Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVII

[Pawnee Rangers]

WHAT!?! HELL TO THE NO. First off Strome is making basically $5m aav. His next contract will be even more money coming in around the 7m aav range. No way in hell is he worth that nor can you tell me that there arent better options out there for that price tag.

Strome is not a #2 center. He may put up points but we have beaten this horse to death already. Strome adds nothing to this team. Not good on faceoffs, poor defensive play, bad hockey IQ, and physically a p***y. No no no

He's not getting $7m on his next deal from us or any other team.

 

[pld459666]

All that rebuilding and we basically have one line of forwards for the future. Lafreniere-Chytil-Kakko.

Defense stocked top to bottom.

Forwards depth dry as a bone.

Seems like a solid foundation.

Goalie is set for the next 10 years.

Defence stocked top to bottom

Two cornerstones (at forward) to continue building around and a center that will top out as a 2nd liner.

All this in 3 years?

Not sure what you expected, but I consider that a HUGE win.

 

[bobbop]

WHAT!?! HELL TO THE NO. First off Strome is making basically $5m aav. His next contract will be even more money coming in around the 7m aav range. No way in hell is he worth that nor can you tell me that there arent better options out there for that price tag.

Strome is not a #2 center. He may put up points but we have beaten this horse to death already. Strome adds nothing to this team. Not good on faceoffs, poor defensive play, bad hockey IQ, and physically a p***y. No no no

With his CV, Strome is not getting Kevin Hayes money. Let’s see how this year goes. You are going to have a tough time replacing him.

For $7MM, yes there would be options. Question is what will those options cost, who are they and can you fit $7MM into the future cap?

 

[Kovalev27]

I really disagree. While yes we have Laf kakko and Chytil…

I also love Morgan Barron, Brett Berard, and Will Cuylle

I think Pajuniemi is a guy to watch. othmann of course is another. And I still think Henriksson may be able to carve out a bottom 6 role.

when you add that to a long term core of Panarin Zibanejad Kreider and the addition of Blais who isn’t going anywhere the forward group looks promising long term.

 

[Savant]

On 2c, I still feel that Yanni Gourde is the perfect fit. I think the last thing we need is some passenger that only will produce if they are handed things on a silver platter in the O-zone. Ziba and Chytil have a ton of size. Many of our wingers are better fits with dynamic speed at center ice.

Drury should stay in constant contact with Francis and Seattle. Its a tough start for Seattle. They could be out of contention quite soon. Make a deal around Nils for Gourde. Francis needs a RHS on the blueline.

This team would be a contender:
Laf-Zib-Kreider
Panarin-Chytil-Strome
Goodrow-Gourde-Kakko
Reeves-Rooney-Blais
Hunt

Seattle is the same as the Rangers. They have defenders coming out of their ears but unbalanced forward ‘depth’. Don’t think that is a good trade partner.

 

[pld459666]

I really disagree. While yes we have Laf kakko and Chytil…

I also love Morgan Barron, Brett Berard, and Will Cuylle

I think Pajuniemi is a guy to watch. othmann of course is another. And I still think Henriksson may be able to carve out a bottom 6 role.

when you add that to a long term core of Panarin Zibanejad Kreider and the addition of Blais who isn’t going anywhere the forward group looks promising long term.

Yeah, some folks love to ignore what we have and shit on what we are not....yet

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The team won’t win a thing with Strome as 2C. There has to be diversification there for them to be successful long term

Frankly though I’m worried Panarin is gonna call the shots and they’ll be forced to re-sign Strome to keep Panarin happy. Things are trending in that direction

 

[EdJovanovski]

Berard is going to bring the much needed drip we are lacking

 

[Kovalev27]

Strome shouldn’t be the guy but if Panarin loves him and you put Goodrow next to them long term maybe he can help clean up a lot of their short comings. To me that should be the line the rest of the year.

I still think lafreniere could best be served with the puck on his stick more further down the lineup. I love that lafreniere Chytil Blais line and I’d put kakko with Mika when healthy.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Berard is going to bring the much needed drip we are lacking

Well we know he won’t leave for Russia at least.

