Rumor: Rumors & Proposals: "Looking for a trade to happen, making stops along the way."

[Zerotonine]

Nuge is the same age as Hyman and there is no proof that players like Nuge age better. Both him and Hyman are wingers who will be 3rd liners very soon.

But at least with Hyman, it's someone new to try out with McDavid. RNH is awful with McDavid. Our team views chemistry with McDavid as a major factor in all its decisions. Personally if I had to pick who gets the awful contract, it is Hyman, not RNH

So you want to throw 5 mill per year or so at a guy In hopes he gels with mcdavid? Amd what of he doesn't ? Another anchor contract

Sure nuge doesn't work with mcfavid, but he does pretty damn good with Leon. That's were you spend the money simple

Target someone for mcdavid who can shoot the puck, Ala Hoffman type player

 

[Zerotonine]

Also can't wait for Hall to sign any extension any were but here long term so people will stop talking about him

 

[RandomGuy79]

Too bad we didn't target Toffoli last season

 

[Spawn]

Those aren't really great reasons lmao. But, if he's a #1 Dman like some of you guys think on here, wouldn't Carolina try with all their might to resign him?

Go take a look at Stromes points... Other than this season, where do you see bust?

If Strome wasn't a bust why did Arizona trade him after fewer than 50 games and why is Chicago looking to dump him now?

You're quite selective in applying your logic.

 

[McAsuno]

Those aren't really great reasons lmao. But, if he's a #1 Dman like some of you guys think on here, wouldn't Carolina try with all their might to resign him?

Hamilton's a legit top pairing d man whom would be easily the Oilers best dman. If Carolina's dumb enough to let him go, a lot of teams (oilers should as well) will pursue him.

 

[belair]

If Strome wasn't a bust why did Arizona trade him after fewer than 50 games and why is Chicago looking to dump him now?

You're quite selective in applying your logic.

Strome is a low-end depth scoring winger. Put him in a position to succeed with a quality skill player and he's got the skill to compliment them.

Arizona traded him because they never owned that player to elevate his game. They've been a lineup of vanilla forwards for quite some time. Chicago? Who knows? They had the key to maximizing his scoring potential, then they lost it.

I wouldn't trade a lot for him. Wouldn't trade a lot for Debrusk either. But these are the types of buy-low options that could allow Holland to address all of his roster weaknesses over the summer.

 

[Why]

Haven't read through everything here (who are we kidding, yes I have) DeBrusk and Strome are going to be the players this board talks crap about all summer just to see them bounce back on new teams. We do it every single year. Honestly I'd love both here price dependent

 

[Faelko]

Those aren't really great reasons lmao. But, if he's a #1 Dman like some of you guys think on here, wouldn't Carolina try with all their might to resign him?

It’s better than your reason he isn’t good because of how many teams he’s played for…lol

 

[Anarchism]

Strome is a low-end depth scoring winger. Put him in a position to succeed with a quality skill player and is are, he's got the skill to compliment them.

Arizona traded him because they never owned that player to elevate his game. They've been a lineup of vanilla forwards for quite sometime. Chicago? Who knows? They had the key to maximizing his scoring potential, then they lost it.

I wouldn't trade a lot for him. Wouldn't trade a lot for Debrusk either. But these are the types of buy-low options that could allow Holland to address all of his roster weaknesses over the summer.

Chicago didnt lose anything. Strome failed miserably between two of the top wingers in the league. Committing 3 mil to a likely failure is NOT what we should do.

 

[Mr Positive]

So you want to throw 5 mill per year or so at a guy I'm hopes he gels with mcdavid? Amd what of he doesn't ? Another anchor contract

Sure nuge doesn't work with mcfavid, but he does pretty damn good with Leon. That's were you spend the money simple

Target someone for mcdavid who can shoot the puck, Ala Hoffman type player

That's my preference too. I did phrase it like "if I had to pick who to get the awful contract", lol. I'd rather we skip both of them.

 

[McTonyBrar]

If Carolina lets him go they are going to find out real soon how bad stripping that many points from your back end will do for your record. If Slavin is your leading point scorer for defense you're in trouble.

They have more than just Slavin

 

[belair]

Chicago didnt lose anything. Strome failed miserably between two of the top wingers in the league. Committing 3 mil to a likely failure is NOT what we should do.

