they so valuable?

There are plenty of elite shutdown defenders who never get a turn in the spotlight because of the focus on points.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Canovin]

What would it take to get Alex Vlasic out of Chicago? A shutdown defenseman if I’ve ever seen one and is an analytics darling.

Who are the NHL’s best shutdown defensemen and why are they so valuable?

There are plenty of elite shutdown defenders who never get a turn in the spotlight because of the focus on points.

www.nytimes.com

He just signed an extension a couple of months. I doubt they let him go

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Kneeordano didn’t retire? Yeesh. Hang ‘em up dude.

 

[FlameChampion]

Well Holloways interview he says Broberg approached him about it and doing it.

So I mean Broberg clearly wanted out.

I am surprised so many media are mad. Broberg asked for a trade already. He signed an offer sheet 3 times his worth. He conspired with a teammate to put the Oilers is an even worse spot with a second sheet so it would be even harder to match him.

And people are mad because Holland/Jackson/Bowman didn’t get this guy locked up?

The only way this might have been prevented was if Kulak was moved the previous season. But honestly who knows if it was ever preventable.

 

[LTIR]

Fabbro+Askarov for picks/prospects received from Broberg, Holloway compensation would get the management an A+ from me

Askarov+Fabbro for
Stecher+Rodrigue+ 2nd+3rd+3rd