Speculation: Roster Building Thread XLVI: Dog Days Pending

[Irishguy42]

The way I read it was that this is probably the last chance for Girardi. They will see how he performs once fully healthy, and, if it fails, I would hope he is as good as gone.

Obviously, I wish he was gone now because there is no way he will return to what he used to be. But, with a fully healed kneecap, he cannot be as bad as he was last year, can he?

Other than that, though, I am really intrigued. I think it will at least be an interesting offseason.

I definitely think this is a reason. Both Staal and Girardi will have the benefit of a full off season if healing and training. So it's worth giving them at least one more year.

I wonder how they'll look at managing Girardis time off the first line, as it looks like Brooks is alluding to that.

 

[Trxjw]

Hopefully their "serious interest" results in this level return.

Wonder if we sent Klein with Stepan and took back Vanek it would get to that level of return. One year left on Vanek's deal, and if he played at a reasonable level could be a decent deadline asset. Gives them a RHD on a good contract who fits into their "win now" mode.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Girardi was bad before 15-16. If the Rangers think his injuries are the main thing for why he stunk they are sorely mistaken

 

[SA16]

Good chance he'll be worse. Just another year older with extra wear and tear.

 

[NYR Viper]

If Gorton was rebuilding, I'd bring in Vanek with Minnesota retaining a bit, say 2 million, and then I'd flip him at half of what's left at the deadline for a pick. If they're smart, they would use their endless bucket of money to speed up a rebuild like this.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Good chance he'll be worse. Just another year older with extra wear and tear.

Exactly. The only justification to keep him is so he counts toward the expansion cap hit. Otherwise he should not be on a team trying to win.

 

[Machinehead]

Reports are they won't move Girardi but they'll listen to offers on McDonagh and Brassard.

What the literal fee fi fo **** is going on with this hockey team?

 

[E-Train]

Wonder if we sent Klein with Stepan and took back Vanek it would get to that level of return. One year left on Vanek's deal, and if he played at a reasonable level could be a decent deadline asset. Gives them a RHD on a good contract who fits into their "win now" mode.

I think it could play out like that.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Reports are they won't move Girardi but they'll listen to offers on McDonagh and Brassard.

What the literal fee fi fo **** is going on with this hockey team?

Why are you surprised

 

[Machinehead]

Why are you surprised

Because I've seen some ****, but even by Rangers standards this is a new one.

They actually think Girardi is better than McDonagh. The people running this team, like, actually think that. Like....I don't have the words.

 

[Trxjw]

Reports are they won't move Girardi but they'll listen to offers on McDonagh and Brassard.

What the literal fee fi fo **** is going on with this hockey team?

They're thinking beyond next season? Seriously, why is this so upsetting for people and why is the Girardi thing so hard to understand?

 

[Trxjw]

Because I've seen some ****, but even by Rangers standards this is a new one.

They actually think Girardi is better than McDonagh. The people running this team, like, actually think that. Like....I don't have the words.

You're freaking joking, right? You can't honestly believe that's what they think.

 

[Machinehead]

They're thinking beyond next season? Seriously, why is this so upsetting for people and why is the Girardi thing so hard to understand?

They're thinking beyond next season? How? I don't see where they're thinking at all.

 

[Machinehead]

You're freaking joking, right? You can't honestly believe that's what they think.

They will not move Girardi and they're listening to offers on McDonagh.

Dan Girardi has been the Rangers most used defenseman at even strength for the last ten years. What indication is there that they wouldn't think that?

 

[we want cup]

It seems like the main reason they wouldnt be shopping Girardi would be that he won't agree to waive his NMC. Isn't that enough to explain this?

 

[Machinehead]

Even in 2016 when Girardi was visibly spewing black death all over the ice, he played more minutes.

 

[Machinehead]

It seems like the main reason they wouldnt be shopping Girardi would be that he won't agree to waive his NMC. Isn't that enough to explain this?

Reports say they wouldn't even ask.

They think he's a superstar. Just look at his minutes in 2016 when 99 out of 100 Rangers fans agreed he was ****ing deplorable.

 

[Trxjw]

They will not move Girardi and they're listening to offers on McDonagh.

Dan Girardi has been the Rangers most used defenseman at even strength for the last ten years. What indication is there that they wouldn't think that?

Reports say they wouldn't even ask.

They think he's a superstar. Just look at his minutes in 2016 when 99 out of 100 Rangers fans agreed he was ****ing deplorable.

I have no words. If that's really your line of thinking here, then it's not even worth discussing.

 

[Machinehead]

I have no words. If that's really your line of thinking here, then it's not even worth discussing.

He still gets the most minutes on the team. You're right, it's not worth discussing. It's pretty cut and dry.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Gorton did this in Boston... He when big slow defense first.
How anyone thought we would go in another direction is insane

 

[Inferno]

They aren't asking because his value is at an all time low...they won't get anything useful back...so they'll try to build him back and trade him when his value is higher or expose him to the expansion draft.

That's how I see it....

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

The Wild have serious interest in Stepan.

Alex Tuch. 2014 first round pick. Remember when Gorton went to the East Regional in Worcester last month. BC was playing. They also have Joel Eriksson-Ek. 2015 first round pick. Jonas Brodin. 15th pick in the June draft. Charlie Coyle. They also have a young Russian Krill Kaprizov. Matt Dumba.

The Wild are loaded with hideous contracts. They might buyout Vanek which would clear $5M in space.

Stepan has a $6.5M cap hit.

15th pick overall
Coyle or Dumba. Coyle.
Tuch or Eriksson-Ek. The Swede is the better player. The Wild have already signed him. They haven't decided where Eriksson-Ek will play next season. Tuch is a right handed shot left winger. He is also signed.

Stepan is a signed player for next 5 seasons. He has either a NMC or NTC in years 3 & 4 and a limited NTC to 15 teams in years 5 & 6.

Why Coyle over Dumba? Dumba is younger and fills a clear need. Unless the team believes Hayes isn't going to improve at all or even play like he had in 2014-15, he should be at least a 2nd line C. I don't really think there's a need for a center. There is a clear need for a point scoring RHD, the role Boyle couldn't fill.

 

[TheTakedown]

Kevin Allen of USA Today wrote this after the Rangers lost to Pittsburgh



http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-jeff-gorton-girardi-nash-vigneault/83467086/

Interesting find. I was posting this earlier that sather was still pulling the strings this year.

I think Gorton makes some serious changes this offseason

 

[aufheben]

Reports are they won't move Girardi but they'll listen to offers on McDonagh and Brassard.

What the literal fee fi fo **** is going on with this hockey team?

Dude who the hell is going to make an offer on Girardi?

Ok well maybe Benning.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

The Rangers could trade Stepan, Brassard, Mcdonagh and Kreider and they still wouldn't be a lottery team with Henrik They'll just be a team stuck in mediocrity