Roster Building XXVI: Picking Our Teeth Off The Ice

[Chrispy]

Take it with a grain of salt, but apparently we talked to Marner's agent at the deadline. He said Marner isn't interested in signing with Carolina right now, but "check back in the summer"

He's going for the biggest money he can find.

Only chance I see of him coming to Carolina is an Orlov-type short term deal.

Edit: unless Tulsky sees Marner as that perfect fit. I could see Tulsky looking at Morrow, Nikishin, and Nadeau coming in and pushing all-in on exactly the right player. I just think that needs to be a C.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Come on now…even if there is only one team the player wants to sign with, it’s the agent’s job to get other offers to drive up the price.

Like I said, take it with a grain of salt. The feeling I got is that his agent knows the Leafs aren't going to offer the most money. So Marner will have to decide if he wants to take less to stay with the Leafs or more to move to Carolina/Detroit/etc

 

[cptjeff]

Like I said, take it with a grain of salt. The feeling I got is that his agent knows the Leafs aren't going to offer the most money. So Marner will have to decide if he wants to take less to stay with the Leafs or more to move to Carolina/Detroit/etc

Yeah, maybe he's going for the most money, maybe he wants very good money but won't want every last dollar if he has a chance to win. Regardless, it makes sense for him to see what's out there and we'll certainly have a competitive bid if he values winning at all.

 

[htdoc]

Marner will want his cake and to eat it too… he will want Leafs to pay above market for him to stay because of the Canadian dollar and taxes compared to some teams.. he will also hold the Leafs over a barrel to have full no move for the entire term…. But I also bet he won’t sign for 8 years so he can double dip like Matthew’s and hit UFA one more time when the cap is higher. Although one could argue the Matthew’s isn’t helping his next deal if this year bleeds over into future seasons and this isn’t purely because he is playing through some injury he isn’t disclosing. Matthew’s signed with the leafs thinking he would be scoring min 50+ per year every year…

 

[Oogie Boogie]

I just don't see us getting him.

 

[bleedgreen]

I don’t really want him. If you’re going to drop that kind of coin please let it be a center. Unless it’s EP, cause I don’t think he helps us either.

 

[Borsig]

I'd rather shake something loose with a hockey trade. Next year could be an amazing year for sure, but man the UFA market sucks outside of like 2 players.

We would do more with fixing our PP than paying some dude whos 35-38 way more than he's worth just to get to the cap.

 

[TheBigLetowski]

We need a damn 2C. Marner is obviously elite, but he's going to command Rantanen + money I bet. I want a solid 2C and another big body in the top 6.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

We need a damn 2C. Marner is obviously elite, but he's going to command Rantanen + money I bet. I want a solid 2C and another big body in the top 6.

Agree, has a team with a winger making over 12 percent of the cap ever won the cup? Maybe but I can’t think of an example offhand. Does not seem like a good idea to me.

 

[MinJaBen]

Agree, has a team with a winger making over 12 percent of the cap ever won the cup?

How many have there ever been?

 

[To Be Determined]

Is it just a given that tavares takes a bit of a haircut to stay in toronto?

If the borg decides to do another orlov style higher dollar shorter term deal, seems we could do worse if there is any chance he'd move on (or toronto moves on). Given no one talks about him, i'm guessing i should be able to figure out the answer myself.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

How many have there ever been?

To name a few: Pasta, Panarin, Marner, Kane, Benn

 

[LakeLivin]

Is it just a given that tavares takes a bit of a haircut to stay in toronto?

If the borg decides to do another orlov style higher dollar shorter term deal, seems we could do worse if there is any chance he'd move on (or toronto moves on). Given no one talks about him, i'm guessing i should be able to figure out the answer myself.

Obligatory post: something something, Canes pajamas . . .

 

[WreckingCrew]

Is it just a given that tavares takes a bit of a haircut to stay in toronto?

If the borg decides to do another orlov style higher dollar shorter term deal, seems we could do worse if there is any chance he'd move on (or toronto moves on). Given no one talks about him, i'm guessing i should be able to figure out the answer myself.

Isn't his skating shit though these days? Could he keep up with this team?

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

You never know. We're not a traditional hockey market, but we're a hockey market that traditionally wins series in the playoffs.

Pretty crazy that in our last 9 playoff appearances we've won at least 1 round. Leafs have been bounced in the first round in 8 of their last 9 playoff appearances lol.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Agree, has a team with a winger making over 12 percent of the cap ever won the cup? Maybe but I can’t think of an example offhand. Does not seem like a good idea to me.

OV - I’m guessing.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

Someone who is terrible at photoshop, make a pic of Tavares in a Canes onesie and lets whip up some FA fervor for the summer!

 

[To Be Determined]

Isn't his skating shit though these days? Could he keep up with this team?

Full transparency - i have no clue. I don't think of toronto as a slow team, and purely stat-gazing he's keeping up well enough to be nearly a point per game player as their 2c.

Plus, he'd help keep up rod's "old guy" boner if orlov and burns really do move on.

 

[dogbazinho]

Old guys seem to like the area more

 

[chaz4hockey]

Pretty crazy that in our last 9 playoff appearances we've won at least 1 round. Leafs have been bounced in the first round in 8 of their last 9 playoff appearances lol.

Leaf fans and others in the Atlantic would say that our Division is very weak and the ability to win a series is not that big of an accomplishment (not sure I disagree with that).

 

[Discipline Daddy]

I think Marner could be a style fit for the Canes for several reasons.

1. He's an elite scorer. Would probably lead our team in points.
2. He plays defense and can PK. We like our big boys to get minutes on the kill.
3. Would improve the puck movement on the powerplay, perhaps dramatically.
4. He could see Carolina as having a better chance of winning the cup as Toronto.
5. Signing him would give us enough top 6 wing options to continue our recent strategy of having three #3 centers and surrounding them with wing talent.
6. Maybe he prefers a quieter market to play in? I have no idea on that one. He could wear his Mickey Mouse shirt to games and no one would care.
7. He turns 28 in May. So if we sign him for 7 years, we'd have him from age 28-35, which is a good bit better than say 30-37.
8. We have all the capspace in the world. Certainly the most cap space of any contending team.

I don't think it will work out, but a boy can dream. I'd have Marner as my #1 target going into the offseason. A guy like Bennett is a warrior but I don't see his contract holding up as well 7 years from now as Marner's.

 

[LakeLivin]

Leaf fans and others in the Atlantic would say that our Division is very weak and the ability to win a series is not that big of an accomplishment (not sure I disagree with that).

F**k 'em, lol.