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Well, we came within two games of the Stanley Cup, but it's not like he'd know or anything
Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXVII
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Well, we came within two games of the Stanley Cup, but it's not like he'd know or anything
Dijock94
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NY Rangers = America's Team
How potentially good/bad are these pairing:
Robertson-Fox
K'Andre-Lundkvist
Jones-Schneider
Robertson-Fox
K'Andre-Lundkvist
Jones-Schneider
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
I obviously doubt this would happen but if I was dru id try to trade into the first round to grab a sliding lambert(either lundkvist or 2 2nds+). Let him cook for a season or 2. Sign Lindgren or greiss as a backup. Then sign some cheap depth players like hinostroza, carpenter, hell maybe a guy like kessel or Neal to be a vet/fill in for injuries. Then just throw all the rest of the $ at 1 year of Malkin while lambert or another top c develops. Then go
Kzl
Panarin-Malkin-kk/krav
Kessel/good-chytil-krav/kk
Good/xx-rydhal(sp?)-reeves/hunt/kessel
Keep as many assets as possible. No more trading top tier prospects for 1 year of a guy who can walk.
Kzl
Panarin-Malkin-kk/krav
Kessel/good-chytil-krav/kk
Good/xx-rydhal(sp?)-reeves/hunt/kessel
Keep as many assets as possible. No more trading top tier prospects for 1 year of a guy who can walk.
Potentially good in the future, not so good next season
my biggest issue with bringing him in is it forces you into handing the 2c role to chytil and c depth is even more thin than this year. also not sure its the best fit...i mean i love kane, but any year now his decline will begin and im not sure hes the missing piece as far as style of play that puts us over the top with what we already have.
if copp can be signed to a reasonable cap hit, like sub 5.5, hes my choice for where we allocate the biggest chunk of the cap this summer. dont love the idea of him at that amount for 5+ years but dont see a better option. that way if chytil shows he really can lead a 2nd line all year consistently with those mins copp can move to wing or down the lineup no prob...dont get that with strome. if not, if malkin does hit the market i kick the tires on a 1-2 yr deal there. but i just dont see any way you can go into camp with chytil as your default 2c and leave goodrow as the only other option. even if i thought kane would be great, you cant put 5mm there and leave c depth where it would be.
would rather take the resources in that trade offer and see if there isnt a deal w/ prob la for one of their young c's w potential. even if they began the year in hfd at least you have a call up option with some skill and potential. as it stands, which gets magnified in a kane trade, god help us if say mika was out for any extended period of time. would have chytil goodrow centering your top 6 and what rooney and brodzinsky for 3/4? forget a cup run would be in the bedard running trotting that out there.
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Not even for Pulju AND a 2nd round pick. He isn't being traded.
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Fitzy
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Robertson needs to show he can be a top pairing guy in the AHL before he plays on a pairing with Adam goddam Fox. I like the kid but good lord
AirGut
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Patrick Kane is a pure NYR move written on the wall at this point. We know Drury was one of the GM's that called CHI about Kane this past deadline just to see what's up and we know Drury is looking to make a blockbuster trade,(sniffing Eichel is pure evidence of this) so the next big thing around the NHL is the question on what's next for players like Toews & Kane.
The way I see it, our best chance to win a cup is within these next 3 years and considering Kane has all the intangibles this team is looking for at the moment, it's well worth the risk to trade for him. Losing Kakko and a guy like Lundkvist would hurt but considering the amount of asset capital this team has to play with, it really doesn't take us out of the Cup picture anyways. There is always a point a young up and coming franchise reaches where they need to decide if they want to keep all the young assets they've acquired or use it to upgrade and advance further, and I think the Rangers as a whole are reaching that point.
