Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXVI

[Machinehead]

I agree. “In that way” meant tough physicality. 25 hits with 10 huge ones wears you down more than just closing space. Makes you apprehensive of getting laid out and disrupting your game more than just closing off space. It’s ALL subjective. Even stats from arena to arena are subjective. It’s all grain of salt. I’m not trying to say analytics aren’t a good measuring stick either in case I didn’t make that clear.

Yeah, it's all subjective.

I just think some folks need a better understanding of what we're dealing with. It's recall and bias. Somehow people take offense to that because they think if they saw something and concluded something, it's gospel. Imagine the ego.

And absolutely, 100% people will just regurgitate narratives and then be like "but I watched it!" when you call them out on it. And we're not talking about people who watch 82 Rangers games, we're talking about people who watch three and then comment. I still see "I'm just not impressed by Adam Fox," which is why I use him as an example.

And the correct response is "I don't care what you're impressed by." He's done what he's done; you don't get to have an opinion on players having long-term, statistically-backed success. To paraphrase The Rock, sometimes it just doesn't matter what you think.

 

[MrAlmost]

Sorry but this is the only appropriate response to "do you watch the games?"

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That's all you guys are getting from now on when you ask me that!

As for the rest, I think viewings are very important. They can help explain statistical results - sometimes to justify them, or sometimes to debunk them as sample errors or random variance (and that's secondary by the way; the primary reason I watch the game is to *checks notes* watch the game and I do in fact root for the Rangers). I tend to think the results are what they are and viewings can provide, like I said, some justification (or debunking) or further analysis of the results you've gotten. Most people do the opposite. They think their subjective thoughts on the game are concrete results or "we won/lost and literally nothing else matters" and then maybe you can squeeze analytics in, but if they say the opposite of what you thought, they're out.

My main problem with viewings is that they're heavily subject to recall. When you watch a three-hour hockey game, you've forgotten most of it by midnight, and then your mind takes over. That's not "I understand hockey better than you do" nonsense that some people are trying to shill in this thread. That's just what people do. We don't remember the minutiae of what we consume unless we're making an active effort to do so, and even then it's hard. That's why scouts take extensive notes and rely on film. What you retain is extremely susceptible to bias which we all have and it's not inherently a bad thing.

I don't bother tracking stats manually because there's already such a wealth of that available without doing the work. I did once watch an entire replay of a game watching Dan Girardi in iso to try and find why the analytics and what Rangers fans saw were so mismatched. I basically came to the conclusion that he made a lot of nice defensive plays (easy to recall) but the sheer quantity of defensive plays he made was due to the fact that he was always defending. He wasn't actually defending effectively so as to stop the other team. He would do something cool but then they still had the puck. Meanwhile, you might watch that game and then two hours later say "gee, Girardi made six crazy blocks today" because that's what you retained. It doesn't make you stupid - that's natural.

I wasn't being condescending bud. Was just asking. Thanks for the response.

 

[bhamill]

Yeah, it's all subjective.

I just think some folks need a better understanding of what we're dealing with. It's recall and bias. Somehow people take offense to that because they think if they saw something and concluded something, it's gospel. Imagine the ego.

And absolutely, 100% people will just regurgitate narratives and then be like "but I watched it!" when you call them out on it. And we're not talking about people who watch 82 Rangers games, we're talking about people who watch three and then comment. I still see "I'm just not impressed by Adam Fox," which is why I use him as an example.

And the correct response is "I don't care what you're impressed by." He's done what he's done; you don't get to have an opinion on players having long-term, statistically-backed success. To paraphrase The Rock, sometimes it just doesn't matter what you think.

Yeah. This is all fair.

 

[Machinehead]

I wasn't being condescending bud. Was just asking. Thanks for the response.

I'm not being condescending either, just taking the piss a bit because I think it's a very silly question.

I have over 120,000 posts, I'm here all the time, I made the avatars. You think I'm not watching this team? Not even Ric Flair can work like that.

I do (occasionally) listen on radio and I bring it up mostly because Stemmer and Maloney say very, very silly things that I like to share.

 

[DialUp]

I'm not being condescending either, just taking the piss a bit because I think it's a very silly question.

I have over 120,000 posts, I'm here all the time, I made the avatars. You think I'm not watching this team? Not even Ric Flair can work like that.

I do (occasionally) listen on radio and I bring it up mostly because Stemmer and Maloney say very, very silly things that I like to share.

You listen to wrestling on the radio?

 

[CapFriendly]

You do seem correct. The way capfriendly wrote that note is a bit misleading

Agreed, we've corrected the language to be more explicit now

 

[frozenrubber]

Yeah, it's all subjective.

I just think some folks need a better understanding of what we're dealing with. It's recall and bias. Somehow people take offense to that because they think if they saw something and concluded something, it's gospel. Imagine the ego.

