Roster Building Thread V (2022-23): Cheese and WINE

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23-24 Plan: Play the Kids, Sit the Vets, Tank
24-25 Plan: Play the Kids, Sit the Vets, Tank
25-26 Plan: Play the Kids, Sit the Vets, Tank

26-27 Plan: Sign the Gods, Win

Kaprizov - McDavid - Celebrini
Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko
Othmann - Zibanejad - Hagens
Goon - Goon - Goon

Lindgren - Makar
Miller - Fox
Dickinson - Schneider

Igor
Igor’s Child
 
Im curious on something. How much blame do you put on Trouba? He should be apart of this team being motivated and playing hard. But it seems like they coast so much even in must win games.

Is there any blame you put on the captain for that? (Obviously it’s not fully his fault)
 
23-24 Plan: Play the Kids, Sit the Vets, Tank
24-25 Plan: Play the Kids, Sit the Vets, Tank
25-26 Plan: Play the Kids, Sit the Vets, Tank

26-27 Plan: Sign the Gods

Kaprizov - McDavid - Celebrini
Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko
Othmann - Zibanejad - Hagens
Goon - Goon - Goon

Lindgren - Makar
Miller - Fox
Goon - Goon

Igor
Igor’s Child
McDavid comes here of another 160 pt season and proceeds to decline drastically.

Rangers lose in 7. (Pick the round)
 
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Im curious on something. How much blame do you put on Trouba? He should be apart of this team being motivated and playing hard. But it seems like they coast so much even in must win games.

Is there any blame you put on the captain for that? (Obviously it’s not fully his fault)
i don't think any he shouldnt have to motivate panarin and mika to show up thats on them
 
Im curious on something. How much blame do you put on Trouba? He should be apart of this team being motivated and playing hard. But it seems like they coast so much even in must win games.

Is there any blame you put on the captain for that? (Obviously it’s not fully his fault)
Its him
Its fox
Its panarin
Its mika
They r also passive betas
Blame drury for not getting us a "messier"
We need a real leader
 
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Im curious on something. How much blame do you put on Trouba? He should be apart of this team being motivated and playing hard. But it seems like they coast so much even in must win games.

Is there any blame you put on the captain for that? (Obviously it’s not fully his fault)
I blame more for his play. He isn't worth 8 million. His offense is non existent. The worst pp QB in hockey. Hated the contract at the time. Hate it even more now.
 
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I blame more for his play. He isn't worth 8 million. His offense is non existant. The worst pp QB in hockey. Hated the contract at the time. Hate it even more now.

Ok but every team has bad contracts. My question is leaning more to him as a captain and how this team plays with his being a captain.
 
Team is handcuffed to its own failures - we won’t be able to make the changes necessary to set ourselves up to expect better next year. Hopefully this is enough that Panarin is forced to waive by management, but Trouba was just named captain and is liked by management. Kreider is a life time Ranger who had a good playoffs. Trochek was just signed. Zibanejad is the only bonafide top six center in the entire organization. The only big guy who they can move is Panarin. Goodrow, one or two of the kids, may get shuffled out, but I’m not even sure we’ll be able to unload Panarin so I’m resigned to the notion of several straight seasons of mediocrity coming up.
You're not wrong. Most of what you say is spot on. I still feel Chytil can be a 50-60 point player even with pretty much the zero meaningful pp time he gets. He surely can be a decent young 2nd line center. Trocheck can be a good 3C.
Goodrow will be gone because he is moveable. Unloading Panarin will have to take some magic.

I’d be looking very hard at Goodrow, Panarin and then Trouba. In that order.
One is not like the other. 2 of the 3 are not moveable for several reasons. Goodrow as much as some people feel he is an overpaid bum he is the one who is the easiest to move.
 
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I’d be looking very hard at Goodrow, Panarin and then Trouba. In that order.

Id be looking at sather, drury and gallant in that order.

But if we only looking at players. I am looking to unload Miller first. Think we can get a good hail for him, and am convinced he will never hit potential.

Next up would be goodrow, just bc of contract.

If nmcs werent a problem i would move kreider bc we can get a haul for him and trocheck bc innever liked that contract.

Nobody is taking panarin or zibs.

And even though trouba is overpaid, i do like his leadership and he brings grit and hitting. Just wishe his contract was in the $5-6m range.
 
I know that's probably true but everyone is praying they get Panarin to waive so I'm hoping the same for this guy

I don’t get this Panarin shit. It’s not gonna happen, people are dreaming.

Trouba is definitely more realistic, but it will cost to dump him. Ah well, only (2?) more years till he can be traded. Something like that
 
I have no issue if they want to get rid of Bread, but a huge fear of going all grit, which Chris Drury loves.

Get players that can skate, give Hagelin a one year deal coming off surgery if he wants to play.
 
Panarin needs to play with elite grinders who forecheck and get to the net. That way they can force a turnover to Panarin while the defense is disjointed, giving him space to do his thing.

That’s how Panarin-PLD-Andersen got to Tampa. That’s why Fast worked well with Panarin. Unfortunately, NYR do not have that kind of player.

I’d obviously want to get rid of Panarin and his insane cap hit, but he’s a good regular season player and we would only be hurting ourselves by trading him for nothing or paying to get rid of his cap hit (this is the Ranger way).

We need to find some pain in the ass types this summer to play with him, build his value, then maybe be able to sell high when the cap is higher and better play raises his value.
 
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Realistic.

Coach needs to go. He never adjusted or even tried to physically bully a smaller opponent.

Kane, Motte, Mikkola and Tarasenko need to walk. This lineup needs even more of an infusion of youth.

Goodrow needs to be moved because he is the only decent sized contract who is at a veteran age that can be moved.

Cuylle, Othmann, Edstrom and Jones need to make this team. This team needs youth and tenacity and these guys will bring it. Accept the warts they will bring and spark these old dogs.

Beg and plead with anyone in the league to take Panarins contract off our hands.
 
Realistic.

Coach needs to go. He never adjusted or even tried to physically bully a smaller opponent.

Kane, Motte, Mikkola and Tarasenko need to walk. This lineup needs even more of an infusion of youth.

Goodrow needs to be moved because he is the only decent sized contract who is at a veteran age that can be moved.

Cuylle, Othmann, Edstrom and Jones need to make this team. This team needs youth and tenacity and these guys will bring it. Accept the warts they will bring and spark these old dogs.

Beg and plead with anyone in the league to take Panarins contract off our hands.



At this point I think buying out Panarin is the only realistic option. No one wants a playoff turnover machine choker. Useless
 
We need a retool. Problem is players we can trade for a retool can’t f***ing be traded. We are literally fucjing stuck like this.

Got to develop the kids better and hope for the best
 
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