Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Does Bowman Make His Mark on the Team Before Training Camp?

[Senor Catface]

Sorry, Star Trek joke referencing a comment made awhile ago by a local "expert" describing Kane's career as over which of course isn't accurate.

Kane actually looked good! Healthy, happy. All that.

Edit: Out of context that joke does look deceptive. Sorry guys. Unintentional.

 

[Cloned]

Sorry, Star Trek joke referencing a comment made awhile ago by a local "expert" describing Kane's career as over which of course isn't accurate.

Kane actually looked good! Healthy, happy. All that.

Edit: Out of context that joke does look deceptive. Sorry guys. Unintentional.

Hopefully he wasn’t playing like Captain Kirk when you said lady friend.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

These are the dog days of summer. No NHL news. Vacation time

 

[TheNumber4]

Is Dusty Neilson Edmontons stupidest media personality (besides Spec)?

 

[foshizzle]

Sorry, Star Trek joke referencing a comment made awhile ago by a local "expert" describing Kane's career as over which of course isn't accurate.

Kane actually looked good! Healthy, happy. All that.

Edit: Out of context that joke does look deceptive. Sorry guys. Unintentional.

Him looking happy and healthy doesn’t mean he can play NHL hockey and isn’t injured. On the human side- I’m very happy he is doing so well.

Is Dusty Neilson Edmontons stupidest media personality (besides Spec)?

Gazzola and Kassian are pretty stupid too

 

[McTedi]

Is Dusty Neilson Edmontons stupidest media personality (besides Spec)?

I've met his old running partner Will Fraser at a party, super lame dude. They are all morons. There is probably some training that goes into speaking on a radio/tv program but it really doesn't make them any more insightful than your average poster.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Is Dusty Neilson Edmontons stupidest media personality (besides Spec)?

He seems like decent dude. I enjoy their show for the most part, outside of "Hammer that thumbs up for us" every 10 mins.

 

[Sra1974]

He seems like decent dude. I enjoy their show for the most part, outside of "Hammer that thumbs up for us" every 10 mins.

Staples, and it’s not even close.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I was just looking at how the Oilers dead cap compares to other teams around the league. Oilers are carrying about 6M between buyouts and bonus overages, and most other teams are in the same range whether it’s buyouts, retained salary, bonuses or just boat anchor contracts for useless players. Some teams have also been able to stash bad cap on permanent ltir.

Nashville is carrying just under 12M in dead cap this year, Minnesota just under 15M!!

 

[LTIR]

I think his subpar regular season and playoff performances last year may signal the beginning of a decline, which should take about a milly off his projected contract value and is also something the Oilers should be wary of.

People slag on him now for being slow and lazy - wait till he's making $13.5 million dollars a year at age 37-38 - or even earlier than that. It will be fun times around here and will make the Looch (and Nurse) contracts look like bargains in comparison.

I'm not saying to trade him but at least consider these factors when negotiating.

Hmm , imagine the bashing I would have gotten had I posted the same :/

12.5M per would have been the starting point 14 the max. I am not a big Draisaitl fan but having him around gets us guys like Henrique, Arvi and Skinner on discounts so 13.8M is fine with me.

 

[Fourier]

I was just looking at how the Oilers dead cap compares to other teams around the league. Oilers are carrying about 6M between buyouts and bonus overages, and most other teams are in the same range whether it’s buyouts, retained salary, bonuses or just boat anchor contracts for useless players. Some teams have also been able to stash bad cap on permanent ltir.

Nashville is carrying just under 12M in dead cap this year, Minnesota just under 15M!!

And most of this $6M is in this year's overage. The Campbell buyout hurts for sure but going forward dead cap space should be under control.

 

[Canovin]

I was just looking at how the Oilers dead cap compares to other teams around the league. Oilers are carrying about 6M between buyouts and bonus overages, and most other teams are in the same range whether it’s buyouts, retained salary, bonuses or just boat anchor contracts for useless players. Some teams have also been able to stash bad cap on permanent ltir.

Nashville is carrying just under 12M in dead cap this year, Minnesota just under 15M!!

6M and a portion of Nurse' cap hit

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Is Dusty Neilson Edmontons stupidest media personality (besides Spec)?

He doesn’t have a clue about sports. He just says what he thinks Twitter will agree with.

His morning show on TSN was still entertaining though. I still randomly get those goal songs in my head.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

And most of this $6M is in this year's overage. The Campbell buyout hurts for sure but going forward dead cap space should be under control.

Yeah Neal comes off after this year and the worst years of Campbell at 2.3 and 2.6 line up with what should be a significant rise in the cap so should be manageable.

All things considered they’ve done a pretty good job managing their situation in an unexpected flat cap that stretched several years.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Staples, and it’s not even close.

I thought David Staples was a really nice and outgoing person lol

 

[McJadeddog]

Staples, and it’s not even close.

