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Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVII - 5 weeks until TDL

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TheBloodyNine said:
The major problem with Lehkonen is that he's due a raise next season from his 2.3 million contract - how much are you paying him on a long term deal to be on the third line? This is where teams run into trouble. You can't pay Goodrow what we do and then also drop serious money on Lehkonen. Guys like him have their top value when they are making minimum money.
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Seems obvious to me, trade Goodrow. And replace him with Lehkonen.
 
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Thirty One said:


Vince asking the hard-hitting questions. My goodness.
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Never doubt yourself, Ryan…

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NYR Viper said:
Lehkonen makes the most sense out of most everyone being bounced around here. He is a RFA at years end which means the team can retain his services for a little while. He plays both wings. He is defensively responsible. He plays the style of game that translates to the playoffs, similar to Goodrow, because he plays a simple game thriving on winning puck battles. I've made comparisons to someone like Fedotenko in the way he plays a low-key style in the regular season but his game is more suited to less space actually and the fact that he can play either wing.

Gauthier is improving. It's pretty clear that his game is coming along even though people dislike him here. He's kind of a forgotten man due to the other young players here but his physical game has improved and he is learning how to use is size more to create space. Gorton targeted Gauthier for more than a little while when he was with Carolina. Gauthier could have a very nice role in his hometown, adding size and speed to that team along with an affordable contract during their rebuild. He should be a player Gorton would want to add.

The Rangers have (2) 2nd round picks.

Gauthier + 2nd
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Montreal needs to add a tad. A 5th Maybe. But good idea
 
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TheBloodyNine said:
The major problem with Lehkonen is that he's due a raise next season from his 2.3 million contract - how much are you paying him on a long term deal to be on the third line? This is where teams run into trouble. You can't pay Goodrow what we do and then also drop serious money on Lehkonen. Guys like him have their top value when they are making minimum money.
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What screwed us was Gorton not matching $2M per year for Fast. Lehkonen should get $2-2.5M per year. He's an excellent forechecker and defensive forward.
 
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TheBloodyNine said:
Absolutely, that's not my argument at all. But he cannot be the only reason. When he is, you get Giguere or Hextall.
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I know it's not, my comment was more for other posters. You can be down on this team maybe a tad too much but you aren't wrong in this case.
JohnC said:
I shit you not, Tampa’s goalie was voted the MVP of the entire playoffs just last year
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Exception that proves the rule! Does that phrase work here?
 
RangerBoy said:
Kravtsov for Lekhonen? The Rangers don't want to recreate the Andersson deal for a 2nd. The NHL exec made the comment in The Athletic article yesterday. Lekhonen is worth a 2nd as a rental. Kravtsov's value is a 2nd round pick. Lekhonen is a group II with arb rights this summer. How much will it cost to keep him beyond one more season? Lekhonen could be good for Kakko. A fellow countryman on the roster.

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NYR Viper said:
Lehkonen makes the most sense out of most everyone being bounced around here. He is a RFA at years end which means the team can retain his services for a little while. He plays both wings. He is defensively responsible. He plays the style of game that translates to the playoffs, similar to Goodrow, because he plays a simple game thriving on winning puck battles. I've made comparisons to someone like Fedotenko in the way he plays a low-key style in the regular season but his game is more suited to less space actually and the fact that he can play either wing.

Gauthier is improving. It's pretty clear that his game is coming along even though people dislike him here. He's kind of a forgotten man due to the other young players here but his physical game has improved and he is learning how to use is size more to create space. Gorton targeted Gauthier for more than a little while when he was with Carolina. Gauthier could have a very nice role in his hometown, adding size and speed to that team along with an affordable contract during their rebuild. He should be a player Gorton would want to add.

The Rangers have (2) 2nd round picks.

Gauthier + 2nd
for
Lehkonen
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Lets expand it...Krav,Gauthier,Barron plus Hayak for Caufield and Lehkonen
 
TheBloodyNine said:
The major problem with Lehkonen is that he's due a raise next season from his 2.3 million contract - how much are you paying him on a long term deal to be on the third line? This is where teams run into trouble. You can't pay Goodrow what we do and then also drop serious money on Lehkonen. Guys like him have their top value when they are making minimum money.
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$2.75m per season on a long term deal. You absolutely can afford to pay a very good 3rd line, swiss-army knife winger that amount. Get the term so that when the cap goes up his contract will look like a steal. He's a pretty consistent 30 point pace winger in very limited ice time (~14 minutes per game).

This organization will have good, young, skilled players on the roster. What they lack, and it seems will be difficult for them to develop, are these guys who work in tight spaces, create room for their linemates and can fill specific roles throughout the lineup. Goodrow is one example of this type of player. Lehkonen would give them another.
 
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mas0764 said:
I simply don't see this team winning without Kakko and Laf developing into stars and getting a couple young centers in here to support them.
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We may be saying the same thing here, but in my opinion, Laf and Kakko are going to have to support whoever centers them, not the other way around.

This forward corps is built on the wing. That’s not going to change unless we decide to trade one or more of Panarin, Kreider, Laf and Kakko. You can’t pay stars at every position.

If Laf and Kakko become the players they are meant to be, they will get paid, and all we’ll be able to afford is a cheap guy to stick in between them. We need to find the right cheap guy, or guys. Trading for and developing a star 2C has to come at the expense of one of the other young forwards. You can’t have stars at every position with the cap.

This is exactly what’s going on with Panarin and Strome right now. We can’t afford to keep Strome, but we also probably don’t have to because Panarin can find similar success with any no name that can skate.
 
TheBloodyNine said:
How much to retain his services? Unless you are sending money out with the deal it's going to be hard to re-sign him and all the other guys that need to be re-signed.
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Well this is where the other deals come in. Lehkonen can be retained, and it's possible term will need to be given to keep the cap hit down. The crunch is next year. What does Kaako get? Is Strome back? if so at what cap hit? We have to assume Georgiev and Nemeth will be gone. I've crunched the numbers and he can fit. Lots of moving parts though.
 
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NYR Viper said:
Well this is where the other deals come in. Lehkonen can be retained, and it's possible term will need to be given to keep the cap hit down. The crunch is next year. What does Kaako get? Is Strome back? if so at what cap hit? We have to assume Georgiev and Nemeth will be gone. I've crunched the numbers and he can fit. Lots of moving parts though.
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That's a lot of questions that need to be answered, and some a lot more important than paying a third liner.
 
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Sign and trade for Lekhonen.

Montreal gives him 2-3years 2.5-3M per and eats some cap. Then trade him to NYR.

Every penny counts
 
duhmetreE said:
Sign and trade for Lekhonen.

Montreal gives him 2-3years 2.5-3M per and eats some cap. Then trade him to NYR.

Every penny counts
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You do that and the price goes from a 2nd rounder+ to a 1st+ young roster player.
 
NYR Viper said:
$2.75m per season on a long term deal. You absolutely can afford to pay a very good 3rd line, swiss-army knife winger that amount. Get the term so that when the cap goes up his contract will look like a steal. He's a pretty consistent 30 point pace winger in very limited ice time (~14 minutes per game).
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Yes, we can afford to pay Lehkonen that much. But then the question becomes, what are we doing about the center position? Because if we are re-signing Lehkonen, then we aren't re-signing Strome, or a similar replacement.
 
Fitzy said:
You do that and the price goes from a 2nd rounder+ to a 1st+ young roster player.
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or Kravtsov

I don't know what they plan on doing with him. Obviously he'd be most valuable playing for us but at this point... we're on 2 strikes.
 
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