GKJ
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Prospect Info: Round 1, Pick 5: Cutter Gauthier, LW, USNTDP -> Boston College
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swami24
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I haven't played in 3 years due to knee replacement. I am hoping to play in the fall. I know I am going to be sadly disappointed in the loss of driver distance. My longest (over a long hill and then rolled ) is 345. I could hit that tour average. Of course it often was in the short rough. Long irons were my weakness, so I was a bogie golfer. I may have to play old man golf when I return. Like Tin Cup, my 7 iron was great.
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LegionOfDoom91
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Nah he should be there in the winter assuming the center experiment doesn’t tank his stock like it did Boldy in his D+1 lead up to the tournament.
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VladDrag
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The last time I played on a simulator that was my
2nd best drive. I had another one 353 afterwards, both were downhill. Probably closer to 320-330 without the downhill aspect.
deadhead
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I wouldn't read too much into the WJC for Gauthier, he was playing LW with a puck dominant center in Cooley.
Far more interested in whether he progresses playing center in college this winter and spring.
Not looking for a finished product, but evidence that he's able to climb the learning curve at a fast rate.
Far more interested in whether he progresses playing center in college this winter and spring.
Not looking for a finished product, but evidence that he's able to climb the learning curve at a fast rate.
BringBackHakstol
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Very fascinating how we shouldn't read into this but we should make conclusive decisions based on camp.
Hanover Fist
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Sounds like…….he’s two years away
Kelmitchell2
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Have you watched his games at all when he's played center? He's pretty bad at center and not likely to be one, he may he forced to play it, but it's only gonna hurt him
FLYguy3911
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Up and down in the medal rounds but good overall. Clearly the third best player on his line though so you can read into that how you will.
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FlyerNutter
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I need to do some scouting for who runs the Flyers US side of things. Seems to have a lot of influence on this franchise - and is dogshit like the rest of the scouting dept.
deadhead
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Just saw this today
That's been known for six months.
Basically Gauthier is a high floor (LW winger with size, speed and a plus wrist shot), uncertain ceiling (can he play center at a top six level?). The premier centers were gone, so it was Gauthier or the RHD.
FlyerNutter
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What have the Flyers done this season to try to move themselves into a spot where the premier players are available.
This is quickly becoming a waste of a season, but thank god Torts brought back Flyer hockey.
flyersnorth
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And in Flyers tradition, they chose high floor over high ceiling.
I think there’s room for that strategy in later rounds and in the absence of high risk/high reward available players, but not in the 1st round, and especially not in the top 5.
FLYguy3911
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With a pick of this magnitude, everyone is involved. Regional scouts generally have more say in the later rounds.
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from being two years away?
FlyerNutter
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With York, and Farabee the other recent guys it seems to be a bit of a trend no?
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It would be totally on brand for the flyers to get a 3rd line center out of a potential 1st line winger!
Or maybe he will never be a center und settles as a 3rd line winger?
Or he is too good to be broken and reach his ceiling and all authentics will argue it was good development!
Or maybe he will never be a center und settles as a 3rd line winger?
Or he is too good to be broken and reach his ceiling and all authentics will argue it was good development!
FLYguy3911
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Not sure what you mean. Early round picks are usually picked based on input from all of the scouts in the organization with the GM + Scouting director ultimately making the final decision. USA Hockey is producing more and more players every year and most of the top talent is coming from the USNTDP so I would equate it to taking a player from the CHL in the first round - pretty common and not necessarily indicative of a trend. These guys are also heavily scouted at the international events where there is crossover scouting likely being done. In 2019 specifically, the three most obvious choices at 11 and then 14 were from the USNTDP so there was a pretty decent chance they were taking an American in the first - Boldy, York, Caufield.
Farabee was a Hextall/Pryor pick also. They were gone shortly after that pick was made and before he signed.
I think the bigger trend is the types of players they are selecting. They appear to value size, raw shooting ability and volume shooters. Their selections have also trended to the older side.
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Farabee was clearly BPA, and that was a Hextall pick. As for York, he went where he was expected to go. People complained about who they passed up, but guess where Caufield and Boldy played? The NTDP is one of the best talent feeders. We all wanted Cooley last draft, and where did he play? You guessed it.
As was said, these high picks are led by the GM and AGM. It's definitely possible they feel most comfortable evaluating this area, the same way they feel least comfortable evaluating Finns (as we learned, for good reason! We have a mega bust and a guy with possible legal issues.)
I know Nick Pryor is with the Penguins now, but he was one of their top guys for the USHL. Frankly, for a while, the Flyers best bang for their buck in the mid-late rounds came from the USHL. Kaplan is a nice upside pick, I'll give the current regime that.
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IronMarshal
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I am a fan of Gauthier. Really good tools, size, skating, shot, decent playmaker. I was very happy with the pick and remain so. After Cooley, and Wright, he was the guy I wanted. The Flyers need a top line center, and I thought Cooley and Wright could be that. Gauthier was the next best possibility to be that. He may only be a second line center, but that is better than what they have now, especially with the uncertainty surrounding Coots going forward.
Maybe the Flyers finally get lucky in the lottery/draft and get a no doubt about it number one center like Bedard, Fantilli, or Carlsson, or maybe get lucky with someone in the 8-10 draft position barring lotto luck. Or maybe Gauthier becomes a number one center? He is still young. Time will tell.
Maybe the Flyers finally get lucky in the lottery/draft and get a no doubt about it number one center like Bedard, Fantilli, or Carlsson, or maybe get lucky with someone in the 8-10 draft position barring lotto luck. Or maybe Gauthier becomes a number one center? He is still young. Time will tell.
