OT: Rsu?

[PoutineSp00nZ]

It isn't one's own moral code. When you are with friends, and by yourself it is perfectly fine. When you are around others it should not be fine. There is a reason movies are rated for language, and schools, employers, etc. do not allow language. It is based on the premise that it should not be taught to young children and adolescents, and not used in civilized/professional environments. I'm of the opinion that you should act accordingly when in a public environment, which a sporting stadium certainly is. You get tossed for using excessive language in excess in the stadium where I live.

That's an opinion and it reflects personal morals. It's not divine law, or even real law.

Expecting others to behave due to our own morals, ideas and codes of behaviour is what i have an issue with. When nobody is getting hurt, who cares?

Getting into why movies have ratings, it goes deeper then that. Here is a link to a documentary about a certain word and the history of censorship, its actually quite interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEZTvjQqf-Q . People hide behind children all the team as a means of projecting their viewpoints on the rest of us. Its up to the parent to teach their child about their morals and ethics, not the rest of society.

 

[Caje]

Its also an event where young men go and get drunk. Perhaps if you don't want your family to hear it you should keep them at home. Or perhaps just stop caring and enjoy the game

You really think the team should cater to drunken idiots over families with small children? Give me a break.

You're just being a contrarian.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

You really think the team should cater to drunken idiots over families with small children? Give me a break.

You're just being a contrarian.

Im not saying that at all, I think families have every right to go to a game. I also believe that other people have every right to say whatever they want when they buy tickets to go to a game. What I don't want is for the team, or society in general to further cater to a group of people who want to control the behaviour of others, and use their children as justification for it.

 

[Qward]

That's an opinion and it reflects personal morals. It's not divine law, or even real law.

Expecting others to behave due to our own morals, ideas and codes of behaviour is what i have an issue with. When nobody is getting hurt, who cares?

Getting into why movies have ratings, it goes deeper then that. Here is a link to a documentary about a certain word and the history of censorship, its actually quite interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEZTvjQqf-Q . People hide behind children all the team as a means of projecting their viewpoints on the rest of us. Its up to the parent to teach their child about their morals and ethics, not the rest of society.

You sure about that?

Causing disturbance, indecent exhibition, loitering, etc.
175. (1) Every one who

(a) not being in a dwelling-house, causes a disturbance in or near a public place,

(i) by fighting, screaming, shouting, swearing, singing or using insulting or obscene language,
(ii) by being drunk, or
(iii) by impeding or molesting other persons,

(b) openly exposes or exhibits an indecent exhibition in a public place,
(c) loiters in a public place and in any way obstructs persons who are in that place, or
(d) disturbs the peace and quiet of the occupants of a dwelling-house by discharging firearms or by other disorderly conduct in a public place or who, not being an occupant of a dwelling-house comprised in a particular building or structure, disturbs the peace and quiet of the occupants of a dwelling-house comprised in the building or structure by discharging firearms or by other disorderly conduct in any part of a building or structure to which, at the time of such conduct, the occupants of two or more dwelling-houses comprised in the building or structure have access as of right or by invitation, express or implied,

is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

You sure about that?

There is also a law banning spitting in Kanata. You expect them to enforce that too?

 

[Qward]

There is also a law banning spitting in Kanata. You expect them to enforce that too?

That is a bylaw. Bylaws are only punishable by a fine or ticket.

The section of the criminal code act I quoted can result in fine/parole/community service/jail time/criminal record.

When you go for a job and they do a back check, your spitting fine won't show up, but you can believe getting arrested for causing a disturbance will.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

That is a bylaw. Bylaws are only punishable by a fine or ticket.

The section of the criminal code act I quoted can result in fine/parole/community service/jail time/criminal record.

When you go for a job and they do a back check, your spitting fine won't show up, but you can believe getting arrested for causing a disturbance will.

There are laws they enforce, and laws they don't within reason. Did all of RSU get arrested for chanting **** u Heatley?

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

You sure about that?

By nature, there's a lot more lenience given in a sports arena. I'm still of the opinion that if a parent doesn't want their kid exposed to that kind of behaviour, they're by no means obligated to bring them. And if they choose to bring their kid anyway, other patrons are by no means obligated to alter their behaviours. Most will do it anyway as a courtesy, but that doesn't mean your will trumps theirs.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

By nature, there's a lot more lenience given in a sports arena. I'm still of the opinion that if a parent doesn't want their kid exposed to that kind of behaviour, they're by no means obligated to bring them. And if they choose to bring their kid anyway, other patrons are by no means obligated to alter their behaviours. Most will do it anyway as a courtesy, but that doesn't mean your will trumps theirs.

Thank you.

The funny thing is, im not even the kind of guy to engage in the behaviour im defending. I'll let slip an fbomb here and there, but screaming it in front of legions of strangers isn't how i roll.

 

[Benjamin]

Not caring about swearing around kids is as classless and babyish as Heatley was.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Not caring about swearing around kids is as classless and babyish as Heatley was.

Fantastic

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Thank you.

The funny thing is, im not even the kind of guy to engage in the behaviour im defending. I'll let slip an fbomb here and there, but screaming it in front of legions of strangers isn't how i roll.

Same here. I'd never do it, but I'll defend to the death someone's right to do it.