Not only does Patrick Kane bring the experience and veteran leadership but he very easily solves our whole "5v5 goal issue". Yes, I'll agree it's a risk trying to reignite the Panarin//Kane dynamic since nothing is a guarantee but holy f*** if it works out this teams top 6 lineup is absolutely stacked and lethal. In a realistic scenario you have to expect Kane to be traded for full 50% retention, which means he'll come in for around $5.2M for us, this is absolutely a number we can squeeze in. This, however, means Copp and Strome are both gone which leaves just Chytil himself to get the promotion and become 2C. A very tall task for the young Czech center but it anyone can do it I think it's Chytil, especially after what he's shown this playoff run.
They might even be able to keep either Motte/Vatrano, even if Motte want's the $2M to $3M price tag. Vatrano most likely is released considering our RW depth at this stage but I think Drury can sell the idea of what we'll have these next couple years to a guy like Motte and that he'll possibly have his name engraved on the Stanley Cup.
We have to realize our best chance is within Shesterkin's contract timeline, these next 3 years. I really don't blame the FO if they get greedy and try and buy their way to a Cup. If Drury really wants to go "all in" right now, this is what we can ice:
Kreider-Zibanejad-Blais
Panarin-Chytil-Kane
Lafreniere-Goodrow-Kravtsov/Blais
Hunt-Brodz-Reaves/BlaisKravtsov
The way I see it, our best chance to win a cup is within these next 3 years and considering Kane has all the intangibles this team is looking for at the moment, it's well worth the risk to trade for him. Losing Kakko and a guy like Lundkvist would hurt but considering the amount of asset capital this team has to play with, it really doesn't take us out of the Cup picture anyways. There is always a point a young up and coming franchise reaches where they need to decide if they want to keep all the young assets they've acquired or use it to upgrade and advance further, and I think the Rangers as a whole are reaching that point.
Not only does Patrick Kane bring the experience and veteran leadership but he very easily solves our whole "5v5 goal issue". Yes, I'll agree it's a risk trying to reignite the Panarin//Kane dynamic since nothing is a guarantee but holy f*** if it works out this teams top 6 lineup is absolutely stacked and lethal. In a realistic scenario you have to expect Kane to be traded for full 50% retention, which means he'll come in for around $5.2M for us, this is absolutely a number we can squeeze in. This, however, means Copp and Strome are both gone which leaves just Chytil himself to get the promotion and become 2C. A very tall task for the young Czech center but it anyone can do it I think it's Chytil, especially after what he's shown this playoff run.
They might even be able to keep either Motte/Vatrano, even if Motte want's the $2M to $3M price tag. Vatrano most likely is released considering our RW depth at this stage but I think Drury can sell the idea of what we'll have these next couple years to a guy like Motte and that he'll possibly have his name engraved on the Stanley Cup.
We have to realize our best chance is within Shesterkin's contract timeline, these next 3 years. I really don't blame the FO if they get greedy and try and buy their way to a Cup. If Drury really wants to go "all in" right now, this is what we can ice:
Kreider-Zibanejad-Blais
Panarin-Chytil-Kane
Lafreniere-Goodrow-Kravtsov/Blais
Hunt-Brodz-Reaves/BlaisKravtsov
Meh. Stay away from the pedohawks.
Copp and Vatrano both said they have unfinished business here. You have the Copp, Vatrano, Trouba, Motte connection from juniors. Copp said he doesn't want to go somewhere and eat minutes but lose every game. Are they gonna chase the extra bit of money or would they rather be apart of this group?
Part of me was hoping they'd use Blais to garner back some picks and use that money to re-sign Motte. Gotta love the game Blais brings but I don't have much faith that he'll stay healthy, so I'd rather the money elsewhere... though Motte has had his fair share of injuries as well. Regardless, it'll be good to have Blais back at that number.
Getting Nemeths money off the books has to be a priority, the extra 2.5 million could be crucial for this off-season and the next.
