Post-Game Talk: Round 3, Game 2: Can the Rangers break the streak?????

[SnowblindNYR]

My point could not have been much clearer. I agree that Hank is part of the team. I merely pointed out that if you switched goalies, it is a dominating victory for Montreal. Do you disagree?

One goalie played great and the other didn't.

The idea that Takarski (sp?) played poorly is completely overblown. He gave up 1 questionable goal and even that he had to move side to side and Nash got it off right away. Otherwise, he was screened on a perfect one timer by MSL and was beaten by a fluke.

 

[aufheben]

Tokarski was coming out of that game either as a scapegoat or a hero.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

The idea that Takarski (sp?) played poorly is completely overblown. He gave up 1 questionable goal and even that he had to move side to side and Nash got it off right away. Otherwise, he was screened on a perfect one timer by MSL and was beaten by a fluke.

Just like Hank was.

All these BUT BUT BUT. Series is 2-0. That simple.

 

[slipknottin]

My point could not have been much clearer. I agree that Hank is part of the team. I merely pointed out that if you switched goalies, it is a dominating victory for Montreal. Do you disagree?

One goalie played great and the other didn't.

You can't switch guys in your head and tell what happens. That's why they play the game.

Pretty amusing that Habs fans are in here whining that the rangers have better goaltending than they do.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Tokarski was coming out of that game either as a scapegoat or a hero.

He should be neither. He played average, not great, not poorly, but average. I can easily see Hank getting beat, even in this game by 2 of those goals and in an average game for him, by all 3. Hank just upstaged him.

 

[Tawnos]

Great article. There's a fantastic point in there about the Rangers alignment on defensive zone draws.

Systems Analyst: How the Rangers used the Canadiens forecheck against them

But the rush aside, this is a play that was drawn up by Alain Vigneault to counter what appears to be the Habs’ aggressive lost-draw forecheck. They simply let the forecheckers in, and then whipped the puck by them.

 

[aufheben]

Great article. There's a fantastic point in there about the Rangers alignment on defensive zone draws.

Systems Analyst: How the Rangers used the Canadiens forecheck against them

Stepan can only win a face-off when the other team intentionally loses it.

 

[Clown Fiesta]

Every time that team makes the playoffs it's always "1993" again.

 

[Tawnos]

Stepan can only win a face-off when the other team intentionally loses it.

They do it out of sympathy. As in... "oh, poor guy. Can't win a draw. Let's just let him have this one."

 

[trilobyte]

Montreal is trying to transition to their next goaltender in the wings. I don't really blame Therrien for picking Tokarski for game 2. If he is smart he will pick him for game 3 as well.
Tokarski was slow on Nash's goal. Most NHL goalies would have got that one. He played well after that. Nothing against Budaj, but what makes him so great. Some nights he doesn't look all that good.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Great article. There's a fantastic point in there about the Rangers alignment on defensive zone draws.

Systems Analyst: How the Rangers used the Canadiens forecheck against them

I click on it but I get a blank page.

 

[Hockey Team]

The one lundqvist let in was less of a fluke then the ass goal we had a few seconds after. That was a failed clear that led to the goal. There's no reason that puck should've still been in the zone.

 

[trilobyte]

The one lundqvist let in was less of a fluke then the ass goal we had a few seconds after. That was a failed clear that led to the goal. There's no reason that puck should've still been in the zone.

The Rangers were spending way too much time with the puck on their stick. The Habs just came up and took the puck, quite a few times.
One thing that helped the Rangers turn around the series with the Penguins was faster puck movement, obviously with teammates there to receive the puck, and pass it on.

In the first period of Game 2, the Rangers were pretty slow with the puck in their own zone. They got better, and the Habs had blown their load by close to end of the first period.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

The one lundqvist let in was less of a fluke then the ass goal we had a few seconds after. That was a failed clear that led to the goal. There's no reason that puck should've still been in the zone.

Not sure what difference is what's more or what's more of a fluke. Also are you trying to say that the Habs not clearing the puck meant the play more fluky?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

The Rangers were spending way too much time with the puck on their stick. The Habs just came up and took the puck, quite a few times.
One thing that helped the Rangers turn around the series with the Penguins was faster puck movement, obviously with teammates there to receive the puck, and pass it on.

