I mean Andersson deserves it more. 1st in CF%, 1st in SF%, 1st in XGF% according to natural stat trick. He's done everything except score.
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He’s doing many positive things but it’d be a huge change in his ice-time and he’s losing most of his face-offs at the moment. He’ll pot a few a get his chance as 3C soon enough I think.
That said, people also clearly view Andersson differently than Howden on here so we might be getting carried away with how good he’s actually been. If Andersson instead was part of the McDonagh trade I doubt there’d be as much clamor.
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Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
No need for the sarcasm, I've been one of the biggest supporters of our youngsters.
I really don't want to spend anymore time on Pionk as its kind of OT but being skeptical of one young player doesn't mean someone is a skeptic in general. That is kind of a ridiculous argument to make.
the only trade for a 2C that he should consider is another Zibanejad deal that brings in a guy that is 25 or younger that can be part of the long term solutions...we are better off losing and getting a high pick than bring in staal.
one reason I would resign Kreider and try to flip him down the road. i don't want any futures for Kreider unless another Mika type of future. can Kreider even bring a Mika type of player as an UFA or will he must be resigned to bring that Mika type of player in return.
Hands down, purely in terms of style, Tyler Johnson is a perfect fit for us.
Guys like Eric Staal can look good on paper, but for years he has been a negative contributor for his team. So easy to control and push back. Sure he is clutch and will put some pts on the PP and when getting top ice time. But if you play good hockey against his unit it’s just walk-over.
Barnaby
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You have a short memory. Skjei is a disappointment thus far, but not to the level of a purse swinging Tom 'poke check' Poti.
I haven't seen much discussion of Howden's play venture into the McDonagh trade. I think people mostly don't think he's been an effective player.
I agree about Andersson though. No need to jump him so high so fast just when he's finally playing a mostly effective game.
Barnaby
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I just hope the Rangers get some scoring from that 2nd line one way or another. Kreider's value won't be helped by a legitimate fall in production.
Eric Staal? Yeesh. Been there, done that.
Eric Staal? Yeesh. Been there, done that.
Pionk just magically transformed into a good all around defenseman? I don't buy it.
Not saying that he is perfect defensively and don’t have issues he has to work with — but I do think a great deal of the over the top trashing he got in NY was attributable to meaning less stats that failed to adjust for the big picture.
There are so many examples of players over night completely changing their metrical foot print when they change teams or even just roles on the team. Those stats can’t just be taken seriously when comparing a player in one situation with any player in another situation, which isn’t strange since hockey is a team game after all and it of course is tremendously hard to isolate one of six players on the ice’s contribution individually in a way that it tells you how good he would perform for another team with another system in another role.
Again, definitely not saying that Pionk handled the work load he got in NY well. But I definitely don’t think he was a worthless player which many concluded after corsi scouting him.
aufheben
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No but it’s only logical that people have a stronger emotional attachment to Andersson’s success and long-term future in the org. He was a high draft pick by the team, and was at the time the face of the future, future captain, etc. I mean people are dying for him to pan out, myself included.
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We have completely different memories of Tom Poti.
I also want Skjei to be more in the mold of 'prime-MacTruck'... no where near Poti.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Poti was a pre-cursor to the modern NHL D, because despite the fact that he was gaffe prone, the puck was on the Rangers sticks an awful lot when he was out there. And even more so when his gaffe-proneness started to steady out after he was gone from the Rangers. He'd fit in VERY well in today's game.
IDK. That's kind of revisionist since that same investment was manifesting in pitchforks until he cracked the roster this season. I can't think of many first round Rangers picks who haven't faced substantially more criticism than their less pedigreed peers. Del Zotto. Kreider. McIlrath. Miller. Skjei. I mean just read the old Andersson threads, the Chytil one when he got sent down, and Kravtsov's thread currently.
Before a formula was used that spelled out:
No. of good plays * 1 — No. gaffs * 100 + No. big hits x 50 + No. big slippers x 50
Making mistakes is part of playing with smaller marginals and just making plays. Before the guys that just threw the puck away got a break for everything in Rangerland. If you made a mistake here and there and wasn’t physical, you got hated on pretty bad.
Now the formula is based on metrics only. Bad corsi=worst D in the NHL, good Corsi=future Norris candidate.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
Crazy idea here -- Jason Pominville is unemployed.
31 points and good underlying numbers. He's a vet and our bottom six is absolutely useless.
31 points and good underlying numbers. He's a vet and our bottom six is absolutely useless.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
Everyone's gonna hate this idea for no reason but it makes a lot of sense.
The board's tendency to hate Eric more then Marc is so f***ing off the wall lol
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Rozy and Malik were victims of the same mindset.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
It's not as much that as it is Andersson in the miniscule amount of games and ice time has stood out and done more positive things on the ice than Howden, at least that's how I see it.
Draft pedigree or how the players ended up here doesn't make much difference in this situation
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
I would like it but I would guess he might be waiting for a better team than us to reach out to him if he still has the urge to play. But if he's willing to sign here we should
Machinehead
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Chris Stewart has a contract and Pominville does not. And people ask me why I hate this league.
MrAlmost
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Morgan Barron, I think, will make a lot of Ranger fans very happy.
Rangers should have take a chance on Pominville especially as a RW that can play 2ed or 3rd line if needed. much better than giving a tryout to Haley of all players
how old is pominville? do we know if he even wants a job? he's gotta be potential retirement age at this point
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