Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXI

[Avery16]

I dare you to propose that to an Oiler fan. Hell, I double dare ya.

Evaluation of the proposed deal aside, most fans don’t know anything and their individual evaluations of deals are meaningless.

 

[kovazub94]

Assuming that what you say is true, and the Oilers were to make Draisaitl available, do you really think the best offer they would get would be Leon for Geo, Chytil, Schneider, Garand and a 1st? For a Hart trophy winner.

Why do you encourage more 101110111? ; )

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Why do you encourage more 101110111? ; )

I'm a masochist.

 

[mas0764]

Why, if the cost makes sense and that player fills a hole that you have in your lineup what would the reason be to not do it? I would take tarasenko or pavelski on this team in an absolute heartbeat. I couldn't care less about his age right now. If you have a player that fills your need and isn't going to cripple you long-term on salary so long as the cost makes sense there's absolutely no reason to ignore those kind of players simply because they're in their 30s.

What’s the cost?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

So, uhh, what the heck is going on with Nemeth?



non-roster status?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Assuming that what you say is true, and the Oilers were to make Draisaitl available, do you really think the best offer they would get would be Leon for Geo, Chytil, Schneider, Garand and a 1st? For a Hart trophy winner.

Do teams always take the best deal available? The Rangers sold one of the best Dmen in team history for Libor Hajek. I’m not saying that’s a deal that will get a player like him, and one of our big guys Laff or Kakko would certainly go the other way, but there are some dummy GMs out there.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

You’re not stealing Draisaitl from Edmonton regardless of how stupid Holland is

it would cost one of Lafreniere or Kakko, Miller, multiple 1sts

Not Georgiev and other random garbage

 

[Fitzy]

You’re not stealing Draisaitl from Edmonton regardless of how stupid Holland is

it would cost one of Lafreniere or Kakko, Miller, multiple 1sts


Not Georgiev and other random garbage

Yeah I think Laf, Miller, Kravtsov, Jones, 1st, etc

I think you’re looking at a Lindros level return. I’m not sure a player that good in his prime has been traded since the 04 lockout. I guess you could make the case for Erik Karlsson but he was older and had more question marks about his health

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Do teams always take the best deal available? The Rangers sold one of the best Dmen in team history for Libor Hajek.

Well, you're skewing what the McDonagh trade return was. Do I know that was the best deal available? No. But there was no real reason for them to take less the ensure he went to TB (unless you have a theory that the Rangers were playing the long game on Barclay Goodrow).

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Do teams always take the best deal available? The Rangers sold one of the best Dmen in team history for Libor Hajek. I’m not saying that’s a deal that will get a player like him, and one of our big guys Laff or Kakko would certainly go the other way, but there are some dummy GMs out there.

This is revisionist history though.

at the time Hajek was one of the best prospects Tampa had and a lot of people thought he would become a very good #3 type defenseman in the league

If the Rangers knew what they know now, I’m sure they ask for someone else, but they didn’t.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

This is revisionist history though.

at the time Hajek was one of the best prospects Tampa had and a lot of people thought he would become a very good #3 type defenseman in the league

If the Rangers knew what they know now, I’m sure they ask for someone else, but they didn’t.

There should have been a Sergachev or a Pointe in that deal at a minimum. We got hosed, big time!

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Well, you're skewing what the McDonagh trade return was. Do I know that was the best deal available? No. But there was no real reason for them to take less the ensure he went to TB (unless you have a theory that the Rangers were playing the long game on Barclay Goodrow).

My point in bringing up the McD deal is that Rangers zeroed in on a player they really wanted who turned out to be a huge bust. Teams do this all the time. We have no idea what value some players hold to some teams. Whether it’s warranted or not is another story.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This is revisionist history though.

at the time Hajek was one of the best prospects Tampa had and a lot of people thought he would become a very good #3 type defenseman in the league

If the Rangers knew what they know now, I’m sure they ask for someone else, but they didn’t.

It was poor scouting on the Rangers part, but even at the time nobody was saying “oh my god can you believe the rangers were able to pry Hajek out of Tampa?” The reaction was “THAT was the guy they needed to have?!”

 

[Thirty One]

There should have been a Sergachev or a Pointe in that deal at a minimum.

lol

 

[TheBloodyNine]

 

[KOVALEV022473]

lol

Really? One of the best men in the league who happened to also be our captain and JT Miller. Tampa wins two cups in a row (thoroughly predictable) and Mac is still performing for them while Hajek is barely hanging on by a thread. But lol

 

[Thirty One]

Really? One of the best men in the league who happened to also be our captain and JT Miller. Tampa wins two cups in a row (thoroughly predictable) and Mac is still performing for them while Hajek is barely hanging on by a thread. But lol

Point was better than him then and is seven years younger. That he was even brought up is one of the dumber moments of human history.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

Point was better than him then and is seven years younger. That he was even brought up is one of the dumber moments of human history.

Lmao

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Being that we're in first place, and how well Georgie has played, I'd almost rather hang on to him for the year. Shesty has gotten hurt once already, also with Covid ect...Do we really want any part of this season to come down to Kinkaid/Huska? I think with how he's played, Georgie is a great insurance policy right now.

 

[Savant]

Yeah I think Laf, Miller, Kravtsov, Jones, 1st, etc

I think you’re looking at a Lindros level return. I’m not sure a player that good in his prime has been traded since the 04 lockout. I guess you could make the case for Erik Karlsson but he was older and had more question marks about his health

I mean, I would do it

 

[I Eat Crow]

So, uhh, what the heck is going on with Nemeth?



non-roster status?

I didn't even know Tinordi had COVID, heh. So basically the only reason Jones has played was because of that? Yikes.

No idea on Nemeth, have never heard of "non roster" status before. Maybe he's on IR? Surely if the Rangers outright are terminating his contract that he'd be put on waivers for purpose of a buyout, they'd say so?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So, uhh, what the heck is going on with Nemeth?



non-roster status?

Non-roster status usually means a personal leave of absence. The player still counts against the cap, but not towards the roster limit of 23.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

My point in bringing up the McD deal is that Rangers zeroed in on a player they really wanted who turned out to be a huge bust. Teams do this all the time. We have no idea what value some players hold to some teams. Whether it’s warranted or not is another story.

This is revisionist history though.

at the time Hajek was one of the best prospects Tampa had and a lot of people thought he would become a very good #3 type defenseman in the league

If the Rangers knew what they know now, I’m sure they ask for someone else, but they didn’t.

They also got two first picks and the possibility for a third.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

There should have been a Sergachev or a Pointe in that deal at a minimum. We got hosed, big time!

Who says they were available?