And absolutely, 100% people will just regurgitate narratives and then be like "but I watched it!" when you call them out on it. And we're not talking about people who watch 82 Rangers games, we're talking about people who watch three and then comment. I still see "I'm just not impressed by Adam Fox," which is why I use him as an example.

And the correct response is "I don't care what you're impressed by." He's done what he's done; you don't get to have an opinion on players having long-term, statistically-backed success. To paraphrase The Rock, sometimes it just doesn't matter what you think.

Bias, you say?

If you asked this board for the 'eye test' of color of the dress:

- Black and Blue
- White and Gold

The HF Answer: Ryan Strome can go f*** himself

(PS: I don't particularly care for Ryan Strome myself, either despite being a slamdunk of a player for 4.5M or acquiring for Ryan f***ing Spooner)

 

[Machinehead]

Bias, you say?

If you asked this board for the 'eye test' of color of the dress:

- Black and Blue
- White and Gold

The HF Answer: Ryan Strome can go f*** himself

(PS: I don't particularly care for Ryan Strome myself, either despite being a slamdunk of a player for 4.5M or acquiring for Ryan f***ing Spooner)

That thing's blue and black.

Anybody who says white and gold is a Darroll Powe fan.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Bias, you say?

If you asked this board for the 'eye test' of color of the dress:

- Black and Blue
- White and Gold

The HF Answer: Ryan Strome can go f*** himself

(PS: I don't particularly care for Ryan Strome myself, either despite being a slamdunk of a player for 4.5M or acquiring for Ryan f***ing Spooner)

I originally saw the dress as blue & black and couldn’t possibly understand anyone seeing white & gold. Then months later I saw it as white & gold. Now I see it as a hybrid of both, I can see both lol

 

[frozenrubber]

That thing's blue and black.

Anybody who says white and gold is a Darroll Powe fan.

Daroll Powe was a superstar, his career shooting percentage is nearly double that of Julien Gauthier's...

(Marek Malik's shooting percentage is also higher....just wow)

 

[frozenrubber]

I originally saw the dress as blue & black and couldn’t possibly understand anyone seeing white & gold. Then months later I saw it as white & gold. Now I see it as a hybrid of both, I can see both lol

Bullshit, you see Kravstov's Hall of Fame plaque and Trouba eating a can of beans alone.

 

[McRanger92]

They’re dangerous because of their structure, and the Bergeron line basically guarantees one of your top lines is going to disappear for an entire series. I think their goaltending could get them in trouble, but BOS also has the potential to play spoiler for a lot of teams, especially if they get everyone healthy enough for the playoffs

I think Igor gives the rangers a major edge of Boston. The team that should be terrified to play Boston is Carolina. Who is scoring if Bergeron shuts down the Aho line?

 

[duhmetreE]

He has watched us play multiple times and still went with the narrative. Obviously, you're omniscient but most people aren't. That's what most people do. If you don't think so, then you haven't read enough mind melting takes based on "I watched" that can be refuted easily.

 

[duhmetreE]

Sorry but this is the only appropriate response to "do you watch the games?"

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but you don't watch games

or at least you listen to them

 

[Machinehead]

but you don't watch games

or at least you listen to them

I listened to like 5 games on radio all year

This is your eye test working again

 

[duhmetreE]

I listened to like 5 games on radio all year

This is your eye test working again

It was a joke.

My xJokes/60 should have made that evident.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I think Igor gives the rangers a major edge of Boston. The team that should be terrified to play Boston is Carolina. Who is scoring if Bergeron shuts down the Aho line?

Igor will give us an advantage against everyone, which is why I’m cautiously optimistic about this team with how much better they’ve been since the deadline.

Carolina has killed Boston in the 3 games they’ve played them this season and have outscored them 16-1, so I don’t think it’ll be that much of an issue with their overall team depth.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Rangers have room for one more expensive player. The Rangers sign Copp. That's it. They don't have cap space for another big ticket. Trading for a center will be too expensive. All of these teams want players the Rangers don't want to trade and the Rangers can't afford to keep the player long-term. JT Miller. Dylan Larkin. The same recycled names. The Rangers can't afford the $8.5M contract extension.

What happens with Nils Lundkvist? His agent will not be happy with his client playing in the AHL next season. Claude Lemieux. He also represented Lias Andersson. Nip it in the bud. The Rangers don't have room for Nils. Many teams can use Nils Lundkvist.

The Rangers can't trade Lundkvist for a player who makes money because the Rangers have no money.

Anaheim needs an infusion of youth on D. Verbeek traded for Drew Helleson in the Manson deal. Jamie Drysdale is there. He is very similar to Lundkvist. The Ducks don't need Nils.

Edmonton doesn't need Nils. They have Dylan Holloway but Edmonton has Evan Bouchard. They have Tyson Barrie under contract.

