Speculation: Roster building thread XXIV:

[RGY]

My formula for this long multi paragraph post.

Kapanen = Grabner - Penalty Killing Abilities

Kapanen is still only 24 with NHL experience and adds depth for multiple years. Could be worse options.

 

[Avery16]

Heres a question- can Kreider win in the fastest skater competition tonight?

 

[offdacrossbar]

If the rangers don’t figure out a way to re sign players and manage the cap what you’ll have is a team of guys who’ve never played a meaningful playoff game . Veterans are a huge part of every championship team . When you are ready to compete you have a team of young guys who don’t know what it takes to win . Unless you’re replacing Kreider with a player of the same stats and character your going backwards . HF boards where the mystery box draft pick is better than the guy who’s proven his worth to the team .

first off.

WELCOME TO THE ASYLUM

sounds good but you paying CK top $$ for the next 6-7 years ?

didnt want that with khayes and he was younger.

CK is a valuable player no doubt but for what he will cost and what he will return plus cap room to sign younger core guys ?

Sayonara

 

[Thirty One]

Heres a question- can Kreider win in the fastest skater competition tonight?

There's a skills competition thread where the answer (no) is being discussed.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Heres a question- can Kreider win in the fastest skater competition tonight?

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I doubt it. Kreider has great straight ahead speed but isn't the most agile guy in the world.

 

[Tossed Medal]

first off.

WELCOME TO THE ASYLUM

sounds good but you paying CK top $$ for the next 6-7 years ?

didnt want that with khayes and he was younger.

CK is a valuable player no doubt but for what he will cost and what he will return plus cap room to sign younger core guys ?

Sayonara

Thsnks I’m a returning member . I used to be on .

 

[Mac n Gs]

Thsnks I’m a returning member . I used to be on .

Oh, cool. Which formerly banned poster are you?

 

[Tossed Medal]

I don’t kiss and tell

 

[Edge]

Where did all this Skjei to Carolina stuff come from? They want a RD.

Nothing on the table right now, just that Carolina has asked about him.

I am going to guess some of it is not being entirely thrilled with Gardiner to this point, and some of it possibly being tied to wanting another vet blue-liner with Hamilton out.

Broadly speaking, I will re-state that Skjei has more interested around the league than some might think. I'd also emphasize that it would seem, based on rumblings here and there, that the Rangers have a significant hesitancy in moving him --- at least right now.

 

[Tossed Medal]

I just don’t see how the rangers desire to get more north south and not miss the playoffs a third year ( this year is inevitable) works out without our best north south player and for that matter locker room leader Gone . 7x7 is a tough pull to swallow for a team with players to sign and up against the cap but they gotta figure some other players to let go and replace from within or through trade .
kaako , Chytil , Kravstov are all still years away from being impactful . Chytil Is making the most strides but still from what I see is really still 2-3 away from breaking out much like Zib

 

[NYSPORTS]

Shame they don’t have a MULE award for the skater dragging himself the slowest around the ice. Marc Staal would win that

 

[E-Train]

Frankly, the Rangers and Canes match up perfectly. Georgiev, Skjei, Kreider, Fast...Carolina could use all of them.

I’d like to see this become the modern Gilmour-Leeman deal. 5 for 5.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Nothing on the table right now, just that Carolina has asked about him.

I am going to guess some of it is not being entirely thrilled with Gardiner to this point, and some of it possibly being tied to wanting another vet blue-liner with Hamilton out.

Broadly speaking, I will re-state that Skjei has more interested around the league than some might think. I'd also emphasize that it would seem, based on rumblings here and there, that the Rangers have a significant hesitancy in moving him --- at least right now.

Im sure Skjei does have significant interest around the league. That contract the Rangers gave him might scare some suitors away, however.

 

[Thirty One]

I don’t kiss and tell

Hmmm.

What are your thoughts on:
- Derek Stepan
- rap music

 

[Edge]

Im sure Skjei does have significant interest around the league. That contract the Rangers gave him might scare some suitors away, however.

Don't think it's an issue at all, based on what I've heard.

 

[Tossed Medal]

Shame they don’t have a MULE award for the skater dragging himself the slowest around the ice. Marc Staal would win that

 

[bobbop]

I just don't see why they aren't already setup to have a full building come playoff time for the next 5 years. Seems very short sighted to me for them to try and make major moves for this year alone. But hey, hope I am wrong....

First of all, they still have to make the playoffs. Easier said than done.

