Roster/Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2025-26: Welcome to the Darche Side

[Glory Days]

Still dumbfounded someone here thinks Larkin isn't a good skater....

That’s how some justify Barzal being the better player

 

[Glorydays22]

Still dumbfounded someone here thinks Larkin isn't a good skater....

Who's the better skater? Barzy or Larkin?

 

[Glorydays22]

That’s how some justify Barzal being the better player

Please look up their stats and career..thank you

 

[seabass45]

Please look up their stats and career..thank you

The stats say Larkin scored 30 goals each of the last five seasons. Barzal has only hit 20 once since his rookie season.

 

[8EJS9]

The isles historically have not been good in 3v3 ot until last year. What was different? Schaefer. Guys like Barzal and Horvat benefited from Schaefer. Let’s give credit where credit is due.

Of course I 100% agree with that. Now imagine if Barzal had someone at forward with even half the skill and IQ that Schaefer has.

 

[Glory Days]

Please look up their stats and career..thank you

Which player scores more goals, has become a consistent 30 goal scorer, kills penalties, is better at face offs, plays center, plays for his country. thank you.

 

[8EJS9]

The stats say Larkin scored 30 goals each of the last five seasons. Barzal has only hit 20 once since his rookie season.

Is that all some of you care about is goals? Mitch Marner has only scored 30 goals twice in 10 years. Are you going to sit there and tell me that Larkin is better than Marner?

 

[Glory Days]

Of course I 100% agree with that. Now imagine if Barzal had someone at forward with even half the skill and IQ that Schaefer has.

Sure but I could say the same thing about Horvat.

 

[seabass45]

Is that all some of you care about is goals? Mitch Marner has only scored 30 goals twice in 10 years. Are you going to sit there and tell me that Larkin is better than Marner?

We were asked to look up their stats.

 

[MJF]

Let's say he makes the team slightly better now, why do we want that? I'd rather just move Barzal for the futures we need.

i was hgihlighting how they do not bring a similar effect to the game. If you want to trade Barzal to restock the pipeline I’m alo for it.

 

[MJF]

Of course I 100% agree with that. Now imagine if Barzal had someone at forward with even half the skill and IQ that Schaefer has.

Bo Horvat?

 

[TeamKidd]

not sure i understand getting larkin. maybe hes a better player, maybe he's not, maybe it's debatable. but....a 1 for 1 swap like that is a bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic....it doesnt make us a better team, doesnt give us cap space and continues the 'we have declining players' trajectory of the team. thats not the deal i'd make for barzal.

 

[Glorydays22]

The stats say Larkin scored 30 goals each of the last five seasons. Barzal has only hit 20 once since his rookie season.

Oh my god, I can't freaking believe you guys are bring up the goals AGAIN. HOW MANY times have we said...Barzal is a f***ing playmaker, not a goal scorer.
Barzal in 9 seasons is averaging 59 pts
Larkin in 11 years is averaging 58 pts

Larkin has been the 1C for Detroit for 9 of the 11 seasons. First two seasons it was an old Zetterburg. Barzal was the 1C for what 7 seasons first 2 behind JT

Oh, and your great two way player in Larkin. A career -100 +/-
and the horrible defesnive guy Barzal +20 for his career.

Oh and the argument you guys have with Barzal is he doesn't make anyone better on his team....Hmmm, what has Larkin done??

 

[Glorydays22]

Which player scores more goals, has become a consistent 30 goal scorer, kills penalties, is better at face offs, plays center, plays for his country. thank you.

yes Larkin is such a great two way player. Yet he's a -100 in +/- for his career. And where has he made any of his teammates better? thank you

 

[Throttle]

Yet but if your first line is Horvat-Ritchie and your 2nd line Barzal-Eiserman...I think that could be pretty good....then you have Danny Nelson coming up to take over the 3rd line center

I’ll take the first, pass on the second. Eiserman is either score goals or not, no matter who is passing the puck to him.

 

[islesfan3913]

Who's the better skater? Barzy or Larkin?

For the record I don’t think it makes overly great sense to trade Barzal for Larkin, but this isn’t the original statement you made. You said Larkin isn’t a great skater and is instead just average.

 

[Glorydays22]

I’ll take the first, pass on the second. Eiserman is either score goals or not, no matter who is passing the puck to him.

Not willing to give it a look? It wasn't too long ago. Everyone in this forum was raving about Eiserman, couldn't wait to draft him. Couldn't wait to he got to the big club. Now everyone is just like, meh.....

 

[Glorydays22]

For the record I don’t think it makes overly great sense to trade Barzal for Larkin, but this isn’t the original statement you made. You said Larkin isn’t a great skater and is instead just average.

ok for the record, where is the statement from hockey people that Larkin is a great skater...I just hear it from you and few guys here. Doesn't compare skating wise with Barzal, that I will state for the record.

 

[Glory Days]

yes Larkin is such a great two way player. Yet he's a -100 in +/- for his career. And where has he made any of his teammates better? thank you

And where has Barzal made any player better. And +- is not a good metric for defensive play. If Barzal was such a good defensive player he would kill penalties like Larkin. thank you

 

[Glorydays22]

And where has Barzal made any player better. And +- is not a good metric for defensive play. If Barzal was such a good defensive player he would kill penalties like Larkin. thank you

oh ok....I see, stats are only worth anything when it suits your argument...Got it!

 

[Throttle]

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Not willing to give it a look? It wasn't too long ago. Everyone in this forum was raving about Eiserman, couldn't wait to draft him. Couldn't wait to he got to the big club. Now everyone is just like, meh.....

I’ll say I’m not one of those who put elite sniper savior on the wall, nope.

Jason Robertson doesn’t have any special set up guy and scores lots and lots of goals.

 

[seabass45]

Oh my god, I can't freaking believe you guys are bring up the goals AGAIN. HOW MANY times have we said...Barzal is a f***ing playmaker, not a goal scorer.
Barzal in 9 seasons is averaging 59 pts
Larkin in 11 years is averaging 58 pts

Larkin has been the 1C for Detroit for 9 of the 11 seasons. First two seasons it was an old Zetterburg. Barzal was the 1C for what 7 seasons first 2 behind JT

Oh, and your great two way player in Larkin. A career -100 +/-
and the horrible defesnive guy Barzal +20 for his career.

Oh and the argument you guys have with Barzal is he doesn't make anyone better on his team....Hmmm, what has Larkin done??

You wanted stats. Are goals not included in stats?

 

[Glorydays22]

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I’ll say I’m not one of those who put elite sniper savior on the wall, nope.

Jason Robertson doesn’t have any special set up guy and scores lots and lots of goals.

I'm in no way saying he would or could be our savior. But why can't the islanders develop a top goal scorer? Who was the last one? I think we are due. Why cant we catch lightning in a bottle for a change.

 

[Glorydays22]

You wanted stats. Are goals not included in stats?

They are...and he's a scorer, Barzal is a playmaker....and if you add up their points. They avg the same per year 58 for Larkin, 59 for Barzal.

 

[Glory Days]

oh ok....I see, stats are only worth anything when it suits your argument...Got it!

what stats? You can’t use team stats when comparing players. Barzal gets more assists. Larkin scores more goals, wins more face offs, kills penalties, is a team captain and plays for his country.