LA? No. They have top many RHD in the organization.

San Jose needs a young player with a pulse but they have Karlsson and Burns on the right side making big $$$$. What are the Sharks sending back to the Rangers?

Seattle is an expansion team. They don't have many assets to trade unless the Rangers want a bunch of 2nd round picks.

Vancouver has Quinn Hughes and Jack Rathbone. Those players are lefties. Rathbone is in the AHL. Is there for Hughes and Lundkvist? Vancouver wants KAM or Schneider.

Vegas has Pietrangelo signed long-term. Zach Whitehead is there. They have a former 2nd round pick. Kaeden Korczak in the AHL. Vegas has other issues to worry about.

Arizona has Victor Soderstrom playing in the AHL. Do they want another smallish RHD Swedish D? No.

Colorado has Cal Makar. They also have Samuel Girard. How many small D can play on one team?

Winnipeg already has their Lundkvist in Ville Heinola. The latter is a lefty. The Jets coaches don't play the kid. Will they find time for Nils? Lundkvist for Heinola would be ironic. The Rangers acquired Winnipeg's 1st in 2019 for Kevin Hayes. The Rangers traded that pick and Neal Pionk to Winnipeg for Trouba. Winnipeg selects Heinola with the pick. Completing the circle would Lundkvist to Winnipeg for Heinola.

None of the teams in the Rangers division except maybe Carolina. Will they keep Tony? Pesce is there. What will Carolina give the Rangers?

Detroit? They have Sieder on RD. Hronek is signed for a couple of more seasons. Yzerman has draft two Swedish D very high in the last two drafts. Edvinson and Wallinder.

Florida? No.

TB? No

Toronto? They have already two Swedish D on their team trying to establish themselves.

Calgary? Maybe. They don't have many young D in their organization. They have Jacob Pelletier. The Rangers acquire Pelletier to include him in another deal. Not likely.

Chicago? They don't have much behind Seth Jones. Connor Murphy is signed long-term. The Hawks don't have much to trade.

St.Louis? They don't have many young D. The Blues usually like to trade for veteran D and extend them.

Boston? I was watching the Bruins-Blues a few days ago on ESPN. The Bruins allowed Torey Krug to leave as a free agent to the Blues. McAvoy is a great player but he isn't a true PP QB. The Bruins do have Fabian Lysell who is a good prospect. Probably not.

Buffalo could use Lundkvist. What are the Rangers acquiring from Buffalo?

Ottawa? Lundkvist would fit their team but they have some RHD under contract for next season? Zaitsev. Zub. Harmonic. They have two former 1st round pick righty D in the AHL. Bernard-Docker and Thomson. Bernard-Docker was the player Ottawa selected in the Rangers trade for KAM.

Best options for the Rangers.

Minnesota? The Wild are facing a cap crunch. Guerin could trade Dumba's $6M cap hit instead of trading Fiala. There is not much depth behind Spurgeon. Minnesota has Calen Addison but they don't seem to have much faith in him. Guerin was part of the management team in Pittsburgh when Addison was selected by them. Billy traded for Addison in the Zucker trade. Addison has played 18 NHL games in his first two pro seasons. Does Minnesota like Lundkvist instead of Addison? The Wild have a young D in Carson Lambos who would fit the Rangers. He has one year of junior eligibility remaining. Lambro's was selected with Pittsburgh's pick acquired in the Zucker trade. The Rangers seem to prefer the CHL players under Chris Morehouse. The Rangers would have their Ryan Lindgren replacement waiting in the wings. Cap casualty. The Wild have selected a number of LHD in the recent drafts. They could swap Lambros for Lundkvist and still have depth on the left side.

Nashville? They have Phil Tomasino who would fit the Rangers. Nashville traded Ryan Ellis last summer. They could use another RHD behind Fabbro. Lundkvist is cheap. He can play big minutes for them. Nashville will have $25M invested in their top 3 forwards after they sign Forsberg.

The best fit is the Dallas Stars. The Stars have Wyatt Johnson. 1st round pick 2021. The Rangers know him very well. Windsor. Will Cuylle. John Klingberg is a free agent this summer. There hasn't been much progress in contract talks with Klingberg. The Stars couldn't trade Klingberg as a rental. They have too much money invested in their team to sell off pieces. They need to make the playoffs. Robertson and Hintz will get the bag in their next contracts. The Stars can't really afford Klingberg. Lundkvist fits like a glove in Dallas. RHD. His contract works for their cap. He will be terrific for them. The Rangers get their young center option in Johnson who has one more year of junior eligibility remaining.

