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As long as the the locker room approves, sign him.
IDGAF, just fix the got damn powerplay.
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As long as the the locker room approves, sign him.
IDGAF, just fix the got damn powerplay.
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We need to get someone who can put the puck in the net on the PP.
I couldn’t even imagine what this team would be like with someone like Leon draisaitl who scored 32 ppg this year. Our whole team combined scored 35 ppg.
Now, obviously being on a lethal PP like Edmonton helps his numbers. But the thought of someone scoring that many pp goals doesn’t even seem possible.
His year this year was tied for 2nd all time (tied with Dave Andreychuk. 1st is Tim Kerr with 34 in ‘85-86)
I couldn’t even imagine what this team would be like with someone like Leon draisaitl who scored 32 ppg this year. Our whole team combined scored 35 ppg.
Now, obviously being on a lethal PP like Edmonton helps his numbers. But the thought of someone scoring that many pp goals doesn’t even seem possible.
His year this year was tied for 2nd all time (tied with Dave Andreychuk. 1st is Tim Kerr with 34 in ‘85-86)
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Well that’s why I put that it was tied for 2nd best all time. It’s clearly a historic number.
But if we could get half of that it would be great. I think Nelson was our leading power play goal scorer with 6.
Edit: Nelson and lee tied for the team lead with 6 ppg each.
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That is actually a really good call!
It might cost almost 7m a season to sign him - he may want to stay in the metro.
We'll have to wait to see what the Cap is going to be - end of May early June the official number should be announced... most likely it will be 83.5 but there is a chance it could be 88.
Any word on Pulli? My top choice is Johnson - that will happen in August.
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I think most teams in the league need it to get higher. The Bruins, Oilers, Vegas are just a few teams that are f***ed next year -if the cap only goes up to 83.5.
I back the players here - they finally have the escrow down to 6%, so the league should be smart and up the cap more than 1m. It will create a bit more movement, but to be honest this free agent class is WEAK... so the trade market should be active
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Dobson + ? … Dobson alone is too much. Defenseman have more value than forwards. Awl hers isn’t even close to a p/pg or that big of a goal scorer. Lucky to get 20 goals 40 assists out of him. Those are Eberle numbers… Dobson has taken heat around here for some defensive lapses but he is 23 and just put up back to back 50 point seasons. This kids ceiling is far too high to go trading him for a border line 1st line winger who can never seem to stay healthy. If you are trading Dobson… which is a bad idea, have to be patient with this kid… he is worth it. But if you trade him right now, a much better player needs to be coming back the other way with no add on. Noah has a very realistic chance of being a 15-20 goal 40-50 assist player who can hold
His own in the defensive zone and rarely gets beat in a foot race. 70 point dmen don’t grown on trees.
The PP is about players not coaches not systems , the PP is about skill, speed , creativity . Great players make great coaches . Our PP has been crap since the departure of Pajama boy.
The only thing I've heard about Pulli is that he is NOT signing with San Jose, as was reported.
The Liiga championship was decided yesterday. Movement should follow.
And as for Johnson and another candidate or two from the college scene, mid-August could be Christmas for somebody. I hope it's us.
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If we're dealing with WPG, I think you have to consider Pulock since that's his hometown. He'd have a lot of value for WPG, and he might waive to go there. I know he was a popular trade chip here but now he's having a great playoffs and maybe that sentiment has changed.
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Draft and develop. UFAs like no taxes/original 6
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Yeah this ain’t it. This is a coaching problem as well.
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If the isles first priority isn't finding a PUCK MOVING defenseman, then they're out of sorts
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Fun playoff series. I have some thoughts on it:
1.) Lou is going to have to continue shaking up this core. He acquired guys like Horvat, Engvall, and Fasching and should keep all three. If one of these guys are not going to be kept it would be Fasching to me. He had a strong game 6 though.
2.) Success is never linear, but we've seen successful organizations like the Penguins go out and make a big shake up such as Kessel which led them to another Cup.
3.) Pageau, Varlamov, Bailey, and possibly Lee. Varlamov needs to be let go. This team needs to trust Korn can develop another G who is cheaper. Put that money into the defense.
Pageau has had two disappointing seasons. He has not shown enough come playoff time nor regular season. I think his injuries throughout our two playoff runs really messed him up. His contract is not good now either. Would a team be willing to take a shot on him?