Spec is light years dumber than Staples. Staples at least tries to approach the game with some consistency with how they track scoring chances.

 

[Heavy Dee]

He seems like decent dude. I enjoy their show for the most part, outside of "Hammer that thumbs up for us" every 10 mins.

'let's get to 200' lol

 

[guymez]

Is Dusty Neilson Edmontons stupidest media personality (besides Spec)?

Im sure that he is a nice guy but his radio schtick is actually quite annoying IMO.
I can only tolorate it for a few minutes then I have to change the channel.

 

[FiveFourteenSixOne]

I don't understand the hate for Staples. I've had great interactions with him on social media. He always seems fair in his critiques, and he and Bruce McCurdy do a lot of hard work in tracking their scoring chance data.

I'm a big fan, and enjoy his post-game show a lot.

I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the criticism lobbed his way is due to the fact that politically he's a conservative.

 

[LTIR]

I don't understand the hate for Staples. I've had great interactions with him on social media. He always seems fair in his critiques, and he and Bruce McCurdy do a lot of hard work in tracking their scoring chance data.

I'm a big fan, and enjoy his post-game show a lot.

I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the criticism lobbed his way is due to the fact that politically he's a conservative.

I don't think anyone gives a damn about political affiliations.. some just like to have strong opinions about others.
Many hated Gregor, Bob, Michaels and even Gene with passion. some probably still do. It's only a concern if the players start disliking you ala drai and a certain person. Imagine being a reporter who plays a part in desicion making of a player when it comes to signing here long term or bolting.

 

[Duke74]

Hmm , imagine the bashing I would have gotten had I posted the same :/

12.5M per would have been the starting point 14 the max. I am not a big Draisaitl fan but having him around gets us guys like Henrique, Arvi and Skinner on discounts so 13.8M is fine with me.

I think by now people know your stance on Draisaitl so it wouldn't have come as any shock

He did regress somewhat last year, at least point-wise, which, as I was trying to explain, should help in contract negotiations. His lower regular season numbers could potentially signal a decline, and his playoff performance dropped off of a cliff after the first two rounds. Again, by pointing to the fact that he scored only three points and zero goals in the final, the Oilers can possibly justify a slightly lower contract. MacKinnon makes 12.6 and Draisaitl isn't his equal, so 12ish seems more fair for both sides.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I think by now people know your stance on Draisaitl so it wouldn't have come as any shock

He did regress somewhat last year, at least point-wise, which, as I was trying to explain, should help in contract negotiations. His lower regular season numbers could potentially signal a decline, and his playoff performance dropped off of a cliff after the first two rounds. Again, by pointing to the fact that he scored only three points and zero goals in the final, the Oilers can possibly justify a slightly lower contract. MacKinnon makes 12.6 and Draisaitl isn't his equal, so 12ish seems more fair for both sides.

Expecting Draisaitl to be 120 pts player year in and year out is ridiculous. It’s exceedingly rare for any player (in this era) to maintain that kind of output year after year, almost everyone has a down year or two over the course of his career.

Mackinnon and Draisaitl are about as equal a comparison as you can get, their regular season and playoff output is very similar over the last 5 years.

The key difference is Mackinnon signed his deal 2 years ago. Comparing AAV’s is useless, if you want to do an accurate comparison you have to compare the cap% of Mack’s contract at the time vs what the cap% of Drais contract ends up being against todays cap.

 

[grego]

McKinnon and draisaitl is at least a better comparison. I think I read a take of matthews is better than drai which I find silly.

A team would be happy to have either of McKinnon or drai on the team in the playoffs and say that gives them a edge.

Matthews in elimination games gives an opponent no fear as he seems to excel most when games don't matter

 

[McJadeddog]

I think by now people know your stance on Draisaitl so it wouldn't have come as any shock

He did regress somewhat last year, at least point-wise, which, as I was trying to explain, should help in contract negotiations. His lower regular season numbers could potentially signal a decline, and his playoff performance dropped off of a cliff after the first two rounds. Again, by pointing to the fact that he scored only three points and zero goals in the final, the Oilers can possibly justify a slightly lower contract. MacKinnon makes 12.6 and Draisaitl isn't his equal, so 12ish seems more fair for both sides.

You know he had a broken rib for all of the WCF and SCF, right? Like, Drai is a beast in the playoffs, and was again this year until he broke a rib. Yes, he is at the stage of his career where he is starting his decline, but the last 2 rounds this past season are not good stats to back that up.

 

[Juxta Position]

Sorry, Star Trek joke referencing a comment made awhile ago by a local "expert" describing Kane's career as over which of course isn't accurate.

Kane actually looked good! Healthy, happy. All that.

Edit: Out of context that joke does look deceptive. Sorry guys. Unintentional.

Great Star Trek TOS pull though....