 

[haohmaru]

The best fit is the Dallas Stars. The Stars have Wyatt Johnson. 1st round pick 2021. The Rangers know him very well. Windsor. Will Cuylle. John Klingberg is a free agent this summer. There hasn't been much progress in contract talks with Klingberg. The Stars couldn't trade Klingberg as a rental. They have too much money invested in their team to sell off pieces. They need to make the playoffs. Robertson and Hintz will get the bag in their next contracts. The Stars can't really afford Klingberg. Lundkvist fits like a glove in Dallas. RHD. His contract works for their cap. He will be terrific for them. The Rangers get their young center option in Johnson who has one more year of junior eligibility remaining.

Well thought out. I'm in.

 

[Kupo]

The Rangers have room for one more expensive player. The Rangers sign Copp. That's it. They don't have cap space for another big ticket. Trading for a center will be too expensive. All of these teams want players the Rangers don't want to trade and the Rangers can't afford to keep the player long-term. JT Miller. Dylan Larkin. The same recycled names. The Rangers can't afford the $8.5M contract extension.

What happens with Nils Lundkvist? His agent will not be happy with his client playing in the AHL next season. Claude Lemieux. He also represented Lias Andersson. Nip it in the bud. The Rangers don't have room for Nils. Many teams can use Nils Lundkvist.

The Rangers can't trade Lundkvist for a player who makes money because the Rangers have no money.

Anaheim needs an infusion of youth on D. Verbeek traded for Drew Helleson in the Manson deal. Jamie Drysdale is there. He is very similar to Lundkvist. The Ducks don't need Nils.

Edmonton doesn't need Nils. They have Dylan Holloway but Edmonton has Evan Bouchard. They have Tyson Barrie under contract.

LA? No. They have top many RHD in the organization.

San Jose needs a young player with a pulse but they have Karlsson and Burns on the right side making big $$$$. What are the Sharks sending back to the Rangers?

Seattle is an expansion team. They don't have many assets to trade unless the Rangers want a bunch of 2nd round picks.

Vancouver has Quinn Hughes and Jack Rathbone. Those players are lefties. Rathbone is in the AHL. Is there for Hughes and Lundkvist? Vancouver wants KAM or Schneider.

Vegas has Pietrangelo signed long-term. Zach Whitehead is there. They have a former 2nd round pick. Kaeden Korczak in the AHL. Vegas has other issues to worry about.

Arizona has Victor Soderstrom playing in the AHL. Do they want another smallish RHD Swedish D? No.

Colorado has Cal Makar. They also have Samuel Girard. How many small D can play on one team?

Winnipeg already has their Lundkvist in Ville Heinola. The latter is a lefty. The Jets coaches don't play the kid. Will they find time for Nils? Lundkvist for Heinola would be ironic. The Rangers acquired Winnipeg's 1st in 2019 for Kevin Hayes. The Rangers traded that pick and Neal Pionk to Winnipeg for Trouba. Winnipeg selects Heinola with the pick. Completing the circle would Lundkvist to Winnipeg for Heinola.

None of the teams in the Rangers division except maybe Carolina. Will they keep Tony? Pesce is there. What will Carolina give the Rangers?

Detroit? They have Sieder on RD. Hronek is signed for a couple of more seasons. Yzerman has draft two Swedish D very high in the last two drafts. Edvinson and Wallinder.

Florida? No.

TB? No

Toronto? They have already two Swedish D on their team trying to establish themselves.

Calgary? Maybe. They don't have many young D in their organization. They have Jacob Pelletier. The Rangers acquire Pelletier to include him in another deal. Not likely.

Chicago? They don't have much behind Seth Jones. Connor Murphy is signed long-term. The Hawks don't have much to trade.

St.Louis? They don't have many young D. The Blues usually like to trade for veteran D and extend them.

Boston? I was watching the Bruins-Blues a few days ago on ESPN. The Bruins allowed Torey Krug to leave as a free agent to the Blues. McAvoy is a great player but he isn't a true PP QB. The Bruins do have Fabian Lysell who is a good prospect. Probably not.

Buffalo could use Lundkvist. What are the Rangers acquiring from Buffalo?

Ottawa? Lundkvist would fit their team but they have some RHD under contract for next season? Zaitsev. Zub. Harmonic. They have two former 1st round pick righty D in the AHL. Bernard-Docker and Thomson. Bernard-Docker was the player Ottawa selected in the Rangers trade for KAM.

Best options for the Rangers.

Minnesota? The Wild are facing a cap crunch. Guerin could trade Dumba's $6M cap hit instead of trading Fiala. There is not much depth behind Spurgeon. Minnesota has Calen Addison but they don't seem to have much faith in him. Guerin was part of the management team in Pittsburgh when Addison was selected by them. Billy traded for Addison in the Zucker trade. Addison has played 18 NHL games in his first two pro seasons. Does Minnesota like Lundkvist instead of Addison? The Wild have a young D in Carson Lambos who would fit the Rangers. He has one year of junior eligibility remaining. Lambro's was selected with Pittsburgh's pick acquired in the Zucker trade. The Rangers seem to prefer the CHL players under Chris Morehouse. The Rangers would have their Ryan Lindgren replacement waiting in the wings. Cap casualty. The Wild have selected a number of LHD in the recent drafts. They could swap Lambros for Lundkvist and still have depth on the left side.