Not caring about swearing around kids is as classless and babyish as Heatley was.

Classiness and childishness aside, it's still not your call — or anyone's but the individuals — to decide whether they'll do it or not.

 

[BondraTime]

Same here. I'd never do it, but I'll defend to the death someone's right to do it.

Classiness and childishness aside, it's still not your call — or anyone's but the individuals — to decide whether they'll do it or not.

The old "right to bare arms" defence

 

[Mr Invidious]

If a parent does their job as a parent by teaching their child that there are certain words that are inappropriate and should not be said, that's as much as you can do.

Swearing at a sporting event is right next to death and taxes.

 

[Mr Invidious]

The old "right to bare arms" defence

Owning a firearm that can kill someone =/= a non-discriminatory word.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

The old "right to bare arms" defence

Well, first off, it's "right to bear arms." Secondly, no. The difference here is that swear words don't kill people.

Come on. If you're going to take an argument to an extreme at least make it SOMEWHAT valid.

 

[Benjamin]

Swearing has no benefit but can ruin the atmosphere for a family and takes away from the game. Not swearing is the nice thing to do. Swearing is the ****** bag thing to do.

My parents were so anti-swearing that if we were around people swearing we would have to leave.

 

[BondraTime]

Well, first off, it's "right to bear arms." Secondly, no. The difference here is that swear words don't kill people.

Come on. If you're going to take an argument to an extreme at least make it SOMEWHAT valid.

Spelling mistakes aside, it's the same argument. Obviously it's to an extreme, I was making a point. If it weren't valid there wouldn't be laws and stipulations about them in the majority of civilization. If you are in a McDonalds, and start swearing in excess, you will have the cops called on you. Same goes for a mall, department store, government building, many sporting venues, restauraunts, work environments, etc.. I'm sure the stance "I don't mind these words, they are only words why does it matter" will hold there.

 

[Mr Invidious]

Swearing has no benefit but can ruin the atmosphere for a family and takes away from the game. Not swearing is the nice thing to do. Swearing is the ****** bag thing to do.

My parents were so anti-swearing that if we were around people swearing we would have to leave.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Unfortunately, not everyone has the same opinion.

People will always swear at sporting events. Always. You take something incredibly competitive and you add a group mentality along with excessive amounts of alcohol and voila!

I don't swear (loudly) at games myself, although I do quite a bit of chirping, but I'm not going to expect others to watch their mouths. I think it's unreasonable to expect such a thing.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Spelling mistakes aside, it's the same argument. Obviously it's to an extreme, I was making a point. If it weren't valid there wouldn't be laws and stipulations about them in the majority of civilization. If you are in a McDonalds, and start swearing in excess, you will have the cops called on you. Same goes for a mall, department store, government building, many sporting venues, restauraunts, work environments, etc.. I'm sure the stance "I don't mind these words, they are only words why does it matter" will hold there.

Right. Very context sensitive. But it's not like I'm advocating going to a restaurant, work environment, etc. and dropping an F-bomb. This is a massive sporting arena where tensions, tempers and adrenaline run high. Swearing comes with the territory — although, as I said, most people will avoid swearing around kids as a courtesy. But expecting others to stop behaviours because it offends your personal sensibilities is egotistical to the max.

 

[Inf4mous0ne]

I think this has gotten really off topic lol

 

[BondraTime]

Right. Very context sensitive. But it's not like I'm advocating going to a restaurant, work environment, etc. and dropping an F-bomb. This is a massive sporting arena where tensions, tempers and adrenaline run high. Swearing comes with the territory — although, as I said, most people will avoid swearing around kids as a courtesy. But expecting others to stop behaviours because it offends your personal sensibilities is egotistical to the max.

I understand and agree wholeheartedly. There will be many curse words yelled and screamed at a game. It's the nature of the game when it comes to hits, big saves goals. It's a reactionary thing from teenagers, adults and kids alike. I have no problem with that.

I don't think it is egotistical at all. Egotistical would be thinking that you are above the words and anyone whom uses them are wrong and foolish. When some asshat (here is me doing the same thing on a smaller podium) starts a chant during a play stoppage, yelling at the top of his lungs and cursing because he had 1 too many Molsons, he is embarrassing himself and taking away from the experience.

 

[Benjamin]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Unfortunately, not everyone has the same opinion.

People will always swear at sporting events. Always. You take something incredibly competitive and you add a group mentality along with excessive amounts of alcohol and voila!

I don't swear (loudly) at games myself, although I do quite a bit of chirping, but I'm not going to expect others to watch their mouths. I think it's unreasonable to expect such a thing.

Yup. I never cared as a kid but my parents thought it was the worst thing in the world. So im guessing lots of familys are like that.

Just such an easy thing not to do for the sake of a family just trying to enjoy a game.

 

[Caeldan]

The old "right to bare arms" defence

Suns Out Guns Out I say!

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Swearing has no benefit but can ruin the atmosphere for a family and takes away from the game. Not swearing is the nice thing to do. Swearing is the ****** bag thing to do.

My parents were so anti-swearing that if we were around people swearing we would have to leave.

Ironically enough, the post condemning swearing contains swearing.

While I don't agree with your parents stance, i much prefer that to someone complaining about this kind of thing endlessly, and expecting others to change their behaviour