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Roster Building XXVI: Picking Our Teeth Off The Ice

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Blueline Bomber said:
Take it with a grain of salt, but apparently we talked to Marner's agent at the deadline. He said Marner isn't interested in signing with Carolina right now, but "check back in the summer"
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He's going for the biggest money he can find.

Only chance I see of him coming to Carolina is an Orlov-type short term deal.

Edit: unless Tulsky sees Marner as that perfect fit. I could see Tulsky looking at Morrow, Nikishin, and Nadeau coming in and pushing all-in on exactly the right player. I just think that needs to be a C.
 
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MinJaBen said:
Come on now…even if there is only one team the player wants to sign with, it’s the agent’s job to get other offers to drive up the price.
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Like I said, take it with a grain of salt. The feeling I got is that his agent knows the Leafs aren't going to offer the most money. So Marner will have to decide if he wants to take less to stay with the Leafs or more to move to Carolina/Detroit/etc
 
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Blueline Bomber said:
Like I said, take it with a grain of salt. The feeling I got is that his agent knows the Leafs aren't going to offer the most money. So Marner will have to decide if he wants to take less to stay with the Leafs or more to move to Carolina/Detroit/etc
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Yeah, maybe he's going for the most money, maybe he wants very good money but won't want every last dollar if he has a chance to win. Regardless, it makes sense for him to see what's out there and we'll certainly have a competitive bid if he values winning at all.
 
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Marner will want his cake and to eat it too… he will want Leafs to pay above market for him to stay because of the Canadian dollar and taxes compared to some teams.. he will also hold the Leafs over a barrel to have full no move for the entire term…. But I also bet he won’t sign for 8 years so he can double dip like Matthew’s and hit UFA one more time when the cap is higher. Although one could argue the Matthew’s isn’t helping his next deal if this year bleeds over into future seasons and this isn’t purely because he is playing through some injury he isn’t disclosing. Matthew’s signed with the leafs thinking he would be scoring min 50+ per year every year…
 
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TheBigLetowski said:
We need a damn 2C. Marner is obviously elite, but he's going to command Rantanen + money I bet. I want a solid 2C and another big body in the top 6.
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Agree, has a team with a winger making over 12 percent of the cap ever won the cup? Maybe but I can’t think of an example offhand. Does not seem like a good idea to me.
 
Is it just a given that tavares takes a bit of a haircut to stay in toronto?

If the borg decides to do another orlov style higher dollar shorter term deal, seems we could do worse if there is any chance he'd move on (or toronto moves on). Given no one talks about him, i'm guessing i should be able to figure out the answer myself.
 
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To Be Determined said:
Is it just a given that tavares takes a bit of a haircut to stay in toronto?

If the borg decides to do another orlov style higher dollar shorter term deal, seems we could do worse if there is any chance he'd move on (or toronto moves on). Given no one talks about him, i'm guessing i should be able to figure out the answer myself.
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Obligatory post: something something, Canes pajamas . . . :D
 
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To Be Determined said:
Is it just a given that tavares takes a bit of a haircut to stay in toronto?

If the borg decides to do another orlov style higher dollar shorter term deal, seems we could do worse if there is any chance he'd move on (or toronto moves on). Given no one talks about him, i'm guessing i should be able to figure out the answer myself.
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Isn't his skating shit though these days? Could he keep up with this team?
 
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WreckingCrew said:
Isn't his skating shit though these days? Could he keep up with this team?
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Full transparency - i have no clue. I don't think of toronto as a slow team, and purely stat-gazing he's keeping up well enough to be nearly a point per game player as their 2c.

Plus, he'd help keep up rod's "old guy" boner if orlov and burns really do move on.
 
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AhosDatsyukian said:
Pretty crazy that in our last 9 playoff appearances we've won at least 1 round. Leafs have been bounced in the first round in 8 of their last 9 playoff appearances lol.
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Leaf fans and others in the Atlantic would say that our Division is very weak and the ability to win a series is not that big of an accomplishment (not sure I disagree with that).
 
I think Marner could be a style fit for the Canes for several reasons.

  1. He's an elite scorer. Would probably lead our team in points.
  2. He plays defense and can PK. We like our big boys to get minutes on the kill.
  3. Would improve the puck movement on the powerplay, perhaps dramatically.
  4. He could see Carolina as having a better chance of winning the cup as Toronto.
  5. Signing him would give us enough top 6 wing options to continue our recent strategy of having three #3 centers and surrounding them with wing talent.
  6. Maybe he prefers a quieter market to play in? I have no idea on that one. He could wear his Mickey Mouse shirt to games and no one would care.
  7. He turns 28 in May. So if we sign him for 7 years, we'd have him from age 28-35, which is a good bit better than say 30-37.
  8. We have all the capspace in the world. Certainly the most cap space of any contending team.

I don't think it will work out, but a boy can dream. I'd have Marner as my #1 target going into the offseason. A guy like Bennett is a warrior but I don't see his contract holding up as well 7 years from now as Marner's.
 
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chaz4hockey said:
Leaf fans and others in the Atlantic would say that our Division is very weak and the ability to win a series is not that big of an accomplishment (not sure I disagree with that).
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Leafs fans say a lot of things, most of them gibberish. (Although, yes, the Metro is not having the strongest year.)

And as for going after old centers, maybe Rod can give Jonathan Toews a call.
 
Bub said:
Leafs fans say a lot of things, most of them gibberish. (Although, yes, the Metro is not having the strongest year.)

And as for going after old centers, maybe Rod can give Jonathan Toews a call.
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Does Toews have anything left? I haven't heard much about how he's progressed since he was sick.
 
Bunch of Jurcos said:
Does Toews have anything left? I haven't heard much about how he's progressed since he was sick.
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No idea at all, but I'd be surprised if he's still got the legs for it. He says he's interested in giving it a shot, so maybe we'll hear more in the next couple of months.
 
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