Nashville? They have Phil Tomasino who would fit the Rangers. Nashville traded Ryan Ellis last summer. They could use another RHD behind Fabbro. Lundkvist is cheap. He can play big minutes for them. Nashville will have $25M invested in their top 3 forwards after they sign Forsberg.

The best fit is the Dallas Stars. The Stars have Wyatt Johnson. 1st round pick 2021. The Rangers know him very well. Windsor. Will Cuylle. John Klingberg is a free agent this summer. There hasn't been much progress in contract talks with Klingberg. The Stars couldn't trade Klingberg as a rental. They have too much money invested in their team to sell off pieces. They need to make the playoffs. Robertson and Hintz will get the bag in their next contracts. The Stars can't really afford Klingberg. Lundkvist fits like a glove in Dallas. RHD. His contract works for their cap. He will be terrific for them. The Rangers get their young center option in Johnson who has one more year of junior eligibility remaining.

Posts like this is what keeps me coming to HF. Good shit RB.

 

[bl02]

Not sure where to post this but we now know the playoffs start May 2nd. I believe the Rangers will most likely start on May 2nd (since it seems we have home ice in first round at least). There seems to be an event on thursday the 5th at MSG. I know probably to early to post this but just wanna make sure my work schedule is clear for game 1

 

[17futurecap]

The Rangers have room for one more expensive player. The Rangers sign Copp. That's it. They don't have cap space for another big ticket. Trading for a center will be too expensive. All of these teams want players the Rangers don't want to trade and the Rangers can't afford to keep the player long-term. JT Miller. Dylan Larkin. The same recycled names. The Rangers can't afford the $8.5M contract extension.

What happens with Nils Lundkvist? His agent will not be happy with his client playing in the AHL next season. Claude Lemieux. He also represented Lias Andersson. Nip it in the bud. The Rangers don't have room for Nils. Many teams can use Nils Lundkvist.

The Rangers can't trade Lundkvist for a player who makes money because the Rangers have no money.

Anaheim needs an infusion of youth on D. Verbeek traded for Drew Helleson in the Manson deal. Jamie Drysdale is there. He is very similar to Lundkvist. The Ducks don't need Nils.

Edmonton doesn't need Nils. They have Dylan Holloway but Edmonton has Evan Bouchard. They have Tyson Barrie under contract.

LA? No. They have top many RHD in the organization.

San Jose needs a young player with a pulse but they have Karlsson and Burns on the right side making big $$$$. What are the Sharks sending back to the Rangers?

Seattle is an expansion team. They don't have many assets to trade unless the Rangers want a bunch of 2nd round picks.

Vancouver has Quinn Hughes and Jack Rathbone. Those players are lefties. Rathbone is in the AHL. Is there for Hughes and Lundkvist? Vancouver wants KAM or Schneider.

Vegas has Pietrangelo signed long-term. Zach Whitehead is there. They have a former 2nd round pick. Kaeden Korczak in the AHL. Vegas has other issues to worry about.

Arizona has Victor Soderstrom playing in the AHL. Do they want another smallish RHD Swedish D? No.

Colorado has Cal Makar. They also have Samuel Girard. How many small D can play on one team?

Winnipeg already has their Lundkvist in Ville Heinola. The latter is a lefty. The Jets coaches don't play the kid. Will they find time for Nils? Lundkvist for Heinola would be ironic. The Rangers acquired Winnipeg's 1st in 2019 for Kevin Hayes. The Rangers traded that pick and Neal Pionk to Winnipeg for Trouba. Winnipeg selects Heinola with the pick. Completing the circle would Lundkvist to Winnipeg for Heinola.

None of the teams in the Rangers division except maybe Carolina. Will they keep Tony? Pesce is there. What will Carolina give the Rangers?

Detroit? They have Sieder on RD. Hronek is signed for a couple of more seasons. Yzerman has draft two Swedish D very high in the last two drafts. Edvinson and Wallinder.

Florida? No.

TB? No

Toronto? They have already two Swedish D on their team trying to establish themselves.

Calgary? Maybe. They don't have many young D in their organization. They have Jacob Pelletier. The Rangers acquire Pelletier to include him in another deal. Not likely.

Chicago? They don't have much behind Seth Jones. Connor Murphy is signed long-term. The Hawks don't have much to trade.

St.Louis? They don't have many young D. The Blues usually like to trade for veteran D and extend them.