 

[rangers1314]

Was it ever confirmed that Strome had COVID? Given the length of his absence, I assume he did.

Will be interesting to see how it impacts him, if at all.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Berard is going to bring the much needed drip we are lacking

Interesting. Can't wait to see what we can back for him in the upcoming trade!

 

[bl02]

Strome shouldn’t be the guy but if Panarin loves him and you put Goodrow next to them long term maybe he can help clean up a lot of their short comings. To me that should be the line the rest of the year.

I still think lafreniere could best be served with the puck on his stick more further down the lineup. I love that lafreniere Chytil Blais line and I’d put kakko with Mika when healthy.

Yep it would be nice to see
Kreider-Mika-Kakko
Panarin-Strome-Goodrow
Laf-Chytil-Blais
Hunt-Rooney-Reaves
Barron (can slot in pretty much wing or center if injury).


Why break up the third line right now? Also allows Kreider to slot back at LW. And to me the only wing that will work right now on the Strome line is Goodrow or Blais.

 

[McRanger92]

All that rebuilding and we basically have one line of forwards for the future. Lafreniere-Chytil-Kakko.

Defense stocked top to bottom.

Forwards depth dry as a bone.

Thats why Kreider/Mika/Panarin all got long term deals. People can complain about the money/years all they want, but what would we look like without these guys?

 

[JohnC]

Was it ever confirmed that Strome had COVID? Given the length of his absence, I assume he did.

Will be interesting to see how it impacts him, if at all.

We were told before the season started that the entire team was vaccinated, so I imagine it shouldn’t affect him much at all.

 

[McRanger92]

"I'd be lying if I said there wasn't a different kind of feel in that situation," Trouba said. "Teams you've been on in the past, you kind of get the feeling of, ‘Oh, no.’ On this team, it’s definitely not an ‘oh, no’ feeling. It’s, ‘Let's shut this thing down and close it out.’ We know what to do. It's not really overthought. Everybody knows their job, so do your job and we'll be fine."

NY Rangers return from road trip with budding sense of 'cohesiveness'

K'Andre Miller also made an interesting comment about last year. Brooks (i think) asked him if last year he was asked to tone down his physicality, and Miller paused for a moment and replied "Yeah, lets go with that" and smiled. The night and day difference in the locker room from last year makes me think it was much worse than we thought. Quinn clearly had no control over what was going on.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Yep it would be nice to see
Kreider-Mika-Kakko
Panarin-Strome-Goodrow
Laf-Chytil-Blais
Hunt-Rooney-Reaves
Barron (can slot in pretty much wing or center if injury).


Why break up the third line right now? Also allows Kreider to slot back at LW. And to me the only wing that will work right now on the Strome line is Goodrow or Blais.

Barron is young no need to keep him as an extra and ruin his development, he is 22. that is what McKegg is for to be the depth extra scratch while the prospects get minutes until they move them for Eichel or Larkin.. Barron should be in the AHL or get top 9 minutes here on the Rangers,

 

[bl02]

Barron is young no need to keep him as an extra and ruin his development, he is 22. that is what McKegg is for to be the depth extra scratch while the prospects get minutes until they move them for Eichel or Larkin.. Barron should be in the AHL or get top 9 minutes here on the Rangers,

absolutely have no problem with that. I am sure he doesn’t have to go thru waivers so unless we really need him let him marinate more in the Ahl

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

On 2c, I still feel that Yanni Gourde is the perfect fit. I think the last thing we need is some passenger that only will produce if they are handed things on a silver platter in the O-zone. Ziba and Chytil have a ton of size. Many of our wingers are better fits with dynamic speed at center ice.

Drury should stay in constant contact with Francis and Seattle. Its a tough start for Seattle. They could be out of contention quite soon. Make a deal around Nils for Gourde. Francis needs a RHS on the blueline.