Hopefully Bailey retires.
I would not go and make big trades like Lee.... But that being said something else needs to continue to change.
WPG and Calgary are two franchises I am very interested in. I am curious what it would take to acquire one of their players.
1.) Lou is going to have to continue shaking up this core. He acquired guys like Horvat, Engvall, and Fasching and should keep all three. If one of these guys are not going to be kept it would be Fasching to me. He had a strong game 6 though.
2.) Success is never linear, but we've seen successful organizations like the Penguins go out and make a big shake up such as Kessel which led them to another Cup.
3.) Pageau, Varlamov, Bailey, and possibly Lee. Varlamov needs to be let go. This team needs to trust Korn can develop another G who is cheaper. Put that money into the defense.
Pageau has had two disappointing seasons. He has not shown enough come playoff time nor regular season. I think his injuries throughout our two playoff runs really messed him up. His contract is not good now either. Would a team be willing to take a shot on him?
Hopefully Bailey retires.
I would not go and make big trades like Lee.... But that being said something else needs to continue to change.
WPG and Calgary are two franchises I am very interested in. I am curious what it would take to acquire one of their players.
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Short take: if I'm the owners I'm thinking my team needs a new coaching staff. I'm also thinking that Lou did a great job turning around the culture, but things have stagnated and there is evidence of a failure to recognize needs and/or an inflexibility to adjust the roster to compete in the current environment. They probably don't want a full tear-down rebuild. I don't either, as I think a new coaching staff and a handful of roster adjustments (more dynamic talent on D and speed on the wings especially) combined could result in a contending team. But a GM would need to make smart moves. As others have mentioned, I'd like to see what a guy like Q could do coaching this team. And get a proactive GM who adjusts at faster than a glacial pace, with a traditional defense-first mindset but balancing that with speed and skill.
Ironically, I think Lou recognized some issues in getting a good skating defenseman in Romanov (our 2nd best D in the playoffs, IMO, even just coming off an injury - was better than most at keeping it simple, moving the puck quickly, and limiting dangerous mistakes), drafting top skating D like Odelius and George, and trading for Engvall. But he didn't do nearly enough and didn't fix the biggest hole - a dynamic offensive/puck-moving D. And still not enough speed on the outside (not sure why Holmstrom wasn't given a game in the playoffs when the problem became apparent?).
I just posted in another thread that the Isles had chances this series but basically got 2019 Trotz'd. No dangerous one-timers off cross-ice passes, no bang-bang plays from behind the goal line to the slot, no dangerous point shots with traffic in front, very few rebound opportunities. That's on coaching, IMO.
Ironically, I think Lou recognized some issues in getting a good skating defenseman in Romanov (our 2nd best D in the playoffs, IMO, even just coming off an injury - was better than most at keeping it simple, moving the puck quickly, and limiting dangerous mistakes), drafting top skating D like Odelius and George, and trading for Engvall. But he didn't do nearly enough and didn't fix the biggest hole - a dynamic offensive/puck-moving D. And still not enough speed on the outside (not sure why Holmstrom wasn't given a game in the playoffs when the problem became apparent?).
I just posted in another thread that the Isles had chances this series but basically got 2019 Trotz'd. No dangerous one-timers off cross-ice passes, no bang-bang plays from behind the goal line to the slot, no dangerous point shots with traffic in front, very few rebound opportunities. That's on coaching, IMO.
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They need a lot of milk cartons. Horvat is the easy target, but who exactly had a good series? Pulock was great. Also, uh, er, ...? Seriously, a few other guys were okay, but I see a combination of coaching issues and roster issues. The team overall lacks speed. In hockey you can make up for that by moving the puck quickly. But that didn't happen either.
I mostly agree, I would move JGP if possible. Bailey needs to go. Id like to see one of if not both of Martin/Clutter moved.
I would love to find a way to get Lee off this team, he is a good leader, but that contract is a nightmare.
Id even look into moving Pelech. I think he would have alot of value, but he misses 15-20 games every year and he was horrible this playoff series.
This team needs an injection of speed and youth.
IMO our top needs are
1. A top line dynamic winger
2. A PPQB/Puck moving defenseman
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