Boston? I was watching the Bruins-Blues a few days ago on ESPN. The Bruins allowed Torey Krug to leave as a free agent to the Blues. McAvoy is a great player but he isn't a true PP QB. The Bruins do have Fabian Lysell who is a good prospect. Probably not.

Buffalo could use Lundkvist. What are the Rangers acquiring from Buffalo?

Ottawa? Lundkvist would fit their team but they have some RHD under contract for next season? Zaitsev. Zub. Harmonic. They have two former 1st round pick righty D in the AHL. Bernard-Docker and Thomson. Bernard-Docker was the player Ottawa selected in the Rangers trade for KAM.

Best options for the Rangers.

Minnesota? The Wild are facing a cap crunch. Guerin could trade Dumba's $6M cap hit instead of trading Fiala. There is not much depth behind Spurgeon. Minnesota has Calen Addison but they don't seem to have much faith in him. Guerin was part of the management team in Pittsburgh when Addison was selected by them. Billy traded for Addison in the Zucker trade. Addison has played 18 NHL games in his first two pro seasons. Does Minnesota like Lundkvist instead of Addison? The Wild have a young D in Carson Lambos who would fit the Rangers. He has one year of junior eligibility remaining. Lambro's was selected with Pittsburgh's pick acquired in the Zucker trade. The Rangers seem to prefer the CHL players under Chris Morehouse. The Rangers would have their Ryan Lindgren replacement waiting in the wings. Cap casualty. The Wild have selected a number of LHD in the recent drafts. They could swap Lambros for Lundkvist and still have depth on the left side.

Nashville? They have Phil Tomasino who would fit the Rangers. Nashville traded Ryan Ellis last summer. They could use another RHD behind Fabbro. Lundkvist is cheap. He can play big minutes for them. Nashville will have $25M invested in their top 3 forwards after they sign Forsberg.

The best fit is the Dallas Stars. The Stars have Wyatt Johnson. 1st round pick 2021. The Rangers know him very well. Windsor. Will Cuylle. John Klingberg is a free agent this summer. There hasn't been much progress in contract talks with Klingberg. The Stars couldn't trade Klingberg as a rental. They have too much money invested in their team to sell off pieces. They need to make the playoffs. Robertson and Hintz will get the bag in their next contracts. The Stars can't really afford Klingberg. Lundkvist fits like a glove in Dallas. RHD. His contract works for their cap. He will be terrific for them. The Rangers get their young center option in Johnson who has one more year of junior eligibility remaining.

Glass in Nashville, hasn’t established himself in the NHL, but good year in the AHL. RFA with no arb rights, so would be cheap.

Rangers get say a 2nd or 3rd round pick since Nils is still on his ELC.

 

[McRanger92]

The Rangers have room for one more expensive player. The Rangers sign Copp. That's it. They don't have cap space for another big ticket. Trading for a center will be too expensive. All of these teams want players the Rangers don't want to trade and the Rangers can't afford to keep the player long-term. JT Miller. Dylan Larkin. The same recycled names. The Rangers can't afford the $8.5M contract extension.

What happens with Nils Lundkvist? His agent will not be happy with his client playing in the AHL next season. Claude Lemieux. He also represented Lias Andersson. Nip it in the bud. The Rangers don't have room for Nils. Many teams can use Nils Lundkvist.

The Rangers can't trade Lundkvist for a player who makes money because the Rangers have no money.

Anaheim needs an infusion of youth on D. Verbeek traded for Drew Helleson in the Manson deal. Jamie Drysdale is there. He is very similar to Lundkvist. The Ducks don't need Nils.

Edmonton doesn't need Nils. They have Dylan Holloway but Edmonton has Evan Bouchard. They have Tyson Barrie under contract.

LA? No. They have top many RHD in the organization.

San Jose needs a young player with a pulse but they have Karlsson and Burns on the right side making big $$$$. What are the Sharks sending back to the Rangers?

Seattle is an expansion team. They don't have many assets to trade unless the Rangers want a bunch of 2nd round picks.

Vancouver has Quinn Hughes and Jack Rathbone. Those players are lefties. Rathbone is in the AHL. Is there for Hughes and Lundkvist? Vancouver wants KAM or Schneider.

Vegas has Pietrangelo signed long-term. Zach Whitehead is there. They have a former 2nd round pick. Kaeden Korczak in the AHL. Vegas has other issues to worry about.

Arizona has Victor Soderstrom playing in the AHL. Do they want another smallish RHD Swedish D? No.

Colorado has Cal Makar. They also have Samuel Girard. How many small D can play on one team?

Winnipeg already has their Lundkvist in Ville Heinola. The latter is a lefty. The Jets coaches don't play the kid. Will they find time for Nils? Lundkvist for Heinola would be ironic. The Rangers acquired Winnipeg's 1st in 2019 for Kevin Hayes. The Rangers traded that pick and Neal Pionk to Winnipeg for Trouba. Winnipeg selects Heinola with the pick. Completing the circle would Lundkvist to Winnipeg for Heinola.

