Speculation: Roster Building Thread: (still) No Quinn In NY Edition

[Lays]

I would agree the team should look to sign a veteran d-man. Having defensive depth is key for any team and having a veteran is a good plan in general. Tinordi is already down in the AHL.

Ryan Murray
Michael Kempny
Kris Russel
Andy Greene
Keith Yandle

None of these guys should be playing every night but an injury to Trouba and Lindgren for any substantial amount of time and the depth will be needed. Unless we want to throw Jones to the wolves on the PK as well...

I think we should just let Hajek/Lundkvist/Jones and even Robertson compete for the spot. 3 of them make the team, other one goes to Hartford. Ride whoever’s hot

 

[RangersFan1994]

Anyone ready for The Gargantuan Line on PP2 in Hartford?

Gettinger (6'6"/218) - Edström (6'6"/210) - Rempe (6'8"/205)
Rueschhoff (6'7"/229) - Tinordi (6'6"/225)

Friggin Freakshow...

Guys that are 5’10 play more fearless than Gettinger does. He plays way too soft for his size. Needs to be more aggressive. dont know what to make of Edstrom. Rempe has potential to be a faceoff goon. Not sure what to make of him either.

 

[Lays]

Maybe JT Miller? I know Dubois really wants to go to Montreal but if there's no deal there maybe him?

Don’t they still have to clear cap?

Guys that are 5’10 play more fearless than Gettinger does. He plays way too soft for his size. Needs to be more aggressive. dont know what to make of Edstrom. Rempe has potential to be a faceoff goon. Not sure what to make of him either.

Disagree, I wouldn’t call Gettinger soft. He’s not overly physical like most guys his size but he’s definitely not a pushover. I liked his game last season, thought he did much better on the forecheck

 

[NYR Viper]

I think we should just let Hajek/Lundkvist/Jones and even Robertson compete for the spot. 3 of them make the team, other one goes to Hartford. Ride whoever’s hot

That's the desired approach, for sure, but what if the NHL team has a couple of injuries and Jones struggles? Or the NHL team has a couple of injuries and Robertson struggles in the AHL. It costs the team no money or risk to sign a vet d-man.

 

[RangerBoy]

Someone is over the $82.5M upper limit.

 

[Fitzy]

Laine hasn't been worth 9 million at any point in his career.

 

[Ola]

The Rangers don’t need another D right now. The need to try the kids out. There is no cap to waste on a vet D. They can trade for one if they need to into the season. The only thing they need to do now is get Kakko taken care of

RB has been a posting GOD MACHINE MONSTER since returning, I shriver at the tought of him not being with us.

But here I agree with you. Where is this franchise at? Some aspects are not great.
*We have no cap space.
*We really don't have anyone on a good contract, besides Shesty.
*We have little talent on the farm.

Besides that, we have some big strengths, of which the number of young players we have on the roster is uneique in the league. Looking at average age, we are the only good team that also is among the younger teams.

This in itself won't help us on the ice, but young players have value on the trade market. Drury must use that to constantly restock the asset side of our balance sheet.

I am one of Ryan Lindgren's biggest fans. Think he is an underrated part of of Adam Fox' success. The off season RL had when going from the AHL to the NHL was lost in that transition, it never stood out just how much he developed during that period. He moves well. He gets the puck out of trouble. He plays D well. This is not easy to do. If he had a couple of more inches, everyone would see him as a 5-6m player. Now he is underrated.

But its more or less impossible to see how we can resign him in 2024, or even not trade him to clear salary in 2023.

Ryan Lindgren should return a 1st next summer. If we play a kid at LD next season, and let the guy that fills in when someone is injured also be a kid -- we could handle that moving Lindgren for a 1st ni 23' while putting two other guys in prime position to develop and become assets in their turn that can be traded for future 1st round picks.

Matthew Robertson is a fairly talented kid who has sufficient smarts. He has that valuble size in a D, but his skating could be better and his overall defensive game needs a bit of work. But with that said, we have done a splendid job developing Ds in Hartford and during the off season. He wouldn't hurt from getting more time in the AHL, but he also isn't far from the NHL. Fairly easy role in the NHL, sheltered minutes. He is a good finisher. Reads the play well in the attacking zone. He would make good plays and stand out in a positive way. Value would sky rocket with regulat NHL time.

Zac Jones is another underrated prospect. I missed some time when he played in the NHL last season, not sure why GG soured on him. But its not easy and GG do have high standards. He knows what it take in the POs and was Zac Jones ready for that? If GG didn't think he was, I wouldn't second guess that. But it doesn't mean that ZJ couldn't play good hockey in the NHL this season. He is more experienced.

