Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVI: The End (The Apocalypse Is Now)

[Kovalev27]

Next year

Kreider Mika Buchy
Panarin Strome Kakko
Kravtsov Chytil Gauthier
Lemieux Howden DiGi
McKegg (maybe)

on D some combo of 7 plenty of options here all should be in camp:

Lindgren Trouba Fox DeAngelo
Smith Hajek Lundkvist Miller Rykov Staal Reuanen Robertson

Shesterkin
Georgiev

Hank bought out along with Fast leaving leaves plenty of money to get everyone signed.

we shouldn’t be adding anything. Plenty of internal options ready to take next steps.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

Another young player leaning on Chris Kreider???

Yea the intangibles dont exist, no value there....

If Gauthier becomes a Kreider-lite...and we still have Kreider....wow

Almost like when people were tearing up Nash. It was clear Nash did a lot to help mentor Kreider and Kreider has gone from shit to his own end to not being a liability and makes much smarter plays.

Kaako and Kravstov should stay in N. America this summer and do the Kreider bootcamp.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I can pretty much guarantee that there is a defenseman who is playing for someone else right now who will be in our top 6 and a forward or 2 who will be on our 3rd and 4th lines.

We aren't rolling with basically the same crew plus a few rookies next year.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Since Toronto's pick they traded to Carolina is top 10 protected, if Toronto ends up in the top 10 and Carolina wins the draft lottery. Would that mean we get Carolina's 1st overall pick?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Since Toronto's pick they traded to Carolina is top 10 protected, if Toronto ends up in the top 10 and Carolina wins the draft lottery. Would that mean we get Carolina's 1st overall pick?

Yes

 

[Irishguy42]

Since Toronto's pick they traded to Carolina is top 10 protected, if Toronto ends up in the top 10 and Carolina wins the draft lottery. Would that mean we get Carolina's 1st overall pick?

Yupppppppppp

 

[Avery16]

I expect him to be one of the remaining call ups.

 

[Avery16]

Almost like when people were tearing up Nash. It was clear Nash did a lot to help mentor Kreider and Kreider has gone from shit to his own end to not being a liability and makes much smarter plays.

Kaako and Kravstov should stay in N. America this summer and do the Kreider bootcamp.

I think people were tearing up Nash because 10% of the cap is too much to allocate for a locker room mentor and PK forechecker.

 

[Kovalev27]

Man just looking at the ufa class this summer Jesper Fast is the 5th highest scoring available player under 30 on the list. Someone’s going to pay him.

Hall Krug Toffoli Barrie only guys with more points still in their 20s.

 

[RGY]

I expect him to be one of the remaining call ups.

Where does he play. I dont think he is a fit for this roster right now as its constructed. DiGuiseppe, Gauthier, Lemieux, Kakko are your bottom 6 wingers. He should not be playing over any of them.

 

[Avery16]

Where does he play. I dont think he is a fit for this roster right now as its constructed. DiGuiseppe, Gauthier, Lemieux, Kakko are your bottom 6 wingers. He should not be playing over any of them.

Injuries, maintenance days, performance-related scratches.

 

[rangers1314]

I can pretty much guarantee that there is a defenseman who is playing for someone else right now who will be in our top 6 and a forward or 2 who will be on our 3rd and 4th lines.

We aren't rolling with basically the same crew plus a few rookies next year.

Not to sound like an ass, but isn't that the changes most teams see season to season?

We should be looking for a D-man to play in our Top-four, not Six. And a forward to play in our top-six, not bottom-six.

 

[Fitzy]

No thanks to playing Kravtsov on his off wing.

We need to leave space on the left wing for when we sign Ovechkin in the summer of 2021.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

I fully admit I softened a tiny bit on re-signing Kreider once we traded for Gauthier. I see a lot of overlap in their game and Gauthier has a much better shot in his bag than Kreids ever did.

He should be a great mentor for him.

Same here. Kreider and Gauthier really are the types of players this roster lacked. Could've had zero, now have two. Dealing from a position of strength on defense is much more palatable, even if there may be a gap in timing for when we start seeing some reinforcements there.

 

[romba]

Not to sound like an ass, but isn't that the changes most teams see season to season?

We should be looking for a D-man to play in our Top-four, not Six. And a forward to play in our top-six, not bottom-six.

And if some of our young guys take the next step and force the newly signed top 6 forward to slot downward, all the better (as long as we're ok capwise of course and the guy doesn't mope about it)

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Not to sound like an ass, but isn't that the changes most teams see season to season?

We should be looking for a D-man to play in our Top-four, not Six. And a forward to play in our top-six, not bottom-six.

Yes, but that was my point. I've seen a ton of speculative rosters for next year which are basically this team, minus some deadweight, plus guys currently in Hartford.

I think we can swing our top 6 as I'm banking on some forward progression from Kakko/Chytil. The 3rd and 4th line however need some work and we're going to have to reach outside of the organization to handle that.

