Speculation: Roster building thread XXIII: Heading into doldrum days and All Star break

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I get the argument, but I also don't think they are going to let Hank sit for that long. We'll see what happens, I guess.
I’d be pissed as F if hank starts the isles game. That game has playoff implications all over it and georgie’s Been money against them twice in a week.

I mean WTF is this? A retirement league? We’re in the business of giving ourselves a competitive disadvantage to make the guy who had a career everyone would dream of happy?
 
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The next time the leafs gamble on potential will be the first. They're scared to death of the media and the fans.
Seriously

It’s funny that they are making it sound like they are looking for a backup goalie. They are gonna miss the playoffs bc they don’t have a goalie period it seems.

And it’s amazing the one trade they made was bring in more of what they had with Barrie. What an arrogant organization and fan base. They are actually deserve everything that happens.

You lucked into a 1OA. You lucked into Tavares wanting to sign with you. Yet you’ll still hording your players saying we’re smarter than you guys. We’ll find our moves and we don’t have to make any trades that hurt.

The big HURT is gonna come two mays from now when they are still O’fer
 
I would be very curious to see what Toronto offers for a package of Skjei/Georgiev/Andersson.
Me too, but that’d be a hell of a trade for a contender to pull off mid season, especially lacking a 1st round pick and without any big time prospects banging down the door to play in the NHL. Would definitely require at least one good young player off their current squad and more likely two.
 
Yeah, and this is part of what I was alluding to earlier when I posted about how Geo still also is a bit unproven...I love Geo, and is so impressed with especially his professionalism and how he manage to be unaffected by whatever. But I am not in the corner of “we can’t trade him because he is the man”...

Actually not wanting to trade Georgiev is more of an argument that we don’t know if Shesterkin is the man (or more of “the man” than Georgi), where your point also supports not trading at this time.
 
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Shesterkin tonight and Georgiev on Tuesday. The Rangers don't play again until January 31. Lundqvist's last start was on January 11. If he plays one of the two Detroit games on 1/31 & 2/2, one start in three weeks. I like the Rangers strategy. They are ****ing with Henrik's mind.

Nobody is f***ing with Henrik’s mind “intentionally” as it would be a case if Georgiev were made a clear started and Henrik - a clear backup playing once every 2-3 weeks during October - December.

But Shesterkin played well in Hartford to earn a spot with the varsity and Georgiev played well here to get to the point where he can’t be sent to Hartford any longer. So it’s a 3-goalie set that came about “naturally” and Hank has to deal with and think about how it impacts his future here.
 
The amount of vitriol around here for a guy that's arguably the greatest Ranger to ever put on the sweater is truly remarkable. The guy has kept his chin up, been a great teammate/mentor, accepted his role for the betterment of the team as it's redefining itself, and said nothing but great things about the organization his entire career. And people like you **** on him because of his salary and he's not what he was at 28 when he's 37. It's really disappointing. And it's not just you.

It's despicable. Deep down, I actually support a strategy of gently forcing Lundqvist's hand regarding his future, but the guy has more than earned reverence and respect if he is indeed on the way out.
 
It's despicable. Deep down, I actually support a strategy of gently forcing Lundqvist's hand regarding his future, but the guy has more than earned reverence and respect if he is indeed on the way out.

I like the computer that generates factual posts and finds obscure connections, but the human admin that gets through sometimes is an asshole.
 
“New York is a tough town to grow old in” — Gary Carter

The amount of vitriol around here for a guy that's arguably the greatest Ranger to ever put on the sweater is truly remarkable. The guy has kept his chin up, been a great teammate/mentor, accepted his role for the betterment of the team as it's redefining itself, and said nothing but great things about the organization his entire career. And people like you **** on him because of his salary and he's not what he was at 28 when he's 37. It's really disappointing. And it's not just you.
The contempt for a mount rushmore ranger, that ultimately is rooted in a contract management freely gave, is shameful. And why? This isn't a cup team in the next 18 months.

The cap issues are a domino effect since Drury was bought out. Buy out Richards for cap relief. Buy out Girardi because you need the Richards room. Buy out Shattenkirk because you need the Girardi room. The can was kicked down the road for years. Here we are paying the piper.

Lundqvist asked for the 8 years and NMC, so the situation is on him as much as management. But he is being a trooper. He is playing better than his contemporaries as they age as well. He is competitive. He isn't complaining or causing problems. This will get resolved. Why do people have so much venom? Because of impatience? Grow up.
 
Since Shesterkin's recall, he has played 2 games and Georgiev has played 2 games. Hank has been the backup in every one of those games. That isn't a coincidence. They aren't going to put him in the press box unless he is injured. The Rangers are doing their best to manage everything, and Quinn has said that it's difficult, because he wants to get everyone time, but he also wants to reward someone who is playing well. It does make sense to let Georgiev play against the Islanders, given what he has done against them the last 2 games. But at the same time, if Hank doesn't play, it will be 20 days between starts. If he doesn't play against the Islanders, I think he gets the first game out of the break, and maybe both, against Detroit.
 
