Speculation: Roster/Trade Discussion Thread

[Waltuh]

Given the current situation if it has to happen it certainly won't be the end of the world but I think Gavrikov stews on things here in NY for at least another year before deciding to jump ship. Rolling out a D core without Gavrikov & Schneider with no real replacements for the entirety of next season is just more nightmare fuel. Unless he thinks LA might go on a cup run next season and wants out as soon as possible you typically don't see big UFA signings get traded 1 year into their contract, at least none that I can remember recently.

sounds like a great way to have an 25% chance at landon dupont to me

 

[Waltuh]

Who’s gonna play LD for us if we trade Gavrikov? Robertson/Fortescue/Vaak? Holy shit, we’d probably sign Ferraro for big money and he isn’t good.

Might as well as trade Igor, Borgen, and anyone over 27 without a clause. Not a horrible idea just rip the band aid off.

Dumoloin comes back for Gav and we sign Logan Stanley 4 years/4 million

Dumoloin-Fox
Stanley-Borgen
Fortescue-Morrow

 

[17futurecap]

Dumoloin comes back for Gav and we sign Logan Stanley 4 years/4 million

Dumoloin-Fox
Stanley-Borgen
Fortescue-Morrow

I mean just trade Fox at that point, that’s the worst defense in the league.

 

[Waltuh]

I mean just trade Fox at that point, that’s the worst defense in the league.

next offseason after we get dupont

 

[kinghock]

LA is going to trade for Trocheck and put him on a line with Panarin and Laferriere.

Trocheck still does not want to go to west coast.

 

[kinghock]

Gavrikov + Trocheck for 17th OA + next years 1st + Clarke

In my opinion If there is one player on Kings NY will not be able to get from LA it is Clarke.

I think LA will trade Byfield before him, but trading Byfield for Trocheck does not make sense either for them.

 

[RangersFan1994]

With Avs trading Colton, what would they offer in a Trocheck Schneider trade?

 

[NYR Viper]

Given the current situation if it has to happen it certainly won't be the end of the world but I think Gavrikov stews on things here in NY for at least another year before deciding to jump ship. Rolling out a D core without Gavrikov & Schneider with no real replacements for the entirety of next season is just more nightmare fuel. Unless he thinks LA might go on a cup run next season and wants out as soon as possible you typically don't see big UFA signings get traded 1 year into their contract, at least none that I can remember recently.

It very well could be that his family wants to return

 

[NYR Viper]

Who’s gonna play LD for us if we trade Gavrikov? Robertson/Fortescue/Vaak? Holy shit, we’d probably sign Ferraro for big money and he isn’t good.

Might as well as trade Igor, Borgen, and anyone over 27 without a clause. Not a horrible idea just rip the band aid off.

I would expect Darnell Nurse to be a Ranger and Darren Raddysh to also be a Ranger.

 

[Alluckks]

Don't think McTavish will ever have a Zibanejad-esque breakout, but a 23 year old 2C is the right idea for a team trying to get younger.

If you can make Schneider the key return, great, but IDK if that would be something Anaheim valued that much. They have options at RD if they want them.

From what I have read, he isn’t really a Center, more of a winger

 

[Waltuh]

In my opinion If there is one player on Kings NY will not be able to get from LA it is Clarke.

I think LA will trade Byfield before him, but trading Byfield for Trocheck does not make sense either for them.

trocheck for byfield makes plenty of sense for NYR, and might for LA if Holland cares more about trocheck being the better player the next two years as opposed to down the line. seems like LA is gearing up to go all in, despite the fans wanting otherwise.

 

[NYR Viper]

It’s been rumored that Trochek may be more open to a West Coast team in the offseason so he and his family can get settled

 

[NYR Viper]

With Avs trading Colton, what would they offer in a Trocheck Schneider trade?

They have Mack, Nelson and Kadri at center. They aren’t trading for Trochek

 

[kinghock]

trocheck for byfield makes plenty of sense for NYR, and might for LA if Holland cares more about trocheck being the better player the next two years as opposed to down the line. seems like LA is gearing up to go all in, despite the fans wanting otherwise.

Trocheck for Byfield makes no sense for LA, because Kings still will need another center and already used their assets. Also, it is debatable if Trocheck currently better player than Byfield...

 

[kinghock]

It’s been rumored that Trochek may be more open to a West Coast team in the offseason so he and his family can get settled

It is only may be more open…

 

[Lone Ranger]

His former agent, Matthew Oates, is very much alive so I'm not sure where you're getting that from

He's only dead to Trocheck.

 

[bernmeister]

Who’s gonna play LD for us if we trade Gavrikov? Robertson/Fortescue/Vaak? Holy shit, we’d probably sign Ferraro for big money and he isn’t good.

Might as well as trade Igor, Borgen, and anyone over 27 without a clause. Not a horrible idea just rip the band aid off.

bold 1: irrelevant b'c it supports win now and we have to go a few steps back to gain way ahead later

bold 2: yes

In my opinion If there is one player on Kings NY will not be able to get from LA it is Clarke.

I think LA will trade Byfield before him, but trading Byfield for Trocheck does not make sense either for them.

Ks seem to have been lukewarm about Clarke.
Overall production/upside is close.
Gav = better long term cap hit locked in
Clarke = younger

There were reasonable bases to think by could be had, but not atm esp since Kopi retired.
Ks would need to get high pivots from somewhere first before entertaining b'c pivot depth = dearth

 

[bernmeister]

stranger things have happened, but I don't see tro to LA
not now
maybe down the road
not now

 

[bernmeister]

Gav + Morrow + return of LA 2026 3rd+ depth Rads + Pars
for Clarke + Helenius + LAK 2026 1st

Doughty is ancient, Morrow helps there

 

[GoAwayRempe]

I would expect Darnell Nurse to be a Ranger and Darren Raddysh to also be a Ranger.

We need a thumbs down reaction.

 

[mike14]

Trocheck still does not want to go to west coast.

Sucks to be him. There's at least 4 west coast teams he can go to now, and 6 if he doesn't want to go to Canada. That becomes 6 and 8 in two weeks...

 

[GAGLine]

With Avs trading Colton, what would they offer in a Trocheck Schneider trade?

Nothing. I can't imagine they want either one.

 

[kovazub94]

Their latest podcast link in the article.

Apparently, Gavrikov never wanted to leave Los Angeles. He wanted seven years and LA said no. Now there's mutual interest from Gavrikov and the Kings for him to return to LA. There were discussions regarding expanding the Panarin deal to include Trocheck or Gavrikov but Drury wanted to move Panarin and they would circle back to the other two players later. They are claiming Trocheck didn't want to move his family to LA during the season. He would be more open to the move in the summer. The Kings would like to acquire Trocheck and Gavrikov. They pointed Trocheck had his best offensive season during Laviolette.

What is LA giving up for both players? LA has the 17th pick in the draft. The Rangers could select Alexander Command. He should go in that range. 2027 first round pick would need to be included. The Kings don't have many assets. LA is looking to move Dumoulin or Edmundson. Their contracts stink. They are not trading Laferriere. Clarke? The Rangers need to get something out of this trade for both players.

So move Trocheck and his $5+m, move Gavrikov's $7m, move Schneider's $4+m, and don't sign Tuch or other lesser UFAs. Are the Rangers even going to make the cap floor?

 

[17futurecap]

 

[UnSandvich]

f***. I liked Kesselring as a bounceback target, and that also means SJ is unlikely to trade a 1st for Schneider