 

[rangers1314]

Yes, but that was my point. I've seen a ton of speculative rosters for next year which are basically this team, minus some deadweight, plus guys currently in Hartford.

I think we can swing our top 6 as I'm banking on some forward progression from Kakko/Chytil. The 3rd and 4th line however need some work and we're going to have to reach outside of the organization to handle that.

I get you - a guy I've always really liked from afar is Carl Soderberg. He's versatile. Good defensively. Solid production.

He'll probably get more than we're willing to pay in FA, but a guy like that is who we should be targeting.

 

[RGY]

Injuries, maintenance days, performance-related scratches.

I dont see it happening. Mckegg/Howden is seemingly the extra for all the items you listed unless the injury is long time to a scoring forward. And he wont be called up as part of a taxi squad if they make the playoffs because Hartford will be in the playoffs.

 

[Off Sides]

Unless they want to lose at least one of what will be relatively expensive RFA extensions, or Buchnevich, I don't see how they fit this top 4 LD in the cap, along with improved lower liners, unless the dead weight portion is reduced quite a bit.

I am going to miss any of or two of DeAngelo, Buchnevich, Georgiev.

 

[duhmetreE]

Next year

Kreider Mika Buchy
Panarin Strome Kakko
Kravtsov Chytil Gauthier
Lemieux Howden DiGi
McKegg (maybe)

on D some combo of 7 plenty of options here all should be in camp:

Lindgren Trouba Fox DeAngelo
Smith Hajek Lundkvist Miller Rykov Staal Reuanen Robertson

Shesterkin
Georgiev

Hank bought out along with Fast leaving leaves plenty of money to get everyone signed.

we shouldn’t be adding anything. Plenty of internal options ready to take next steps.

I was in the 'keep Strome camp' ( albeit for a year or two ) but the lack of checking center has become glaring.

Lias was suppose to be that guy. Howden was and still is suppose to be that guy. A plug until he's ready would help.

Losing Fast hurts our defense/PK even more.

Bump up Chytil and replace Strome with a Bonino type.

Kreider Mika Buch
Panarin Chytil Kakko
Lemieux Bonino Kravtsov
Barron Howden Gauthier

'Bonino type' doesn't mean it has to Bonino. Who PKs? I wouldn't mind seeing Gauthier get some PK time.

This is all dependent on what the Salary cap is next season and what HL does. If he retires, we're gucci.

 

[JimmyG89]

Matt Nieto is a guy that would be an interesting add for this team, if they're exploring free agency as the source of filling in those bottom 6 slots. Plays with speed and is a PK guy. Not much more than that 25 point player, but if Fast goes for more than we want, maybe Nieto is the type of player that could replace his role.

Just feel like we'd be adding players that are blocking slots for the kids we already have. I could see maybe 1 free agent signing for the bottom 6 and maybe then a few guys that are fringe players that would be able to pass to Hartford if the kids are ready.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Few years ago there were ad nauseam discussions of what’s more important top quality or depth. In reality you need both. In this regard it’s not only your top line, not only top two lines but quality that even spills into the third line is needed. Today it looks like the Rangers figured out their top line and LW on the second. The rest are up and comers with a very good shot based on glimpses that we’ve seen. Fast forward two years from now, if the development continues as expected for some of our top prospects, the Rangers could be able to go with

Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Panarin - Strome - Kakko
Gauthier - Chytil - Kravtsov
Lemieux - Barron - Howden

Depth of quality.

Both elite talent and depth are important but, in theory and in practice for the Rangers, the elite talent was always more difficult to obtain and cultivate.

Panarin, Zibanejad, and an emerging Kakko in that top 6 for at least a couple more years should make every Ranger fan smile.

 

[aufheben]

Strome seems like a great teammate, and his production would be missed, but giving him a new contract would be a serious error. Are we really going to pay him almost as much as Kreider just to ride shotgun with Panarin? If he was going to get paid like a #3C that’d be one thing. Sell high and trade him for like Radek Faksa or something.

 

[kovazub94]

Both elite talent and depth are important but, in theory and in practice for the Rangers, the elite talent was always more difficult to obtain and cultivate.

Panarin, Zibanejad, and an emerging Kakko in that top 6 for at least a couple more years should make every Ranger fan smile.

Definitely, and hopefully Gorton will find a way to keep all the talent together for at least a couple of years before attrition due to salary cap constrain begins.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

While I am sure that Kakko, Chytil and Kravtsov will take steps forward and am sure that management is expecting them to, I doubt that they are expecting them to equal Buch's production. Not next year. And frankly they are counting on those type of players to have their own production, not use it as a supplement for loosing another source.

I do not disagree. I think that the team was going forward with either him or Kreider, not both. I just believe that if and when he is traded that it will only be for future considerations and not a young player that can instantly go into the line up.

In his 3rd full pro season, if Chytil is far from -45 pt., he might always be. Kravtsov, no expectations. Kakko will put up 2nd line numbers.