In the first period of Game 2, the Rangers were pretty slow with the puck in their own zone. They got better, and the Habs had blown their load by close to end of the first period.

Honestly, we took the best punch they had and counterpunched and won. It was unreasonable to not expect a bad period in this series. Montreal made it to the ECF too.

 

[Hockey Team]

Not sure what difference is what's more or what's more of a fluke. Also are you trying to say that the Habs not clearing the puck meant the play more fluky?

What I mean is the goal against is more of a result of our team's poor play / misplay then just a fluke goal.

If you let the puck bounce around in your own zone long enough sooner or later it's going to end up in the net.

 

[Raspewtin]

My point could not have been much clearer. I agree that Hank is part of the team. I merely pointed out that if you switched goalies, it is a dominating victory for Montreal. Do you disagree?

One goalie played great and the other didn't.

I do disagree, because the only Montreal dominance I saw was the first 15 minutes, and the last 5 minutes.

 

[Holocene]

I do disagree, because the only Montreal dominance I saw was the first 15 minutes, and the last 5 minutes.

I agree. We were in complete control of the game in the second and a majority of the 3rd. Defensively, they shut it down. We are playing an elite defensive game as well as getting elite goaltending right now, it's beautiful to watch!

 

[trilobyte]

Honestly, we took the best punch they had and counterpunched and won. It was unreasonable to not expect a bad period in this series. Montreal made it to the ECF too.

I totally agree. In the GDT, early on in the first period when they were having so much trouble, I stated they would be okay. Every team has a personality, and I had seen this before.

My comments were specifically aimed at the first period, and what I saw. I could watch Game 2 again, and I would make the exact same comment about how slow the Rangers were with the puck in the first period, and the Habs simply taking it from them.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

What I mean is the goal against is more of a result of our team's poor play / misplay then just a fluke goal.

If you let the puck bounce around in your own zone long enough sooner or later it's going to end up in the net.

Well Montreal turned it over on our goal too. Also, the puck was bouncing all over the place, there's a reason it looked like he was a 5 year old with a grenade on his stick.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

I love how people argue about the price injury, goals, and who had possession like it matters... The series is 2-0 non of their whining is going to change it. And u can't blame it on 1 player, it's a team sport

 

[Brock Boeser]

Canuck fan all aboard the bandwagon! Let's go AV!

Quick question to all ranger fans, how has Marc Staal been since his injury to his eye? He was highly touted but he has been low key ever since.
Thanks!

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Canuck fan all aboard the bandwagon! Let's go AV!

Quick question to all ranger fans, how has Marc Staal been since his injury to his eye? He was highly touted but he has been low key ever since.
Thanks!

It took him a while but he's back to playing as good as before. He doesn't get much media attention because he's a LHD behind Ryan Mcdonagh. His contract has 1 more yr left so plenty of rumors around including him going to the Carolina Staal's... U kno get all the brothers on one team

 

[chosen]

A goalie can be great in a game without having to make 40 miraculous saves. I guess YOUR true beliefs are surfacing. I guess in order to rise up Lundqvist you have to exaggerate how the ****** the team was. The Rangers sucked in the first and could have given up 3 or 4 goals in the first, but after that they gave up a lot of shots and Lundqvist was consistent and solid, but not spectacular. Lundqvist being great and the team being solid in the last two periods are not mutually exclusive. But I guess I want to exaggerate Lundqvist's performance into mythical status and feel the need to put the team down. It's an epidemic on this board.

If you believe Hank had no tough saves in the third, the epidemic resides solely within you.

 

[Idlerlee]

I've honestly never seen a more whiny fanbase than the Montreal one. Kreiders foot was literally beaten from beneath him by the habs stick, and the only way he could possibly go was the direction momentum carried him, and they still go on about how Price was ran.

And honestly it doesnt help that Subban has the composure of a mountain when he's carrying the puck up the ice, but falls over by the touch of a light summer breeze when someone makes the slightest contact with him.