Since Shesterkin's recall, he has played 2 games and Georgiev has played 2 games. Hank has been the backup in every one of those games. That isn't a coincidence. They aren't going to put him in the press box unless he is injured. The Rangers are doing their best to manage everything, and Quinn has said that it's difficult, because he wants to get everyone time, but he also wants to reward someone who is playing well. It does make sense to let Georgiev play against the Islanders, given what he has done against them the last 2 games. But at the same time, if Hank doesn't play, it will be 20 days between starts. If he doesn't play against the Islanders, I think he gets the first game out of the break, and maybe both, against Detroit.

they aren't going to put Hank in the press box...but at the same time Shesterkin & Georgiev probably benefit more sitting in the press box watching the game with Benny then sitting at the end of the bench.
 
It's despicable. Deep down, I actually support a strategy of gently forcing Lundqvist's hand regarding his future, but the guy has more than earned reverence and respect if he is indeed on the way out.
I do think the ASB will be a major crossroads for the 3 headed dragon. This could legitimately end with either Georgiev or Lundqvist traded. Henrik will have the break to contemplate his future. Risk playing out the year with this rotation, miss out on 2 cup runs, or pick your spot and be competitive.

On the flip side, front offices will have the time to access their creases. Address a need or roll the dice on your goalies.

I'm just appreciating the fact that we turned another UDFA into a valuable asset.
 
I don’t really think Georgiev for a young middle sixer is that easy of a swap. It would be a really short sighted move, something this team and fan base have been very guilty of. Kappanen is a nice player, but who has a much greater impact on the the game itself? It’s obviously the goalie. We’ve seen plenty of good and great teams struggle with crappy goaltending. I don’t force a goalie move since a rebuilding team like this is in a much better position long term with 2 solid options, and Shesty is still unproven at this level. I would much rather keep both goalies then to giveaway a potential impact goalie like Georgiev to solve some silly roster issue now. It would have to be an overpayment, and even then it still might not be the shrewdest.
 
I know people will freak out anyway, but don't be surprised if Shesterkin gets sent back down in the next few days. he likely won't dress tuesday and the rangers aren't playing again till the 31st...the AHL allstar game is the 27th...so I expect him to be sent back down during the week so he can start against Bridgeport on Friday and then play in the allstar game on Monday
 
I don’t really think Georgiev for a young middle sixer is that easy of a swap. It would be a really short sighted move, something this team and fan base have been very guilty of. Kappanen is a nice player, but who has a much greater impact on the the game itself? It’s obviously the goalie. We’ve seen plenty of good and great teams struggle with crappy goaltending. I don’t force a goalie move since a rebuilding team like this is in a much better position long term with 2 solid options, and Shesty is still unproven at this level. I would much rather keep both goalies then to giveaway a potential impact goalie like Georgiev to solve some silly roster issue now. It would have to be an overpayment, and even then it still might not be the shrewdest.
Considering what goalies have got in the past, Kapanen/Johnsson would be actually be a great return for Georgiev. We need wingers too, especially when we trade Kreider and AJ/Kap are versatile middle 6 wingers that are like Fast but much more skilled
 
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Considering what goalies have got in the past, Kapanen/Johnsson would be actually be a great return for Georgiev. We need wingers too, especially when we trade Kreider and AJ/Kap are versatile middle 6 wingers that are like Fast but much more skilled
I get all that and have seen plenty of the goalie trades. But as I said, who has the greater impact on the game? Depth wingers or goalies? Yes it’s helpful getting a nice young winger now, I get that, but is it really the smart move for this team now. I don’t know if it is, to me Georgiev is already an impact goalie now.
 
Since Shesterkin's recall, he has played 2 games and Georgiev has played 2 games. Hank has been the backup in every one of those games. That isn't a coincidence. They aren't going to put him in the press box unless he is injured. The Rangers are doing their best to manage everything, and Quinn has said that it's difficult, because he wants to get everyone time, but he also wants to reward someone who is playing well. It does make sense to let Georgiev play against the Islanders, given what he has done against them the last 2 games. But at the same time, if Hank doesn't play, it will be 20 days between starts. If he doesn't play against the Islanders, I think he gets the first game out of the break, and maybe both, against Detroit.

If the unthinkable happens and have waives what team makes sense at 50 off?

Carolina ?
 
Shesterkin tonight and Georgiev on Tuesday. The Rangers don't play again until January 31. Lundqvist's last start was on January 11. If he plays one of the two Detroit games on 1/31 & 2/2, one start in three weeks. I like the Rangers strategy. They are ****ing with Henrik's mind.
Jesus, they are not “f***ing” with Henrik’s mind. I know you would like to believe that as the heartless robot you are that is getting giddy at the thought of it.
 
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