Hopefully Drury looks to cash in some of the scraps and spare parts to restock some of the picks we lost. I'd look to package Nils for a first, its a position of strength. The very top of this draft may not be too high end but there's a ton of interesting centers to be had in the 2nd half of the 1st round. Theres a few teams with multiple firsts that could present an opportunity. Arizona is the obvious choice here, they're incredibly thin at every position, the main roster and within their system. They have 7 picks within the first 2 rounds here and you gotta figure they may look to offload some for a prospect or 2 thats further ahead. Buffalo is another with 3 first rounders, they don't have many RHD in the organization, maybe Nils is someone they'd target. Anaheim has multiple firsts but with Drysdale in the fold I'd be surprised if they'd be interested. Montreal has 14 picks this year, 4 in the first 2 rounds... theyre another team that really doesn't have many players with Nils ability. He could become a real asset on the PP with how good his shot is
Part of me was hoping they'd use Blais to garner back some picks and use that money to re-sign Motte. Gotta love the game Blais brings but I don't have much faith that he'll stay healthy, so I'd rather the money elsewhere... though Motte has had his fair share of injuries as well. Regardless, it'll be good to have Blais back at that number.
Getting Nemeths money off the books has to be a priority, the extra 2.5 million could be crucial for this off-season and the next.
Hopefully Drury looks to cash in some of the scraps and spare parts to restock some of the picks we lost. I'd look to package Nils for a first, its a position of strength. The very top of this draft may not be too high end but there's a ton of interesting centers to be had in the 2nd half of the 1st round. Theres a few teams with multiple firsts that could present an opportunity. Arizona is the obvious choice here, they're incredibly thin at every position, the main roster and within their system. They have 7 picks within the first 2 rounds here and you gotta figure they may look to offload some for a prospect or 2 thats further ahead. Buffalo is another with 3 first rounders, they don't have many RHD in the organization, maybe Nils is someone they'd target. Anaheim has multiple firsts but with Drysdale in the fold I'd be surprised if they'd be interested. Montreal has 14 picks this year, 4 in the first 2 rounds... theyre another team that really doesn't have many players with Nils ability. He could become a real asset on the PP with how good his shot is
rangers1314
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If NYR can’t bring back Motte, I wonder about a guy like Chris Tierney.
Still he’ll be 28 next week. Has put up decent offensive numbers in the past. Can skate, can PK. Can play C or W. Play up or down the lineup.
Could be an interesting buy low guy on a 1 year deal.
Beware of the bullshit this time of year
Still he’ll be 28 next week. Has put up decent offensive numbers in the past. Can skate, can PK. Can play C or W. Play up or down the lineup.
Could be an interesting buy low guy on a 1 year deal.
I’ve been seeing things like this, I think it’s bogus. It’s attributed to Mollie but I don’t see anything in her Twitter and unless I missed something, nothing in a new article from her.
Beware of the bullshit this time of year
Gluten Free Breadman
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Mason Marchment, Ryan Donato, Mason Maxim would be good young cheap options for UFA for the bottom lines. I can see the Rangers going after Donato and Marchment when UFA begins. Donato I feel would flourish here. Donato being a kid from Boston, MA. Hmm. His dad played here.
This is no center depth. Center was a need this past season with Strome at 2 and FC at 3. Now with FC as a 2 you think this is depth? He had a good run in the playoffs but under no circumstances would I hand him the number 2 slot given how inconsistent and poor he was most of the season. Listen this team was 2 wins from the finals. Do you really think Drury is going to go backwards at a position that needs to be stronger?
He's played fewer regular season games than Strome. Perfect length on his contract. Chicago eats half. Ideal fit with Bread and PP1. Butt cised.
You basically lose your 2 most physical guys in Trouba and RL. We can't afford to lose toughness.
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It's a massive leap from the statement he made when essentially he said he rather be on a 'competing team' than 'paid on a 0-82 team'... or at least that's how I took it.
You develop that 2ed line spot. No reason why they can’t see Chytil can run with it he is 22 not like he is 29. see what happens. Sign guys like Donato Marchment, Maxim for the bottom lines. More 2ed line centers are developed by their own team.
SA16
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Faksa is absolutely horrible and you're trading Lundkvist for him. Legitimately one of the worst players in the league. I would not sign him for league minimum if he was a UFA.