Let these guys play next to Schneider and fill in when needed when Lindgren/Miller misses time.

Lindgren and Chytil will probably be cap casualities next summer. Is that a disaster? No, both would probably return assets worth about a 1st round pick each. That is of course really valuable. We need that. Buying out Goodrow isn't great, dead cap space and no return. Being forced to bridge a kid can turn out to be a disaster. Being forced to trade young players for a good return is not. We should use that opportunity.

And its basically the same with Libor Hajak. He would also gain value if he plays.

Laine hasn't been worth 9 million at any point in his career.

Johnny H can probably get him back on track again.

 

[Fitzy]

That's the desired approach, for sure, but what if the NHL team has a couple of injuries and Jones struggles? Or the NHL team has a couple of injuries and Robertson struggles in the AHL. It costs the team no money or risk to sign a vet d-man.

Agree in principle, but if there are a couple long-term injuries on defense, Drury may well look to make a trade for someone better than we could currently get in free agency.

Say you lose Trouba Miller for half the regular season randomly. As a contender you're going to be looking to make a trade for a Kevin Klein type guy at that point to prevent risking falling out of the playoff picture.

 

[pld459666]

Since we had no shot at Hughes, wjats the point of the post?

 

[EdJovanovski]

Since we had no shot at Hughes, wjats the point of the post?

I was one of the like 5 posters who wanted Hughes over Kakko, everyone else wanted Kakko to fall to us. For their first two seasons beat their chests that they were right too and claimed Kakko was so much better

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I was one of the like 5 posters who wanted Hughes over Kakko, everyone else wanted Kakko to fall to us. For their first two seasons beat their chests that they were right too and claimed Kakko was so much better

If Kravtsov flames out you’re going to need to create a new account lmao.

 

[EdJovanovski]

If Kravtsov flames out you’re going to need to create a new account lmao.

Impossible, he will fulfill the prophecy

 

[NYR Viper]

Agree in principle, but if there are a couple long-term injuries on defense, Drury may well look to make a trade for someone better than we could currently get in free agency.

Say you lose Trouba Miller for half the regular season randomly. As a contender you're going to be looking to make a trade for a Kevin Klein type guy at that point to prevent risking falling out of the playoff picture.

I don't disagree, just that these guys are free. Why not add the depth? I think in a situation where you know guys are out for 30-40 games than a trade may be necessary. But what about a slew of flu cases which is just 2-3 games? Or COVID? Or a couple of short term injuries?

I'm not going to let it ruin my weekend if they don't do anything, but I would much prefer the guys I just mentioned to Tinordi in those cases.

 

[Thirty One]

Someone is over the $82.5M upper limit.

CapFriendly is projecting them $6 million over using a 42-man roster.

 

[Zynbanejad]

I was one of the like 5 posters who wanted Hughes over Kakko, everyone else wanted Kakko to fall to us. For their first two seasons beat their chests that they were right too and claimed Kakko was so much better

Really? I 100% wanted Hughes over Kakko just because we needed another top C, but convinced myself I'd be fine with Kakko and he could be just as good or better. And I bet a lot of people here did the same

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

They should 100% bring in a vet 7th dman, Libor Hajek is one of the worst dmen in the league, I would say worst, but we also have Tinordi so I will let it slide for Libor.

Also, the Rangers got very lucky last season, 78 each for Fox and Lindgren, 81 games for Trouba and 82 for Miller, don’t just assume that will happen again.

This is why we’ve traded Libor for Sofr

 

[RagFinMet]

I was one of the like 5 posters who wanted Hughes over Kakko, everyone else wanted Kakko to fall to us. For their first two seasons beat their chests that they were right too and claimed Kakko was so much better

I wanted to trade down and get the C we need
Zegras
I was laughed at...

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Really? I 100% wanted Hughes over Kakko just because we needed another top C, but convinced myself I'd be fine with Kakko and he could be just as good or better. And I bet a lot of people here did the same

My concerns for Hughes were based around his durability.

Those haven’t changed. He gets hit hard way too often.

 

[EdJovanovski]

My concerns for Hughes were based around his durability.

Those haven’t changed. He gets hit hard way too often.

Kakko seems to have significant durability issues too

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

I don't disagree, just that these guys are free. Why not add the depth? I think in a situation where you know guys are out for 30-40 games than a trade may be necessary. But what about a slew of flu cases which is just 2-3 games? Or COVID? Or a couple of short term injuries?