None of the teams in the Rangers division except maybe Carolina. Will they keep Tony? Pesce is there. What will Carolina give the Rangers?

Detroit? They have Sieder on RD. Hronek is signed for a couple of more seasons. Yzerman has draft two Swedish D very high in the last two drafts. Edvinson and Wallinder.

Florida? No.

TB? No

Toronto? They have already two Swedish D on their team trying to establish themselves.

Calgary? Maybe. They don't have many young D in their organization. They have Jacob Pelletier. The Rangers acquire Pelletier to include him in another deal. Not likely.

Chicago? They don't have much behind Seth Jones. Connor Murphy is signed long-term. The Hawks don't have much to trade.

St.Louis? They don't have many young D. The Blues usually like to trade for veteran D and extend them.

Boston? I was watching the Bruins-Blues a few days ago on ESPN. The Bruins allowed Torey Krug to leave as a free agent to the Blues. McAvoy is a great player but he isn't a true PP QB. The Bruins do have Fabian Lysell who is a good prospect. Probably not.

Buffalo could use Lundkvist. What are the Rangers acquiring from Buffalo?

Ottawa? Lundkvist would fit their team but they have some RHD under contract for next season? Zaitsev. Zub. Harmonic. They have two former 1st round pick righty D in the AHL. Bernard-Docker and Thomson. Bernard-Docker was the player Ottawa selected in the Rangers trade for KAM.

Best options for the Rangers.

Minnesota? The Wild are facing a cap crunch. Guerin could trade Dumba's $6M cap hit instead of trading Fiala. There is not much depth behind Spurgeon. Minnesota has Calen Addison but they don't seem to have much faith in him. Guerin was part of the management team in Pittsburgh when Addison was selected by them. Billy traded for Addison in the Zucker trade. Addison has played 18 NHL games in his first two pro seasons. Does Minnesota like Lundkvist instead of Addison? The Wild have a young D in Carson Lambos who would fit the Rangers. He has one year of junior eligibility remaining. Lambro's was selected with Pittsburgh's pick acquired in the Zucker trade. The Rangers seem to prefer the CHL players under Chris Morehouse. The Rangers would have their Ryan Lindgren replacement waiting in the wings. Cap casualty. The Wild have selected a number of LHD in the recent drafts. They could swap Lambros for Lundkvist and still have depth on the left side.

Nashville? They have Phil Tomasino who would fit the Rangers. Nashville traded Ryan Ellis last summer. They could use another RHD behind Fabbro. Lundkvist is cheap. He can play big minutes for them. Nashville will have $25M invested in their top 3 forwards after they sign Forsberg.

The best fit is the Dallas Stars. The Stars have Wyatt Johnson. 1st round pick 2021. The Rangers know him very well. Windsor. Will Cuylle. John Klingberg is a free agent this summer. There hasn't been much progress in contract talks with Klingberg. The Stars couldn't trade Klingberg as a rental. They have too much money invested in their team to sell off pieces. They need to make the playoffs. Robertson and Hintz will get the bag in their next contracts. The Stars can't really afford Klingberg. Lundkvist fits like a glove in Dallas. RHD. His contract works for their cap. He will be terrific for them. The Rangers get their young center option in Johnson who has one more year of junior eligibility remaining.

Youve sold me on Nils to Dallas. Thats a team I could see Lundkvist having a very long career partnered with Heiskanen. You did @mas0764 's homework for him.

 

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Glass in Nashville, hasn’t established himself in the NHL, but good year in the AHL. RFA with no arb rights, so would be cheap.

Rangers get say a 2nd or 3rd round pick since Nils is still on his ELC.

The Rangers had interest in Glass in his draft year. Nashville just acquired him last summer, though, as part of the Ellis deal. I'm not sure they'd be ready to move him.

 

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The Rangers have room for one more expensive player. The Rangers sign Copp. That's it. They don't have cap space for another big ticket. Trading for a center will be too expensive. All of these teams want players the Rangers don't want to trade and the Rangers can't afford to keep the player long-term. JT Miller. Dylan Larkin. The same recycled names. The Rangers can't afford the $8.5M contract extension.

What happens with Nils Lundkvist? His agent will not be happy with his client playing in the AHL next season. Claude Lemieux. He also represented Lias Andersson. Nip it in the bud. The Rangers don't have room for Nils. Many teams can use Nils Lundkvist.

The Rangers can't trade Lundkvist for a player who makes money because the Rangers have no money.

Anaheim needs an infusion of youth on D. Verbeek traded for Drew Helleson in the Manson deal. Jamie Drysdale is there. He is very similar to Lundkvist. The Ducks don't need Nils.

