Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Does Bowman Make His Mark on the Team Before Training Camp?

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CantHaveTkachev

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Ceci has consistently gotten exposed in the playoffs and isnt very good.

Desharnais also was terrible in the playoffs.

Broberg also was really bad when playing the right side.

Stecher would've played over all of them if he wasnt out with an infection.
Stetcher barely played in the regular season cause he's was 8th on the depth chart

dude signed for league min cause he's a #7 on team's with good defenses, now he's an NHL regular on a team trying to win the Cup
 

unicornBLOOD

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it's a horrific defense

much worse than the one that went to the Cup final
it's worse for sure, but it would be even worse with an unproven Broberg making 4.6 million per imo. My guess is they move on, and hope Nurse bounces back, hope that one or two of Emberson, Stetcher, Brown or one of the guys on the farm Gleason, Wanner, Kemp, etc. step up and find a fit with this D core, at least until they find the right upgrade at some point during the season or at the deadline. It's far from ideal, but it's the situation that they now find themselves in. The Oilers are as strong or stronger than any team in the league when it comes to forward talent and depth, they are going to have to lean on that strength until they can upgrade their D.
 

Tobias Kahun

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Stetcher barely played in the regular season cause he's was 8th on the depth chart

dude signed for league min cause he's a #7 on team's with good defenses, now he's an NHL regular on a team trying to win the Cup
Broberg played 5 more games for the oilers in the regular season than Stecher, and he was in the organization the whole year.

Stecher also had better results in those 7 games than Broberg did in the 12.
 

CantHaveTkachev

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Broberg played 5 more games for the oilers in the regular season than Stecher, and he was in the organization the whole year.

Stecher also had better results in those 7 games than Broberg did in the 12.
Stetcher is a career depth d-man that hasn't hit 20 point in 5 seasons
expecting him to come in and be anything more than a #7 is foolish

I'll take my chances with a 23 year old just starting his NHL career
 
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Stetcher is a career depth d-man that hasn't hit 20 point in 5 seasons
expecting him to come in and be anything more than a #7 is foolish

I'll take my chances with a 23 year old just starting his NHL career
at 3.9m more a year?

Thats a stupid chance to take.

Very good chance Stecher plays ahead of broberg if hes healthy in the playoffs too.
 

unicornBLOOD

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lol all right then wait and see


So your cool going into the season with a second pair of

Nurse - Emberson/Brown/Stecher?
not really, but I'm also not cool with going into the season with a young and unproven, untradable (for 1 year) Broberg @4.6 million per, playing his off side, with a partner (Nurse) coming off his worst season in over 5 years. Both options are less than ideal, I just don't think they can gamble on that Broberg with that cap hit, and no trade option.
 

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Stetcher in top 4 is bad
it's clear the Oilers biggest hole/need/weakness is a 2nd pairing RD. it's going to need to be addressed and filled and upgraded at some point this year. The chances that the they have the answer on this team already in one of of Emberson/Stetcher/Brown/Wanner/Kemp/Gleason/Dineen is EXTREMELY unlikely.
 

CantHaveTkachev

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it's clear the Oilers biggest hole/need/weakness is a 2nd pairing RD. it's going to need to be addressed and filled and upgraded at some point this year. The chances that the they have the answer on this team already in one of of Emberson/Stetcher/Brown/Wanner/Kemp/Gleason/Dineen is EXTREMELY unlikely.
which makes trading Ceci right now baffling...yes, he was bad and eventually needed to go
but they made the defense worse in the name of "capspace" (if they don't match)
 
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which makes trading Ceci right now baffling...yes, he was bad and eventually needed to go
but they made the defense worse in the name of "capspace" (if they don't match)
not really, the move does help the Oilers, it was clear Ceci was not the right right to be Nurse's D partner at this point. It clears up cap space, enough to give the Oilers options - the option to match on one of or both of the offer sheets in combination with Kane on LTIR and a player being sent down or - the option to start the season under the cap, not in over in LTIR and to start gaining cap space until the find the right opportunity to add the upgrade at 2nd pairing RD. While, at the same time adding a 24 year old, RH D, who while unproven, had solid numbers in a small sample size last year on a bad SJ team, who also has a history with the Coach Knoblock. To me, it was a smart first step, that is a temporary solution until they can fix it properly at some point during the season.
 

