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dlawong said:
He needs to watch the Netflix series Physical 100 season 2 and see how a reputable Cross-Fit training program can do wonders for dedicated athletes improving their strength and endurance. In addition, he needs to spend more effort on finetuning his skating and passing skills. He may also improve his hockey IQ by studying the game with an experienced mentor. All this takes time and effort. It is up to him to use his time wisely this summer.
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I would love to see how he is at practice. Some players are monsters when scrimmaging, but can't do the same in league games. The brain is a crazy thing.
 
DerekKingSnipes said:
Wahlstrom needs to reinvent himself, he isn’t a scorer but he is big and seems to not mind the physical part of game. He needs to work on D, maybe even learn to kill penalties and with his size and shot he could be a 3rd-4th line forward who scores 15 a year. The fact he never got in rotation up front down stretch doesn’t seem to bode well for him here IMO but we will see this summer.
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I suppose he can have a heart to heart with Lou and Roy saying all the right things ''I'll play wherever you need me'' and they just go on from there . I'd imagine his trade value is zipp and sooner or later Maggio and Dufour will get long looks at camp before him
 
On Wahlstrom, lateral movement is critical to anyone playing hockey with skates , Wahlstrom just doesn’t have it .
 
Top Corner said:
On Wahlstrom, lateral movement is critical to anyone playing hockey with skates , Wahlstrom just doesn’t have it .
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Or without skates. My lateral movement wasn't great playing dekHockey. Straight ahead speed wasn't great either, but I still contributed offensively. Come to think of it, I was like the Ron Greshner of dekHockey, minus the money and Carol Alt.
 
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doublechili said:
Or without skates. My lateral movement wasn't great playing dekHockey. Straight ahead speed wasn't great either, but I still contributed offensively. Come to think of it, I was like the Ron Greshner of dekHockey, minus the money and Carol Alt.
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Alt still looks good. After Gresh she hooked up with Yashin. She obviously likes hockey players. Tell her you played dek hockey. I think you got a shot.
 
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Glory Days said:
Alt still looks good. After Gresh she hooked up with Yashin. She obviously likes hockey players. Tell her you played dek hockey. I think you got a shot.
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My wife might have an issue with that.

I'm virtually certain that I walked by Alt when I was at Hofstra - she was there the same time as me. Missed my chance, although I was a commuter student living at home and she was probably dating some guy with a Ferrari and a chain of restaurants. :laugh:
 
doublechili said:
Or without skates. My lateral movement wasn't great playing dekHockey. Straight ahead speed wasn't great either, but I still contributed offensively. Come to think of it, I was like the Ron Greshner of dekHockey, minus the money and Carol Alt.
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Problem is we have too many players with the above bolded condition, we need more guys who can drive and dominate games. I still play 2 or 3 times a week and even though I contribute on occasion, its not me that teams are worry about containing.
 
doublechili said:
My wife might have an issue with that.

I'm virtually certain that I walked by Alt when I was at Hofstra - she was there the same time as me. Missed my chance, although I was a commuter student living at home and she was probably dating some guy with a Ferrari and a chain of restaurants. :laugh:
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I was at Hofstra in the late ‘70’s and early 80’s. I assume that’s about the same time given Alt’s age.
 
Glory Days said:
I was at Hofstra in the late ‘70’s and early 80’s. I assume that’s about the same time given Alt’s age.
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Yes, I think so. FWIW, I remember leaving the student center one day on my way to a class and I saw a brunette-haired girl who was the most beautiful girl I had ever seen. It had to be her. Before you ask why I didn't make a move, there were too many other guys blocking my way. :laugh:
 
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YearlyLottery said:
I now officially declare it the offseason.
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Unfortunately no matter what is "accomplished" this offseason this is basically the same team coming back for 24-25.

Years of pain are coming up. Depending on who your GM is it can be fewer years or much longer.
 
periferal said:
Unfortunately no matter what is "accomplished" this offseason this is basically the same team coming back for 24-25.

Years of pain are coming up. Depending on who your GM is it can be fewer years or much longer.
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I think this is a super negative point of view. They need creative moves other than bring the whole team back. Just like last year if the plan is to run it back Lou has to go. The plan needs to be to shake the core up and add speed. Add speed in skating. Add speed in decision making. Add speed in the GM department of roster moves.

Hockey has never been a sport where long rebuilds are needed for a team in the position of the Islanders. Hockey is a sport where large shake ups to the core can immensely change the direction of an organization. Winnipeg and Vancouver are great examples of this. There was also a time where Boston was teetering on the edge of a rebuild and they made brilliant moves.

You forget how quickly this team went from losing Tavares and gaining bottom six players with hunger to their best run since the 1980's.
 
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periferal said:
Unfortunately no matter what is "accomplished" this offseason this is basically the same team coming back for 24-25.

Years of pain are coming up. Depending on who your GM is it can be fewer years or much longer.
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Ohhhh man, now we're getting a bit apocolyptic here.

I mean, the threat of rinse & repeat (my new fave phrase regarding Lou's summer activities) is certainly there. No doubt!

But I won't believe all the people in charge will simply let a lightly tweaked version of this year's team return as is next fall.

Alone having brought in Roy when they did tells me that they knew he may very realistically only be getting a view of what he can work with and will now have a good bit of input on what needs to be done line-upwise.

That all means - I don't think Lou gets to stay unless he's asked to change things. And if he is replaced, it will be for the prime purpose of changing things.

And I'd happily supply the organization with a to-do list of things requiring change and how that could ideally get done, should they need any suggestions. :naughty:
 
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At the beginning of the season I wanted a 4th line of Fasching-Cizikas-Gauthier to shed the Clutter/Martin salary and to get younger.

I will double down and say I would like to see a Fasching-MacLean-Gauthier 4th line next season. They're younger, hungrier and cheaper.

Then you look at the number of Centers you have - Horvat, Barzal (I know, I know), Nelson, Pageau, Cizikas. Can you find dance partners for Nelson and Pageau? Are you comfortable with Horvat - Barzal - Cizikas - MacLean down the middle in order to acquire reinforcements elsewhere?

(I'm repeating myself from May 2023).
 
Mr Misunderstood said:
At the beginning of the season I wanted a 4th line of Fasching-Cizikas-Gauthier to shed the Clutter/Martin salary and to get younger.

I will double down and say I would like to see a Fasching-MacLean-Gauthier 4th line next season. They're younger, hungrier and cheaper.

Then you look at the number of Centers you have - Horvat, Barzal (I know, I know), Nelson, Pageau, Cizikas. Can you find dance partners for Nelson and Pageau? Are you comfortable with Horvat - Barzal - Cizikas - MacLean down the middle in order to acquire reinforcements elsewhere?

(I'm repeating myself from May 2023).
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What I don’t want to see anymore of is Cizikas on the first line and Fasching on the second line. These are two guys with no hands in offensive roles. Roy has to change that.
 
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MJF said:
What I don’t want to see anymore of is Cizikas on the first line and Fasching on the second line. These are two guys with no hands in offensive roles. Roy has to change that.
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right, you would think we had a ton of injured players to send these guys up front.
Cizikas was meant to do the dirty work for Barzal and Horvat. that plan is a disaster because Barzal and Horvat had to deliver but instead they were hiding behind Cizikas and nothing came from the 1st line, it was absolutely negated by the Canes. Isles cannot win a game relying on an aged 4th line or Lee
 
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