Paul Stastny and Nick Bonino are eligible for bonuses
It’s come down to looking at players over 35 to push money into next year
It’s come down to looking at players over 35 to push money into next year
Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition
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They have to move on from Goodrow. They need the space. They could bring in a decent RWer with his cap hit given the market suffocation on salaries. And then they could sign his replacement for $1 million or less.
Lars Eller is out there.
Lars Eller is out there.
Running it back with bascially the same group is so dumb.
When it fails, hopefully the bigger contracts finally get forced out.
When it fails, hopefully the bigger contracts finally get forced out.
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Drury was probably stupid enough to buy some BS, that the Pens are about to pick the D, we were looking at.
haohmaru
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With that philosophy, Tampa would never have won a Cup after getting bounced by Columbus 4-0 when everyone thought they were Cup favorites.
People also tend to forget that they went to two ECF's and another Final (all losses) coupled with a year where they didn't even qualify for the playoffs BEFORE that 4-0 drubbing.
Honestly, the best thing that our fanbase can hope for is this "same group" is really pissed off and embarrassed by what happened and super motivated to do better. Blowing it up at this point is a foolish option.
If the Pens were that high on the guy it would've taken more than a 7th to move off that pick. It makes little sense unless the Pens were really going to take him and Drury owes them future considerations. When I saw that deal I was really scratching my head.
Tampa had room to make some pretty significant adds. Even if they shed Goodrow, it wouldn’t really give them a ton of space to do anything outside of bargain bin shopping.
This is what happens when you don’t spend nearly 20 million on 2 players who aren’t even close to worth it. Im not even suggesting that they need to completely blow it up, but I really wish we had the cap space being occupied by the 2019 off-season duo right now.
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There is the option of trading with retention. Say the Rangers retain $1m, that would give cap space now and not have the extended buyout issues. That may allow for Drury to get a decent return as well.
We all seem to think it’s buyout or trade the cap hit entirely.
We all seem to think it’s buyout or trade the cap hit entirely.
17futurecap
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Sadly today is the last day to do it for Goodrow, he doesn’t fit the criteria for a second buyout window.
Teams may receive an additional Buyout window. If a team has a player go to arbitration and it is either settled or awarded, the team receives a new 48 hour buyout window beginning 3 days after the arbitration settlement or award. The only contracts that are eligible to be bought out in this window are for player with Cap Hits greater than $4M AND they were on the team's roster at the last trade deadline.
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Who are the two players that "aren't even close to worth it"? Panarin and Zibanejad?
Yeah seriously. Mika out performed his contract this year
And Panarin didn’t but most metrics had him worth about 9m.
Panarin and Trouba. I’m mostly okay with Zibanejad.
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I'd say Trouba and Panarin are both about 2.5-3m overpaid. Zibanejad needs to get out of his own head, but he had an awesome season and carried us through a lot of it.
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Is the waiver cutoff noon ET or 2pm ET? Thought it moved to later in the day this past season.
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I mean, I can see being sour on Panarin's playoff performance buttttt...
A. His contract was signed pre Covid and there's no way the Rangers could've predicted a flat cap
B. Is, without question, the best big time UFA signing in Rangers history
C. Has 341 points in 268 regular season Rangers game
D. Has been named to the NHL 1st and 2nd All Star team twice in 4 years
E. Who are you replacing his 90+ points/year with? Lafreniere?
As for Trouba, yes, looking in the rearview he is making more than he should but there needs to be context:
See A. above
B. predated both Fox and Schneider so the need for RD was glaring at the time
Trouba is, on this team, a 3/4 now so, yes, he's being paid a lot for that role but he is the Captain and does bring value to a contending team.
A. True, but he shouldn’t have been signed anyway. Even in a world where the cap has been rising he wouldn’t have been worth the money right now. The timing of his signing was so stupid, it looks worse now because of the flat cap.
B. If you want to go by raw point totals, sure. His playoff performances have been underwhelming to terrible and his presence has gotten in the way of developing the 1st 1oa this team has ever had since the expansion era. I get that he was signed before the team had that pick, but his presence has had a negative impact on our 2oa as well (Strome got forced onto the PP for no reason in 2019 and stayed there bc Panarin. Kakko was pretty much relegated to any line that didn’t have Panarin on it because he was allowed to hand pick his line mates.) Again this comes down to timing.
C. His production has dropped in each of his four seasons. Scoring has gone up in each of these years. It’s a trend that seems to be glossed over. I think his overall game was better last year than it was the year before (where he was genuinely horrible for most of the season) but he’s clearly in decline (and a ton of us saw this coming.)
D. He was a wagon in his first year, I won’t deny that. He had no business making the team this year.
E. I’m willing to take a drop off in raw point totals if it means adding more rounded players who actually show up when it matters. You could do a lot with his 11.6.
Trouba is absolutely a hindsight thing and of the 2 moves, actually made more sense due to his age when he signed. It wasn’t a move that needed to happen though.
I have a bigger issue with Panarin’s contract anyway. We could have lived with and handled Trouba, most teams have a bad contract on their roster.
We can’t live with 2.
Only reason I don't give you yet another like for this one is Cat Francis, who unnecessarily sent Park + Ratelle to BAHSTON, just to show he could
Money-strapped Rangers can’t do much but lock in free agents
The Rangers do not have the financial wherewithal to spend the summer hunting for shiny new toys.nypost.com
Drury might be the worst GM ever.
Eff you E, eff you.
To move on = good idea.
To do so by any means other than not retaining and taking a 6th or so back = bad idea, 'cause squandering assets = stupid.
Buyout is not squandering assets, but it is waste of cap space.
bern suggestion is best here
hold for now, later in 2023 there is inevitable injury.
Good + 4th for a 3rd or if lucky w/a 3rd for a 2nd
THAT is the move
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They shouldn't see Cuylle, Othmann, Jones and Robertson as NHL players?
Money-strapped Rangers can’t do much but lock in free agents
The Rangers do not have the financial wherewithal to spend the summer hunting for shiny new toys.
Drury might be the worst GM ever.
At least he's not Gorton
It’s debatable who is worse. Drury is less than inspiring. Especially with his trades. Gorton blows hike out of the water with trades.
Signings have been about awful for both.
Draft is TBD. Gorton wasnt meh. Had some bad picks, had some good ones, but nothing great.
Too early to tell for Drury.
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The cap mess Drury is blamed for is unequivocally Gorton (& JDs) fault. The big blemish for Drury is Goodrow/Nemeth over Buch, and even if we make that swap...we'd still be a top 3 metro team and we'd still have no cap space to do anything.
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no. except for Jones any of them being penciled in is a mistake.
The kane fiasco last year, i also think the trocheck signing was awful. Now we have a $6m 3rd line center, for 6 more years.
With trade protections.
He is a good player yes, but that contract is woof. It would have been smarter to sign a vet on a short contract and let Chytil play 2C. Though his dumb dumb coach he hired wasn't smart enough to figure out how to use players.
Him keeping leschcysingnsn for so long, not putting lindgren on IR to circumvent cap and bring up players. And othet player/cap moves that just dont make sense.
He just doesnt instill me with any such confidence.
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