Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXV: Calm Before the Storm

[rangers1314]

No!

• Martin Kaut / Shane Bowers
• Tyson Jost
• 2020 COL 1st

Shall we send in the paperwork, buddy?

Throw in a 2021 3rd that becomes your 2021 2nd if you reach the WCF this year and you have a deal.

 

[Off Sides]

I am not even a big Jost fan, yet I sort of think maybe something could be there, Kaut as well, not my favorite, 1st is 1st, I'd take that versus signing Kreider to anything like 6.5m x 6 or 7

 

[RangersFan1994]

Chances on Kreider signs with his new team like Mark Stone did to give Rangers more back in a trade?

 

[egelband]

The 1st was a 2021 according to Richard Banger. I don't see Gorton accepting that. There will absolutely be a 2020 1st on the table. And the prospect that was added isn't worth anything. Colorado drafted him in the 5th round and then ended up signing him to an AHL deal. He has played 45 games in the ECHL and has 17 points.

That entire "offer" looked like something a Colorado fan put together.

Taking a page from the Leafs fan forum.

 

[NYRKING30]

Let’s get a deal done tomorrow, friends.

Kreider to Colorado. Come on.

Take Hank too please and go win the cup.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I’d rather get one bluechip prospect or young roster player than a bust & a pick that’s years away from playing in the NHL.

 

[egelband]

No!

• Martin Kaut / Shane Bowers
• Tyson Jost
• 2020 COL 1st

Shall we send in the paperwork, buddy?

My instinct is we could get more. Assuming there really is a bidding war there should be better prospects/picks available.

 

[Trxjw]

Jost, Kaut and a 2020 1st would be a very solid return for Kreider. Two middle-six options that make it easier to focus on moving other assets for top-end guys.

 

[Trxjw]

I’d rather get one bluechip prospect or young roster player than a bust & a pick that’s years away from playing in the NHL.

Ah yes. One of those really common bluechip prospect for rental trades.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

This was pretty boring, I don't think there's a screenplay here.

Wait, wait, wait. It's a work in process. I can make it better!

In the next scene, uh, a Kreider stalker shows up at Gorts' office with a gun and half a pound of cinnamon. He locks them in the office together, forces him to eat the cinnamon until he cries uncle and agrees to Keator's last offer...

But wait! It's now 2:58!

Can they get the paperwork together in time? Will the SWAT team that just arrived in response to Drury's call mess it all up?

AND WILL NO ONE THINK OF BUCHNEVICH?

 

[egelband]

Regarding the Kreider negotiation, it's really not all that hard to infer how it all went down:

Keator came in saying, "I need $8MM x 7 or $7MM x 8." Something along those lines.

Gorts said, "well, I can go $7MM or even a little more, but not on anything longer than 5 years."

Small moves back and forth to final positions.

Keator: "okay, we can do $7MM x 7."

Gorts: "I can go another year to 6, but then we need to bring the price down to a $6.5MM AAV."

They've both given a fair amount, but a sizable gap remains. If the deal's going to get done, someone will need to make a second big shift, and I may be wrong on this, but I don't think it happens, because they're both already in uncomfortable territory.

This sounds about right. Six years being the stretch for JG. $7m being the AAV CK requires. I would guess someone ponies up $7.5x6 in free agency. Maybe even another year.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Again, Wahlstrom is the funniest possible trade

 

[OthmannOut]

This was pretty boring, I don't think there's a screenplay here.

ext. MSG
int. Gorton's Office

Gorton sits at his desk, posed with his hands folded over his mouth, deep in thought.
A clock is shown, 9:19PM.
Gorton sighs and leans back. He looks at the ceiling and shakes his head.

Gorton [voiceover]: They say a man dies twice -- when he stop breathing, and when his name is mentioned for the last time.

Gorton gets up and looks out the window, peering between the open shades.

[voiceover cont'd]: But when does a man become alive?

 

[Thirty One]

I’d rather get one bluechip prospect or young roster player than a bust & a pick that’s years away from playing in the NHL.

I'll take the bust, thanks.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Ah yes. One of those really common bluechip prospect for rental trades.

I don’t mean a franchise level talent but we can do better than someone who’s 22 & bordering on bust status. A prospect in the vain of a Wahlstrom, Podkolzin, etc

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Can I just say how hilarious that Larry Brooks' section on Marc Staal was. "Rangers willing to take calls on Marc Staal."


Yeah, like teams are breaking our door down to try to get Marc Staal

 

[RGY]

 

[LORDE]

So Gorts overplayed his hand again then???

 

[Trxjw]

I don’t mean a franchise level talent but we can do better than someone who’s 22 & bordering on bust status. A prospect in the vain of a Wahlstrom, Podkolzin, etc

It's just not going to happen. Those kinds of prospects do not get traded for rentals.

 

[Tawnos]

So Gorts overplayed his hand again then???

Cant believe he didn’t get Bogosian.

 

[Thirty One]

So Gorts overplayed his hand again then???

I'm sure that will be the story thrown around. I think the real story is some of the prices being bandied around were so ridiculous that there was bound to be widespread disappointment.

 

[gravey9]

He's always reminded me of Max Afinogenov. Lots of speed and might have a few high scoring years, but he's going to be a mess to coach and keep in your organization.

Love AA's speed, but he's really invisible most of the time out there. He's disniterested on D and really lacks a complete game. He's a hard pass for me.

 

[Fireonk]

So Gorts overplayed his hand again then???

So, we just aren't going to even see what happens now before complaining?

 

[EdJovanovski]

It's just not going to happen. Those kinds of prospects do not get traded for rentals.

Even in a one for one swap? What about Kreider w/ extension?

 

[mike14]

So, we just aren't going to even see what happens now before complaining?

Situation normal then.....