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Does anyone know who are the big names dman who are a UFA after this season, Because maybe that's what they plan on doing at the trade deadline with the extra accumulated cap space and Blues picks
 
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which makes trading Ceci right now baffling...yes, he was bad and eventually needed to go
but they made the defense worse in the name of "capspace" (if they don't match)
It’s a good thing the season doesn’t start tomorrow, they’ll have time to try and get another D with that “capspace”
 

Kolja

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I think the writing is on the wall:

Podkolzin is here to replace Holloway
Emberson is here to replace Broberg
We add a 2nd and some room for a deadline upgrade on D.

That is it.
 

Oilhawks

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Maybe there is some steam to the Rasmus Andersson rumor?

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I dunno, as much as I've been able to welcome formerly hated players like Kassian, Perry, Kane etc of late, Rat-mouse would be a tough one to warm up to. Must be the fLames stink
 

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Stetcher barely played in the regular season cause he's was 8th on the depth chart

dude signed for league min cause he's a #7 on team's with good defenses, now he's an NHL regular on a team trying to win the Cup
And x2 with Josh Brown x3 to create poison pill deals to prevent waiver wire claims. Quite likely these two yo yo between Edmonton and Bakersfield. Though the way they're clearing out legitimate NHL defenders, they might be big minute guys like the good old non-playoff teams they came in from.
 
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Maybe there is some steam to the Rasmus Andersson rumor?
Pretty sure that was idle speculation by a known bullshitter. Have to think there would be a strong market if a greasy 50 point, .44 career avg, 21 minute toi, age 27 right shot d-man hit the market. Calgary trading him to Edmonton or the Oilers being able to scratch together best offer with their 2nd & 3rd pick gold rush from St. Louis is sketchy.
 
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And x2 with Josh Brown x3 to create poison pill deals to prevent waiver wire claims.
100 % correct. I feel that's exactly why they gave extra term to a couple of tweener dmen. It was just a little insurance policy to help out with our lack of salary cap space injuries and the uncertainty of the bottom half of our Dcore. Jackson is far from an idiot.
 
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Bryanbryoil

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Pretty sure that was idle speculation by a known bullshitter. Have to think there would be a strong market if a greasy 50 point, .44 career avg, 21 minute toi, age 27 right shot d-man hit the market. Calgary trading him to Edmonton or the Oilers being able to scratch together best offer with their 2nd & 3rd pick gold rush from St. Louis is sketchy.
Our 1st, 2nd and 3rd + Akey or Wanner for Ratmouse?
 

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which makes trading Ceci right now baffling...yes, he was bad and eventually needed to go
but they made the defense worse in the name of "capspace" (if they don't match)
They didn’t make the defense worse in the name of cap space.

They made the defense worse in the name of cap compliance. There is a distinct difference.
 

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100 % correct. I feel that's exactly why they gave extra term to a couple of tweener dmen. It was just a little insurance policy to help out with our lack of salary cap space injuries and the uncertainty of the bottom half of our Dcore. Jackson is far from an idiot.
For sure, reasonable deals and thought behind them made sense when it looked like they were building up 3RD depth with two different player types and roles. Ease Desharnais size loss with Brown and Stetcher is a game small defender at end of roster.
 

unicornBLOOD

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Pretty sure that was idle speculation by a known bullshitter. Have to think there would be a strong market if a greasy 50 point, .44 career avg, 21 minute toi, age 27 right shot d-man hit the market. Calgary trading him to Edmonton or the Oilers being able to scratch together best offer with their 2nd & 3rd pick gold rush from St. Louis is sketchy.
no doubt, if we're talking futures (picks and prospects), I'm not sure Edmonton even has enough to land him. With us already owing one of next 2 first rounders because we traded up into the first round this year, our lack of prospects, and the need and demand around the league for quality, puck moving, top 4 RHD, even if we were to put Savoie in a package, I feel another team would be able to outbid us. That isn't even taking into account, that this Edmonton and Calgary, which may or may not matter, but it won't help that's for sure.
 
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