Maybe playing the middle between two offensive drivers requires the player to play a more passive offensive game. There's more context required here, because a player with zero offensive ability doesn't score 50 points in a 60 game stretch by accident.

We're not looking for offensive drivers as scoring wingers. We need players with a high level of skill that can compliment the guys we already have in our top six. The more important upgrades to this roster need to be made in the bottom six, where the team gets routinely massacred.

 

[McTonyBrar]

If Strome wasn't a bust why did Arizona trade him after fewer than 50 games and why is Chicago looking to dump him now?

You're quite selective in applying your logic.

Because maybe they want to trade him? No doubt he has some problems (skating, laziness, inconsistency) but that doesn't mean he has no positives. He'd be cheaper to acquire as well and, based on his points, he's not a bust. He hasn't lived up to his hype. And why did you quote Dougie Hamilton?

 

[belair]

If Carolina lets him go they are going to find out real soon how bad stripping that many points from your back end will do for your record. If Slavin is your leading point scorer for defense you're in trouble.

They should just sign Barrie for the $3m less he's likely to get if the plan is to run him with Slavin.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Hamilton's a legit top pairing d man whom would be easily the Oilers best dman. If Carolina's dumb enough to let him go, a lot of teams (oilers should as well) will pursue him.

Oilers won't be pursuing him. Why would Dougie want to come back to Alberta? If we get him, I'll be ecstatic but it also means, for another year, Bouchard won't be playing. That's not something I'd want to do. Friedman has said we will look at our Defence. But, I think we will look at a LHD

 

[McTonyBrar]

It’s better than your reason he isn’t good because of how many teams he’s played for…lol

So that's not true? IT's not odd that 3 teams have let him go even after some very good seasons? I can't say much on Hamilton since I don't see him play much. I'll be happy if we get him but Canes fans really hate him (which is what I'm scared of )

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

For people saying our experiments from other teams have never worked...

Kassian? Maroon? Barrie?

All recent examples of players that we saw excelling more in our environment.

Dylan Strome honestly reminds me of his brother. Dominant junior players, some good early NHL seasons, but adapting to the fact that they can't dominate at this level, so they reconfigure their game.

We are wishing badly we had been patient with Ryan.

I'd absolutely buy low on Dylan.

 

[McDrai]

Looking at the teams that are left in these playoffs, you can see that Defenders need to be big and be able to clear the crease. We have 2 defensemen in Nurse and Larsson who are good at this. Bouchard is good size too but not very physical (although I'm sure he can develop a bit of nasty in his game).

Oleksiak would be a great add. Absolute unit who can clear the crease and hold the fort on that 2nd pairing. If we have Nurse on 1st pairing, Oleksiak on the 2nd pairing, and Larsson on the 3rd pairing, we will have at least one dman on the ice at all times who is capable of clearing the crease.

This is how I see the pairings assuming that we sign Oleksiak:

Nurse-Bouchard
Oleksiak-Bear
XXXXX-Larsson

Nurse carried Barrie this past season and can do the same with Bouchard (who is probably not as much of a defensive liability as Barrie)

Oleksiak and Bear is the perfect mix as you have a big shut down dman who can clear the crease and a small puck mover.

Larsson needs a puck mover on his pairing. I'm not a fan of a pairing with 2 stay at home dmen as the exit strategy is pretty much rim it around the boards. Might have to find a puck moving LD in free agency as Samorukov/Broberg are likely not ready.

 

[belair]

How does OEL's numbers compare to Barrie's over the last couple of seasons? Genuinely curious.

Really good question. Should the Oilers be interested, odds are he's being utilized in a similar manner to Klefbom. Only now that role is clearly behind Darnell Nurse, who sees very little powerplay time.

Barrie's shot volume and icetime have never dipped to the low point OEL's did this season, but it seems OEL got the shaft in terms of who he got to play with for much of this season, seeing a lot of middle-six forwards and Demers as a regular partner.

 

[Chabot84]

One name I'm liking as a Nuge replacement is Tierney.

