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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXXIV

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They are all smiling after the win last night against a playoffs team in Toronto so a winning culture while hopefully draft Jack Hughes in the lottery! :)

 
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bobbop said:
They may want a place to park Marleau next year. I think I read somewhere he had a no trade and the only places he would accept a trade to were New York and Southern California. No basis for this other than idle speculation on my part.
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Anaheim could be a landing spot for him. Carlyle was dragging that team down. They have a need for offense and they've looked much better since firing him.

They're not as bad of a team as their place in the standings suggests.
 
bobbop said:
So who is going to show the young players how to be successful? Jimmy Vesey? Brendan Smith?

They need to sign veteran role models. That’s how a locker room works. Have you ever been in a locker room?
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We’re a young team, but there are vets here. Zbad, Kreider, Fast, Strome, Staal, Shatty, Smith, Henrik...
 
Leetch3 said:
thats a terrible example considering how awful the oilers are
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No it’s the perfect example. McDavid and Draisaitl are 100 point players each and they have only played on dogshit teams. They didn’t need anyone to help them get there. Good players will get there whether or not they have a “vet” to teach them along the way.
 
The idea of trading with Toronto to get Marleau and then hitting hin our is intriguing. It allows him to re-sign with Toronto and make his money. That would be interesting to me
 
Berserk said:
No it’s the perfect example. McDavid and Draisaitl are 100 point players each and they have only played on dog**** teams. They didn’t need anyone to help them get there. Good players will get there whether or not they have a “vet” to teach them along the way.
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you missed the point of veteran leadership. veteran leadership is to teach young teams how to WIN not how to rack up points while still LOSING. no one ever claimed that you need vets to teach talented players how to be talented.
 
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Leetch3 said:
you missed the point of veteran leadership. veteran leadership is to teach young teams how to WIN not how to rack up points while still LOSING. no one ever claimed that you need vets to teach talented players how to be talented.
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Who were the vets who taught Chicago players how to win?
 
Leetch3 said:
you missed the point of veteran leadership. veteran leadership is to teach young teams how to WIN not how to rack up points while still LOSING. no one ever claimed that you need vets to teach talented players how to be talented.
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But they have veteran and cup winner Milan Lucic
 
bobbop said:
So who is going to show the young players how to be successful? Jimmy Vesey? Brendan Smith?

They need to sign veteran role models. That’s how a locker room works. Have you ever been in a locker room?
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Let's get better talent first. You can win with that more reliably than with veteran role models.

You don't need to be "shown" how to be successful. Ever.
 
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Lundqvist will still be here, Staal will still be here. If we do a cap trade for another vet that's fine but I don't know, these guys are better "professionals" than me, I'd take getting moved from Toronto or Tampa to the Rangers as kind of a kick in the balls.
 
Pierre Edouard Bellemare is another vet I’d look at. 1 year deal.

Oscar Lindbergh is a guy I’d bring back as a depth piece. I still think he can be a good 4c in the NHL
 
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When you’re young and new to an organization, having someone to mentor you helps unless that person is incompetent or malicious. That’s not even worth debating.

We’re talking about kids who are still teenagers. I was that age not that long ago - you’re not grown up, don’t have it all figured out and you can almost always benefit from someone experienced showing you the ropes in a new environment.

Yeah, McDavid can score 100 without an obvious mentor. Cool. We don’t have and in all likelihood won’t get a McDavid. He’s one in a million. Most people need guidance.
 
DanielBrassard said:
I could see guys like Bellemare getting multi-year deals, in which case we should be avoiding.
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I’d have a list of guys I’d look at and look to overpay in money to keep term down. What does Boyle get on his next contract? 2 years @ $2.5-2.75m? Offer him 1 year at $3.75m. Overpay to keep term down
 
NYR Viper said:
I’d have a list of guys I’d look at and look to overpay in money to keep term down. What does Boyle get on his next contract? 2 years @ $2.5-2.75m? Offer him 1 year at $3.75m. Overpay to keep term down
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Probably. Look at what Komarov, Beagle got last offseason, multiple years at 3M per. I'm also not sure we need any more forwards. We have 14 guys already, if you count Smith for next season.
 
I could see Cally coming back, I'm not sure exactly how tight Tampa's cap is next season but they have to re-sign Point, which is going to be ridiculous going from league minimum to like 8 million a year.

They've got some money coming off with Stralman, Coburn, and Girardi if they don't re-up them but they'll need to fill out the blueline somehow.

The short version is that I only think they'll give away a good asset to remove Cally for one year is if they really have no other option- and as I see it they do,
 
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