Aladyyn
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ERod was on pace for 42 points on 4th line ice time according to the viz above. 30 points over a full season is not the perfect world. If anything it would be a disappointment.
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I don't expect Botterill to do nothing, but I doubt he's able to make enough moves this summer, that are also smart long-term, to be able to change the "70 pt roster" label either. The difference between Larsson or some other guy at 4C certainly won't be a difference. I think the best thing Botterill can do is find a few vets on one year deals to fill in at LW, RW (so not to rely so much on BBF and Nylander), maybe 4C, and 2nd pair D if he can somehow ditch Bogosian. Bonus if any of these vets aren't terrible.
Maybe by the start of 2019 3-5 of BBF, Nylander, Asplund, Olofsson, Borgen, and the coming 1st pick earn roster spots, and the whole vet placeholder routine ends.
I see us having 6 of our top 9 set for next year. (Eichel, ROR, Casey, Reino, Erod, Okposo) So where are those 3 forward slots being filled? Right now we definitely can’t fill those 3 spots internally. Maybe by 2019 Nylander/Olofsson/Asplund are ready but I would only want one of them at most being pushed into the opening lineup next year. I’d like to see one longer term acquisition (e.g. Svech/Zadina/Domi,etc), one short term UFA bet filler (e.g. Vanek, Grabner, Nash, Bozak, etc.) and let the kids battle it out for that final spot
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Yatzhee
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Moulson, Pominville are cap eaters. Move them if possible. If not, keep Moulson buried and let Pommers play out the final year. There is A) no reason to buy either one out, and B) ELC replacements.
Girgenson and Larsson should be qualified. Both still hold some trade value.
Poulliot, Nolan, Josefson, Gorges and Johnson are gone. Re-sign Wilson.
The defense is a mess. Wait to see how the lottery and draft shake out. Same with goaltending.
I can see it's very possible we have 6 or 7 ELC contracts on the roster next seasonm
Girgenson and Larsson should be qualified. Both still hold some trade value.
Poulliot, Nolan, Josefson, Gorges and Johnson are gone. Re-sign Wilson.
The defense is a mess. Wait to see how the lottery and draft shake out. Same with goaltending.
I can see it's very possible we have 6 or 7 ELC contracts on the roster next seasonm
Djp
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Girgs and Larson are under contract in 18/19.
No reason to buy out either Poms or Moulson.
Wilson is an RFA, others are UFAs
Nelson is also a UFA.
They sign/acquire a Dman. They should draft another with their 1st.
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Only took 2 head coaches and 3 seasons to get a look at ROR, Eichel and Reinhart together. I want a true top line, that can score in bunches at 5v5, especially at home. That trio fits the bill. If we pick 2nd or 3rd overall maybe Schvechnikov or Zadina get on the top line.
But for now I want two legitimate scoring lines.
ROR - Eichel - Reinhart
Rodrigues - Mittelstadt - Schvechnikov/Zadina/Tkachuk (if Tkachuk he plays LW, ERod RW)
Now the bottom 6, 3C from free agency or trade. Give me some realistic names. Okposo RW on the 3rd line. I think Wilson has a spot. The other 3 spots in the bottom 6 come from Baptiste, Bailey, Girgensons, Fasching, Malone, Asplund, Smith, O'Regan and free agency.
We don't have a lot of currency to trade for a good 3C - there's Girgensons, McCabe, Beaulieu(dreaming), Fasching/Baptiste/Bailey, draft picks.
Looking at the list of UFA centers - there's Filppula, Bozak, Sheahan, Riley Nash, Schaller, Brodziak, Derek Ryan, Derek Grant
Larsson and Pominville must go, no place for them here.
But for now I want two legitimate scoring lines.
ROR - Eichel - Reinhart
Rodrigues - Mittelstadt - Schvechnikov/Zadina/Tkachuk (if Tkachuk he plays LW, ERod RW)
Now the bottom 6, 3C from free agency or trade. Give me some realistic names. Okposo RW on the 3rd line. I think Wilson has a spot. The other 3 spots in the bottom 6 come from Baptiste, Bailey, Girgensons, Fasching, Malone, Asplund, Smith, O'Regan and free agency.
We don't have a lot of currency to trade for a good 3C - there's Girgensons, McCabe, Beaulieu(dreaming), Fasching/Baptiste/Bailey, draft picks.
Looking at the list of UFA centers - there's Filppula, Bozak, Sheahan, Riley Nash, Schaller, Brodziak, Derek Ryan, Derek Grant
Larsson and Pominville must go, no place for them here.
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Nash is far and away the best defensive middle six pivot available in UFA, although Filppulla might get himself a somewhat unexpected payday given how good he's looked with Sanheim and Simmonds in shutdown situations of-late. If you want to run a shutdown third line, those are your top picks.
Ryan could be the value of the summer. His production is that of an elite third liner, but he's older, has no track record past this year, and could just be a product of the Canes' defense. Brodziak is also a solid fourth line option.
Bozak/Sheahan are more offensive pivots, and could be decent stopgaps if we want to transition Mittelstadt to 3LW. Schaller/Grant are eh fourth liners with some special teams value. They're better than Nolan, but can't scale further up the lineup whatsoever.
As for the trade market, something I've been workshopping is Girgensons and a pick for JG Pageau. Pageau will fetch a decent return as a rental, but the Sens will have to dole out ~5 mil in order to realize it, and contenders typically earmark his salary for bigger fish in the offseason. Tampa's midline salary is another possibility for that type of deal, as they probably want to move forward with Point/Gourde as their second line, and could be restricted by the ~15 mil between Johnson/Palat/Killorn.
Yes, that's what they were saying. Seems like theyre gearing up for a quick retool a la post 2010 - lot of talk about getting younger. I'd do something like Fasching + 3rd/4th for Crawford + 2nd. If we can move Bogo's money out and shift it to Crow, that's a win.
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they never will because hockey has something unmeasurable that other sports don't have....heart
This is the dumbest thing I've read today
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I think you're confused or misspelled "loser points."
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"Heart" is about 15-20 years ago. Now it's guaranteed contracts and a "I'll play hard enough to keep my HC off my back" routine until the playoffs. Then there's a full effort. The NHL isn't a whole lot different from other sports now. Sad but true.
I could look into it deeper, but my thought was that he would play 3rd/4th line away from Eichel. If we run a core of Eichel/ROR/Mittelstadt then he could play a more offensive role.
UnleashRasmus
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Now it's time to get the only undrafted college free agent that matters. Cale Morris, G, ND. Botterill you are tasked with getting the better ND goalie than the one who skapegoated out and continues to belittle this franchise. Bring in Cale!
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ROR is the best faceoff man in the NHL and you put him on the wing?
He isn’t a 80 point player; however, he is very under appreciated by buffalo fans and media.
DatGuy
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I really hope people realize that RoR and Eichel are never going to play a regular 5 on 5 shift together. They are both centers from now until the end of time.
Aladyyn
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He's like 65th among 500+ minute forwards in 5on5 p/60. Better than literally any of our forwards since pre-tank.
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AustonsNostrils
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Think about an ROR - Eichel - Reinhart line - new era French Connection, Eichel could be 90+ points, ROR and Reinhart 70-80 points.
Phil won't do it, he should though.
Phil won't do it, he should though.
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Aladyyn
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ERod > Nylander for the foreseeable future.
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