Edmonton doesn't need Nils. They have Dylan Holloway but Edmonton has Evan Bouchard. They have Tyson Barrie under contract.

LA? No. They have top many RHD in the organization.

San Jose needs a young player with a pulse but they have Karlsson and Burns on the right side making big $$$$. What are the Sharks sending back to the Rangers?

Seattle is an expansion team. They don't have many assets to trade unless the Rangers want a bunch of 2nd round picks.

Vancouver has Quinn Hughes and Jack Rathbone. Those players are lefties. Rathbone is in the AHL. Is there for Hughes and Lundkvist? Vancouver wants KAM or Schneider.

Vegas has Pietrangelo signed long-term. Zach Whitehead is there. They have a former 2nd round pick. Kaeden Korczak in the AHL. Vegas has other issues to worry about.

Arizona has Victor Soderstrom playing in the AHL. Do they want another smallish RHD Swedish D? No.

Colorado has Cal Makar. They also have Samuel Girard. How many small D can play on one team?

Winnipeg already has their Lundkvist in Ville Heinola. The latter is a lefty. The Jets coaches don't play the kid. Will they find time for Nils? Lundkvist for Heinola would be ironic. The Rangers acquired Winnipeg's 1st in 2019 for Kevin Hayes. The Rangers traded that pick and Neal Pionk to Winnipeg for Trouba. Winnipeg selects Heinola with the pick. Completing the circle would Lundkvist to Winnipeg for Heinola.

None of the teams in the Rangers division except maybe Carolina. Will they keep Tony? Pesce is there. What will Carolina give the Rangers?

Detroit? They have Sieder on RD. Hronek is signed for a couple of more seasons. Yzerman has draft two Swedish D very high in the last two drafts. Edvinson and Wallinder.

Florida? No.

TB? No

Toronto? They have already two Swedish D on their team trying to establish themselves.

Calgary? Maybe. They don't have many young D in their organization. They have Jacob Pelletier. The Rangers acquire Pelletier to include him in another deal. Not likely.

Chicago? They don't have much behind Seth Jones. Connor Murphy is signed long-term. The Hawks don't have much to trade.

St.Louis? They don't have many young D. The Blues usually like to trade for veteran D and extend them.

Boston? I was watching the Bruins-Blues a few days ago on ESPN. The Bruins allowed Torey Krug to leave as a free agent to the Blues. McAvoy is a great player but he isn't a true PP QB. The Bruins do have Fabian Lysell who is a good prospect. Probably not.

Buffalo could use Lundkvist. What are the Rangers acquiring from Buffalo?

Ottawa? Lundkvist would fit their team but they have some RHD under contract for next season? Zaitsev. Zub. Harmonic. They have two former 1st round pick righty D in the AHL. Bernard-Docker and Thomson. Bernard-Docker was the player Ottawa selected in the Rangers trade for KAM.

Best options for the Rangers.

Minnesota? The Wild are facing a cap crunch. Guerin could trade Dumba's $6M cap hit instead of trading Fiala. There is not much depth behind Spurgeon. Minnesota has Calen Addison but they don't seem to have much faith in him. Guerin was part of the management team in Pittsburgh when Addison was selected by them. Billy traded for Addison in the Zucker trade. Addison has played 18 NHL games in his first two pro seasons. Does Minnesota like Lundkvist instead of Addison? The Wild have a young D in Carson Lambos who would fit the Rangers. He has one year of junior eligibility remaining. Lambro's was selected with Pittsburgh's pick acquired in the Zucker trade. The Rangers seem to prefer the CHL players under Chris Morehouse. The Rangers would have their Ryan Lindgren replacement waiting in the wings. Cap casualty. The Wild have selected a number of LHD in the recent drafts. They could swap Lambros for Lundkvist and still have depth on the left side.

Nashville? They have Phil Tomasino who would fit the Rangers. Nashville traded Ryan Ellis last summer. They could use another RHD behind Fabbro. Lundkvist is cheap. He can play big minutes for them. Nashville will have $25M invested in their top 3 forwards after they sign Forsberg.

The best fit is the Dallas Stars. The Stars have Wyatt Johnson. 1st round pick 2021. The Rangers know him very well. Windsor. Will Cuylle. John Klingberg is a free agent this summer. There hasn't been much progress in contract talks with Klingberg. The Stars couldn't trade Klingberg as a rental. They have too much money invested in their team to sell off pieces. They need to make the playoffs. Robertson and Hintz will get the bag in their next contracts. The Stars can't really afford Klingberg. Lundkvist fits like a glove in Dallas. RHD. His contract works for their cap. He will be terrific for them. The Rangers get their young center option in Johnson who has one more year of junior eligibility remaining.

Hehe....Zach Whitehead.