I'm not going to let it ruin my weekend if they don't do anything, but I would much prefer the guys I just mentioned to Tinordi in those cases.

Agreed in principle that it would be nice to have one of those guys in the queue but you like all of us know already that we do not have the cap space.

 

[effen]

The KIDZ KIDZ KIDZ fetishists need to realize a team with cup aspirations isnt going to run out a depth chart where their 5th thru 9th D has a combined sub-200 NHL games.

They were abnormally healthy last year in a top 4 they rode hard, that stuff has a habit of evening out.

They need a vet D. They might even need 2.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

RB has been a posting GOD MACHINE MONSTER since returning, I shriver at the tought of him not being with us.

But here I agree with you. Where is this franchise at? Some aspects are not great.
*We have no cap space.
*We really don't have anyone on a good contract, besides Shesty.
*We have little talent on the farm.

Besides that, we have some big strengths, of which the number of young players we have on the roster is uneique in the league. Looking at average age, we are the only good team that also is among the younger teams.

This in itself won't help us on the ice, but young players have value on the trade market. Drury must use that to constantly restock the asset side of our balance sheet.

I am one of Ryan Lindgren's biggest fans. Think he is an underrated part of of Adam Fox' success. The off season RL had when going from the AHL to the NHL was lost in that transition, it never stood out just how much he developed during that period. He moves well. He gets the puck out of trouble. He plays D well. This is not easy to do. If he had a couple of more inches, everyone would see him as a 5-6m player. Now he is underrated.

But its more or less impossible to see how we can resign him in 2024, or even not trade him to clear salary in 2023.

Ryan Lindgren should return a 1st next summer. If we play a kid at LD next season, and let the guy that fills in when someone is injured also be a kid -- we could handle that moving Lindgren for a 1st ni 23' while putting two other guys in prime position to develop and become assets in their turn that can be traded for future 1st round picks.

Matthew Robertson is a fairly talented kid who has sufficient smarts. He has that valuble size in a D, but his skating could be better and his overall defensive game needs a bit of work. But with that said, we have done a splendid job developing Ds in Hartford and during the off season. He wouldn't hurt from getting more time in the AHL, but he also isn't far from the NHL. Fairly easy role in the NHL, sheltered minutes. He is a good finisher. Reads the play well in the attacking zone. He would make good plays and stand out in a positive way. Value would sky rocket with regulat NHL time.

Zac Jones is another underrated prospect. I missed some time when he played in the NHL last season, not sure why GG soured on him. But its not easy and GG do have high standards. He knows what it take in the POs and was Zac Jones ready for that? If GG didn't think he was, I wouldn't second guess that. But it doesn't mean that ZJ couldn't play good hockey in the NHL this season. He is more experienced.

Let these guys play next to Schneider and fill in when needed when Lindgren/Miller misses time.

Lindgren and Chytil will probably be cap casualities next summer. Is that a disaster? No, both would probably return assets worth about a 1st round pick each. That is of course really valuable. We need that. Buying out Goodrow isn't great, dead cap space and no return. Being forced to bridge a kid can turn out to be a disaster. Being forced to trade young players for a good return is not. We should use that opportunity.

And its basically the same with Libor Hajak. He would also gain value if he plays.



Johnny H can probably get him back on track again.

How many times do I or other people need to tell you that Lindgren is NOT being traded as a cap dump. He makes 3m per, prob will get 4m per on his next contract. He does not break the bank and is a top 4 defenseman is 24yo and plays the exact way that is needed in the PO's. Oo hes gonna break down at 30.. Great thats 6 more years away. Who the hell are you going to replace himm with on the cheap? None of the prospects you mentioned havent even sniffed the nhl yet and you want them to take top 4 min. Im so tired of seeing this crap about lindgren.

The KIDZ KIDZ KIDZ fetishists need to realize a team with cup aspirations isnt going to run out a depth chart where their 5th thru 9th D has a combined sub-200 NHL games.

They were abnormally healthy last year in a top 4 they rode hard, that stuff has a habit of evening out.

They need a vet D. They might even need 2.

With what cap space? Yes it would be great to get one or two. But again how do we fit them?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Kakko seems to have significant durability issues too

He doesn’t get smoked a half dozen times a season like Hughes does.

 

[Machinehead]

Lots of money for Brett Hull shot, Brett Howden everything else

 

[RGY]

He doesn’t get smoked a half dozen times a season like Hughes does.

Just absolutely wild takes from EdJovo to push his ridiculous agenda.