Seems like he's on the outs with Sens fans, and while he is bland AF, for 3.5 mil he'll likely cover a lot of the roles RNH brought this past season: look like a functional passenger on the LW with McDavid or Drai, or centre a line that doesn't get caved defensively (nor create a ton offensively) when McDrai are together. It kooks like the hopeful asking price is a mid-round pick, so something like Marody/Kahun/Jones and a 3rd or 4th could cover the spread.

My hope would be to get something like him and say Rekall (even if he costs you a first), which would add two top 6'ers for nearly the same price as RNH and Kahun this season.

Then round out the forwards by signing a defensive 4th line centre like Sheahan, Zajac, Sutter, Glendening, Richardson, Thompson, Nash; or Bonino or Cizikas if you're willing to spend a little more. (or add someone like Grant into the Rakell trade... Basically there's a lot in the way of options out there).


Tierney-McDavid-Puljujarvi
Rakell-Draisaitl-Yamamoto
Benson-McLeod-Neal
Kassian-Sheahan-Archibald

Keep RNH and get Tierney for 3C

I’m game for that

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I’d be much more interested in Comtois than Rakell if we are trading for a winger from Anaheim.

Young power forward with size and a scoring touch. He hasn’t broken out yet so he’s be relatively cheap (probably a 1st if I had to guess similar to the Hartman deal). I’m not impressed by Rakell and he has no term. I’d take the younger hard nosed player over the small skill guy. Comtois could be a really good complimentary player for McDavid.

If the Eichel to Anaheim rumors are true, they’re going to want to load up on futures they can deal in order to keep Zegras/Drysdale off the table. Our 1st + a good prospect (not Holloway/Broberg) would be of value for that reason.

 

[GOilers88]

Not that I wouldn't like him on the team, but I find it interesting how many think they need to add another big money #1 guy when we have Nurse who appears to be taking that role and will require a solid raise.

Wouldn't it be better to shoot for a reliable, less expensive 2/3 guy to help spread money around other places? Would having almost 40 million in 2 forwards and 2 defensemen be cost efficient?

Or are the Dougie Hamilton's and Seth Jones' just that damn good enough to be worth it anyways? Honest question.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Wrong thread

 

[CycloneSweep]

Looking at the teams that are left in these playoffs, you can see that Defenders need to be big and be able to clear the crease. We have 2 defensemen in Nurse and Larsson who are good at this. Bouchard is good size too but not very physical (although I'm sure he can develop a bit of nasty in his game).

Oleksiak would be a great add. Absolute unit who can clear the crease and hold the fort on that 2nd pairing. If we have Nurse on 1st pairing, Oleksiak on the 2nd pairing, and Larsson on the 3rd pairing, we will have at least one dman on the ice at all times who is capable of clearing the crease.

This is how I see the pairings assuming that we sign Oleksiak:

Nurse-Bouchard
Oleksiak-Bear
XXXXX-Larsson

Nurse carried Barrie this past season and can do the same with Bouchard (who is probably not as much of a defensive liability as Barrie)

Oleksiak and Bear is the perfect mix as you have a big shut down dman who can clear the crease and a small puck mover.

Larsson needs a puck mover on his pairing. I'm not a fan of a pairing with 2 stay at home dmen as the exit strategy is pretty much rim it around the boards. Might have to find a puck moving LD in free agency as Samorukov/Broberg are likely not ready.

You don't necessarily need guys who can clear the crease and be physical, but you really need bigger defenders. Imo smaller defenders wear down to quick in grinding playoff games.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Keep RNH and get Tierney for 3C

I’m game for that

RNH I'm lukewarm on (as I said, give me a RHS sniper). But you touched on the other reason I liked Tierney: if McLeod struggles at centre, then it's super easy to move him to wing and move Tierney to centre, while giving Benson or Holloway a shot at the top 6. (or in a more optimistic situation, one of those two earns their way into the top 6).

I'm also of the opinion you can run Kassian in the top 6, so long as... A) he has someone else that he can cycle with (so Drai or Pulju); And B) he's clearly the 3rd wheel on a line and in the Maroon role. The reason I like this idea, is it lets you run Yamamoto on the 3rd line, which helps the offence in the bottom 6. Using (mostly) the same names I had before you could also have...


Benson-McDavid-Puljujarvi
Rakell-Draisaitl-Kassian
Holloway-Tierney-Yams
McLeod-Sheahan-Archibald