Nikishin Go Boom
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11 and Peterka would be an usual haul but maybe we get lucky and Buffalo is desperate. I doubt we see that kind of package though
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That or 11 and Quinn. Or even 11 and one of Kulich, Rosen, Savoie
LakeLivin
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I think Guentzel really would like to stay here and will take a bit of a discount; it will just come down to how much of one he's willing to accept and how attractive the higher bidding teams are (i.e., I don't see him going to a non contender regardless of how much they offer).
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The forward prospect that's most expendable to Buffalo is Rosen. He's likely the add-on in a Necas package surrounding the 11th overall. If we're lucky, maybe the Sabres are willing to trade Quinn instead because of the injuries, but IMO it's likely Rosen.
Yea I don’t see Savoie or Kulich. Quinn maybe tho? Buffalo has a lot of prospects but not all can play top 6 in Buffalo so some of them are gonna be expendable. They add Necas they’ve got him Thompson cozens Peterka tuch Benson
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That isn’t likely happening.
Nikishin Go Boom
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If we are fortunate enough to make a haul like that we need to use our 1st and other stuff to get a roster player
NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
Just to clarify, I read the LeBrun thing as a 1st round pick only being part of the deal. We almost have to get back an NHL player or NHL ready player. If it's Buffalo, then I'd think it's Peterka as our 1st choice as he replaces most of Marty's scoring. However, I can't imagine them offering that much for Necas.
If we did end up with pick #11, I think my choices would be:
1. Michael Hage
2. Konsta Helenius
3. Carter Yakemchuk
4. Cole Eiserman
5. Beckett Sennecke
Anyway, it does sound like if we don't get exactly what we want, we're more than willing to wait Necas out.
If we did end up with pick #11, I think my choices would be:
1. Michael Hage
2. Konsta Helenius
3. Carter Yakemchuk
4. Cole Eiserman
5. Beckett Sennecke
Anyway, it does sound like if we don't get exactly what we want, we're more than willing to wait Necas out.
DaveG
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Want no part of Krebs, guy is straight trash at this point. He hasn't hit the point total from Nachos 22-23 season in 3 full NHL seasons between Vegas and a desperate Buffalo team. Buffalo needs to come hard with an offer or not even bother.
And I still wouldn't make the move if we don't have Guentzel extended.
And I still wouldn't make the move if we don't have Guentzel extended.
I'm super not-high on Rosen and hope we hold-out for a better offer.
Maybe a 1st swap bridges the gap for a better spec?
Unsustainable
Seth Jarvis has Big Kahunas
I still feel a late offer of 8x8.5ish happens and Guentzel decides knowing he will be playing with Aho for the next years does it, if we add in a NMC/NTCs with it. and healthy bonus pay
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Unsustainable
Seth Jarvis has Big Kahunas
Maybe so, but you asked for upside, in the next 2 years I could see:
Nikishin - ??
Slavin - Morrow
Orlov - Chatty
But Nikishin is likely our #1 in the next 3 years and PP1
Two-way RHD. I think he's Burns replacement long-term next to Slavin as the more-offensive half of that pair.
Without anyone ever saying it, I get the sense the Canes consider their pairs situationally (two-way pair, defensive shutdown pair, ??) rather than ordinally (1st, 2nd, 3rd). Nikishin is probably the anchor long-term of the shutdown pair, though I could see Morrow there paired with him.
bleedgreen
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If we get 11 I’d assume the pick is the big piece in the deal. I wouldn’t think anything high end would be the second piece.
Nikishin Go Boom
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Trying to keep pesce means we may prefer morrow to play for the wolves
Well that doesn’t align with what they’ve said they wanted is a star package back in return. I doubt they are trading Necas for the 11th pick and just some b level prospect.
bleedgreen
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That’s a pretty good deal though. I think you’re taking the star package thing too far. When they said it on 32 thoughts the emphasis was more on that a mid round pick and a b prospect wasn’t going to get it done. I believe it was Marek who was trying to suggest something bigger slipped the word star in there. He may not have meant that like you’re taking it, or to him a top prospect would apply to that. 11th pick is potentially a star prospect. Necas and Jarvis were taken slightly later.
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I don't think Peterka or Quinn are realistic targets in a Necas trade because the GM sees them as sure things and part of the plan. Who knows, but it would be very surprising. Quinn is probably harder to get than Peterka, btw.
Thoughts on Necas as a center?
I don't think Peterka or Quinn are realistic targets in a Necas trade because the GM sees them as sure things and part of the plan. Who knows, but it would be very surprising. Quinn is probably harder to get than Peterka, btw.
Thoughts on Necas as a center?
He is just not one, really. Never played as one for the Canes and was moved from center early during his AHL career. Last time he played center was juniors I think. I don’t think he was a center during the IIHF championships either, but not certain.
Maybe he will be great and we have idiots on our coaching staff, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
bleedgreen
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We don’t know, it never happened. Offensively it would likely be great for him. He’s a creative player who thrives driving to space so wing obviously limits him and forces him to go to the middle to get that space. If he was already there he could drive wherever he wanted.
Defensively? I’d worry about how he doesn’t protect the puck very well, and about his positioning in the defensive zone. You never know though, it may be a more natural position for him in all zones.
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Seravalli has NJ as the interested party dangling the high first.
New York Rangers weighing options as captain Jacob Trouba joins the Trade Targets board
New York Rangers weighing options as captain Jacob Trouba joins the Trade Targets board
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His upside is he either becomes the next Bobby Orr, or we riot.
The choice couldn't be more clear. May he choose wisely.
