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IslesNorway said:
Resigning Nelson and Palms is exactly what I expect Lou to do, and set the franchise back years in doing so. Fingers crossed they are both traded but the next few years are gonna be grim if they stay.
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I wouldn’t be surprised to see the deadline be a dud and we do nothing.
 
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I realize Nelsons hometown is near winnipeg but I'd wonder if they are on his no-trade list thus requiring an extra step of permission

thats not a knock on winnipeg whom I'd love to see offer up someone like Colby Barlow
 
Green said:




This means there is no chance Lou is even bothering taking offers on Pageau, Lee and anyone else over 30 who might get us some hope for the future and will only decide to "maybe" flip Palmieri/Nelson if it looks like there is no chance of them re-signing and whatever last minute garbage we are able to scrounge up with if we decide to trade them at 2:45 on Friday
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I’m sure the offer to Palms is in the ball park of 4 years. I mean, he is ONLY 34, and that’s young by Lou’s standards.
 
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Isles72 said:
I realize Nelsons hometown is near winnipeg but I'd wonder if they are on his no-trade list thus requiring an extra step of permission

thats not a knock on winnipeg whom I'd love to see offer up someone like Colby Barlow
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Not only would it seem bizarre to me if he had it on a no-trade list for that reason, I would think going to a legitimate contender would overcome all of that. imo he's going to Winnipeg or Colorado with NJ being the dark horse.
 
Isles72 said:
I realize Nelsons hometown is near winnipeg but I'd wonder if they are on his no-trade list thus requiring an extra step of permission

thats not a knock on winnipeg whom I'd love to see offer up someone like Colby Barlow
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Being a real contender and him being UFA, going there for a few months shouldn’t be a problem, NTC or not.
 
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IF lou decides to pull triggers - what are feasible returns for :

Nelson
Palms
Pageau
Dobson
TDA

anyone else possibly on the list?
 
PK Cronin said:


Rantanen is going to be dealt (or should be), I really wonder what return the Hurricanes will get.
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Could wind up similar to the Vanek return, depending on the interest. Market for sellers seems to be strong, but Teams know he’s not resigning in Carolina. Interested parties may wait it out until the summer to take a shot.
 
eoin92 said:
Could wind up similar to the Vanek return, depending on the interest. Market for sellers seems to be strong, but Teams know he’s not resigning in Carolina. Interested parties may wait it out until the summer to take a shot.
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Seems like they'll get something a little better than that, but some teams might opt to do what you're suggesting for sure. He wants a huge contract so I'm not sure teams will be in a rush to trade for and lock him up right away.

 
Nosebleed40 said:
I’m sure the offer to Palms is in the ball park of 4 years. I mean, he is ONLY 34, and that’s young by Lou’s standards.
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Jaromir Jagr is young by Lou's standards.

PK Cronin said:


Rantanen is going to be dealt (or should be), I really wonder what return the Hurricanes will get.
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They will get Brock Nelson, Noah Dobson, and our 2025 1st round pick. Lou will then sign Rantanen to an 8-year extension and we'll all live happily ever after.
 
IMO the Devils make the most sense to trade with, but so does Winnipeg

The Isles HAVE to capitalize on how desperate the Devils are after losing Jack Hughes, and their center depth is shot. You need a Brock Nelson in the worst of ways.
 
Osakahaus said:
IMO the Devils make the most sense to trade with, but so does Winnipeg

The Isles HAVE to capitalize on how desperate the Devils are after losing Jack Hughes, and their center depth is shot. You need a Brock Nelson in the worst of ways.
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I honestly could see both of them (nelson and palms) going to the devs. for a lot of reasons. the devs traded palms to us, partly because of proximity and potential to win. there would be a reciprocity. lou worked for the devils. and it would be minimal disruptiojn for the 2 players, doing them a solid. which lou is prone to doing.
 
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Osakahaus said:
IMO the Devils make the most sense to trade with, but so does Winnipeg

The Isles HAVE to capitalize on how desperate the Devils are after losing Jack Hughes, and their center depth is shot. You need a Brock Nelson in the worst of ways.
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Do they though? If the cost to acquire Nelson is as steep as has been suggested then I'm not sure it makes sense for them to do it. Is a Hischier + Nelson 1-2 combination down the middle enough to win with? Does it make sense to unload all the assets necessary to acquire Nelson and know that they aren't even getting back to the level they were just a week or two ago?

Tough spot for them to be in. If they don't add they're punting on the season. If they do add it's going to cost a lot to make up for what they've already lost + improve.

If they are looking to add then I imagine they're looking for more than a rental.
 
PK Cronin said:
Do they though? If the cost to acquire Nelson is as steep as has been suggested then I'm not sure it makes sense for them to do it. Is a Hischier + Nelson 1-2 combination down the middle enough to win with? Does it make sense to unload all the assets necessary to acquire Nelson and know that they aren't even getting back to the level they were just a week or two ago?

Tough spot for them to be in. If they don't add they're punting on the season. If they do add it's going to cost a lot to make up for what they've already lost + improve.
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do the Devils want to miss the playoffs and get scolded for it? The Devils as a whole are the antithesis of what Lamoriello does and they too have massive issues, but that lies thererin from their poor depth and injuries. Jack Hughes and Nico being injured hurts you a ton, Nelson is a stop gap and only as a stop gap. Do you give up assets to get both Nelson and Palmieri anyways?

As you said, its a tough spot to be in, especially after such a good start to the season.
 
Osakahaus said:
do the Devils want to miss the playoffs and get scolded for it? The Devils as a whole are the antithesis of what Lamoriello does and they too have massive issues, but that lies thererin from their poor depth and injuries. Jack Hughes and Nico being injured hurts you a ton, Nelson is a stop gap and only as a stop gap. Do you give up assets to get both Nelson and Palmieri anyways?

As you said, its a tough spot to be in, especially after such a good start to the season.
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I'd avoid rentals if I were them, so a sign and trade or grabbing someone with a few years left on their deal is how I'd approach it. They're definitely not a lock for the playoffs if they don't do anything at the deadline. I don't think they have any chance of beating the top three teams in the Atlantic though.
 
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12Dog said:
Engvall is untradeable
Fasching is an AHL player
Mayfield? Might have value to a playoff team, but who’s taking that contract without an equally shitty contract coming back?
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Agreed.

I was going to say you could retain on Mayfield but why bother? If you’re going to retain on a long term contract then you might as well consider a buyout.

We’re not there yet with Mayfield but surely that’s an offseason option for Engvall.
 
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