This team would be a contender:
Laf-Zib-Kreider
Panarin-Chytil-Strome
Goodrow-Gourde-Kakko
Reeves-Rooney-Blais
Hunt

If thats what we get for Nils than oh how our mighty pipeline of talented young prospects arent worth muc.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

He's not getting $7m on his next deal from us or any other team.

Lol then what is he getting? Because he already getting 5m per. so even a raise of 1.5 brings him to over 6. Still doesnt take away from my point that there are better fits at center for us in that price range

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

With his CV, Strome is not getting Kevin Hayes money. Let’s see how this year goes. You are going to have a tough time replacing him.

For $7MM, yes there would be options. Question is what will those options cost, who are they and can you fit $7MM into the future cap?

You are basically doing that 7mm in future cap on strome. Really? Because he is only 2m away from it and that was before he was recording points. So again to say he isnt getting a raise is not doing your homework.

Yes we would have a tough time replacing him but maybe its time for chytl to take his shot, let barron and richards up to see what they have. Also even at stromes current cap hit he isnt good. He does nothing for this team. I would rather see that than resign strome.

At 5-7m per cap hit there are better options and maybe that option is through a trade by trading one of our many defensive prospects with kravy and a pick for someone.

 

[bobbop]

You are basically doing that 7mm in future cap on strome. Really? Because he is only 2m away from it and that was before he was recording points. So again to say he isnt getting a raise is not doing your homework.

Yes we would have a tough time replacing him but maybe its time for chytl to take his shot, let barron and richards up to see what they have. Also even at stromes current cap hit he isnt good. He does nothing for this team. I would rather see that than resign strome.

At 5-7m per cap hit there are better options and maybe that option is through a trade by trading one of our many defensive prospects with kravy and a pick for someone.

No GM who has watched his whole career is giving him $7MM. C'mon man!

 

[Avery16]

Strome will want term and a NMC. That’s where a contract extension will be won or lost. I have zero confidence in Drury to accomplish much here.

 

[jay from jersey]

He's not getting $7m on his next deal from us or any other team.

I absolutely think he will. Especially if he stays in the 3-4 year range. There are going to be some teams with a majority of their centers on ELC or cheap deals that will add him.
The question is, can he maybe produce the same with say Kaprizov or Zucc as he does with Panarin? How about the kids in Ott? They reportedly had some interest?
Teams will gamble for 2-3 years, not for a Zibby level 7-8 though.
Better not be us.
I’d rather have a younger more complete 2-way player thats more of a stylistic difference in play to Zibby then strome is.
id rather bet on Panarin increasing that players point totals then bet on strome becoming a more well rounded complete center that also needs a raise

 

[jay from jersey]

I really disagree. While yes we have Laf kakko and Chytil…

I also love Morgan Barron, Brett Berard, and Will Cuylle

I think Pajuniemi is a guy to watch. othmann of course is another. And I still think Henriksson may be able to carve out a bottom 6 role.

when you add that to a long term core of Panarin Zibanejad Kreider and the addition of Blais who isn’t going anywhere the forward group looks promising long term.

Don’t forget Othmann and Richards and longer shots like Vierling, Edstrom, Ruesschoff, Gettinger etc
If 1-2 make it from that 2nd group we’ll be in solid shape.
The cupboard is far from bare, it may not have any high end prospects, but LaF/Kakko/Fox arent old. They just graduated.
Don’t forget about the returns. That’s going to be key.
I’m sorry to keep bringing this up, but the fact remains were likely trading 2 of Miller/Jones/Lundkvist/Robertson in the next year, year and a half max.
Schneider likely starts 3rd pair next season.
So along with kravtsov, we should get some solid pieces back.
Rangers also will still likely acquire more 1st and 2nd rd picks in the next 2 solid drafts.
I’m sure we’ll have some interesting prospects, both drafts have a lot of talent.
We also see to sign some pretty damn good undrafted talent like Girardi/Pionk/etc
This isn’t a doomsday scenario where the rebuild is ruined or our window is shut because kravtsov has an attitude problem. That’s silly