Second, they have to continue to work to fill the building. It’s not automatic in that market by any means.

The Hurricanes are far from over the hump.

 

[Lays]

Where did all this Skjei to Carolina stuff come from? They want a RD.

Canes have inquired on Brodin and Dillon as well. That’d be pretty interesting but I’m not sure what they’ll do with him after this year

Slavin-Hamilton
Gardiner-Pesce
Edmundson-TVR
Fleury
Bean

Their worst dman is a solid bottom pairing guy (TVR.) And Edmunson is a solid defensive defenseman 4-5 D. Bean is lighting up the AHL and Fleury was their 7th overall.

 

[bobbop]

Nothing on the table right now, just that Carolina has asked about him.

I am going to guess some of it is not being entirely thrilled with Gardiner to this point, and some of it possibly being tied to wanting another vet blue-liner with Hamilton out.

Broadly speaking, I will re-state that Skjei has more interested around the league than some might think. I'd also emphasize that it would seem, based on rumblings here and there, that the Rangers have a significant hesitancy in moving him --- at least right now.

Off season trade bait

 

[RangerBoy]

A few general thoughts about some of the ongoing conversations in this thread:

1. Being a smaller defenseman isn't a death sentence in today's NHL. But having a RD comprised of ADA, Fox, Lundkvist and/or Keane would present a lot of struggles. Balance will be the key.

2. Regarding listed heights/weights of players, it's a very political subject. Having worked on media guides in my past life, you're dealing with perceived size standards for positions, agents wanting their clients to be listed different, teams wanting guys' vitals changed, etc. That's why Brian Leetch went from 5'11, 185 to 6'1, 200 magically in his late 20s. I think during the height of the LOD in Philadelphia, Mark Messier suddenly became 6'2. It still happens today. Teams are leery about some weights being listed too low or too high, and 6'0 is still a threshold in the sport.

3. So here's the latest I have on the trade fronts:

• San Jose stepping up talks about Georgiev. Toronto still very interested.
• Boston and Rangers actively swapping names re: Kreider. Colorado still very interested.
• Dallas, Nashville and St. Louis among the teams kicking the tires on Fast.
• Calgary has asked about Andersson a few times.
• Nothing doing with Edmonton at the moment.
• Carolina has asked about a few guys, including Georgiev and Skjei.

Colorado is the better fit. Jost was a big time player coming out of North Dakota. His game was compared to Toews. The Rangers have 21 games after the trading deadline. Give Jost a run at center. He has had trouble making his mark in Colorado.

Boston has a better opportunity than Colorado to win their division. The Avs pick will be a better #1 unless the Avs win their division &/or become a final 4 team in the spring.

 

[rangers1314]

Skjei has 4 years left after this, the last 3 include a modified NTC, 10 team "no" list.

Out of curiosity - when was the last time a player with that much term left on their deal traded midseason?

He seems like a summer time move, if moved at all.

 

[Fitzy]

Shame they don’t have a MULE award for the skater dragging himself the slowest around the ice. Marc Staal would win that

I still want to see Haley versus a goaltender and am pissed that I'm not getting it.

 

[EpicDing]

Nothing on the table right now, just that Carolina has asked about him.

I am going to guess some of it is not being entirely thrilled with Gardiner to this point, and some of it possibly being tied to wanting another vet blue-liner with Hamilton out.

Broadly speaking, I will re-state that Skjei has more interested around the league than some might think. I'd also emphasize that it would seem, based on rumblings here and there, that the Rangers have a significant hesitancy in moving him --- at least right now.

I can see that all lining up for sure, and I definitely don't question his value. I just think I'd be pretty mad if I was a Canes fan and my GM paid good assets for a $5.25 million LD who'd be 3rd pairing when completely healthy.

Just a weird ask from the Canes for what seems like it needs a band aid over a long term solution, unless they see him or someone else on their roster as a potential RD?

Gerogiev makes total sense, as would Kreider and Fast to a degree, but I can't see Skjei.

 

[Trxjw]

The Flames are supposedly hunting hard for a RH shot that isn't a rental. Wonder if they'd ask about Strome.

 

[Fireonk]

First of all, they still have to make the playoffs. Easier said than done.

Second, they have to continue to work to fill the building. It’s not automatic in that market by any means.

The Hurricanes are far from over the hump.

Not arguing. But generally you dont go fishing for playoff rentals until you think you are over the hump, or at least that one player away from being there. As much as I like Kreider he isn't the guy to do that for them (and Fast certainly isn't.)