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Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVII

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gravey9 said:
Yeah, there's a lot of things that need attention right now. Hopefully the 3 days off and practice time will help.

The PP needs a ton more movement. Agreed. Movement creates options. Options create unpredictability.

Defensively, we need the forwards to really pick up the slack. Our D pairings really need more support, both in defending the rush and having easier outlet passes. Once we're hemmed in, team does an okay to decent job of playing man on man and switching. But when we start to go south defensively it's all about our forwards not being in a position to support coverage switches, defend rushes and outlet passes.

Similarly, when our forwards are not pressuring the puck in the offensive zone, when they're not winning puck battles or forcing them, we have a hard time generating anything. Problem is, when Kakko and Reaves are both out it creates too many lines that can't generate a consistent forecheck/pressure. If only 2 out of three forwards on a given line are able to sustain pressure and create turnovers off boardwork it's very hard to establish and sustain the kind of forecheck that wears down opponents.

Laf, Gauthier, Panarin all have issues with this. And McKegg, while decent at creating turnovers with his speed and willingness to hound pucks, has a really hard time once he has possession. He tends to win possession and then give it up before something good happens. Similarly, Laf has a lot of trouble keeping his balance and being able to make plays when contact is made. He loses most walls battles as a result. He's okay at digging out pucks that other guys are scrumming for. But he's been mediocre at best at every other facet of the forecheck.

Beyond that, Panarin needs to limit his shifts. He needs to stop staying on after 45 or 50 seconds just because the play is headed to the offensive zone. The amount of times he's neglected to change and it's turned into a 90 second or beyond shift is pretty disappointing. I get that he's pressing. He's trying to help the team. But it hurts continuity when the lines that come after get so disrupted. It's hard to build chemistry if more than half your shift is usually spent with a guy who isn't even on your line.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Plus with all the player turnover, and implementation of Gallants system/style, a lot of guys just aren’t comfortable with each other yet.
Makes life a lot easier when you have a history with your line mates. For example, You know player X likes to cut back side to the net, or player Y likes to linger above the crease in between the circles, etc
There’s no real short cut for that. Just practicing and playing together constantly.
Can’t fast fwd Time....
We’re 4-2-1 and we haven’t seen the best we’re capable of. Not by a long shot. Gallants got to keep the compete level high, players have to buy in as well.
 
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Sounds like VGK is gearing up for Eichel. Extended whitecloud and signed Hutton.
 
Something that no one has really commented on is that Kreider has shown he is perfectly fine at performing as a RW as well.

I think if we could add either a solid vet at LW or RW it would help balance the lines out a lot

1st line: Kreider, Zib
2nd line: Panarin, Strome
3rd line: Laf, Chytil

Some combo of Kakko, Goodrow, and whoever the added player is to fill in the rest of the top 9
 
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eco's bones said:
It's early. If you're on the ledge already........I just don't know what to say except maybe you really do need to see a psychiatrist. Better that than jumping off. Our record isn't bad for a new coach getting use to new players. 5 of 7 games on the road so far and we're 4-2-1. A little f***ing patience before you make that big step.:cool:
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Agreed. Not 10% of the season yet.

I think we are going to look completely different after Thanksgiving and tjats with the same roster
 
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Tob said:
Sounds like VGK is gearing up for Eichel. Extended whitecloud and signed Hutton.
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Jesse Granger - the VGK reporter for the Athletic - had a huge twitter thread yesterday about a hypothetical Eichel to VGK trade situation, implying Shea Theodore could be part of the package based on all of these recent moves. I'd be floored if a player of that caliber is included in the trade, but Bill Foley is directing his team to do whatever it takes to win. Theodore is arguably one of the best dmen in the league and would be a monster playing with Dahlin.

 
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bleedblue94 said:
We all wanted Chytil to be that guy, and some people saw that he wasnt while others kept trying to force/will it into existence...
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There were 3 main themes this offseason on this Board. First was thrashing Kreider, second was the push to get rid of Strome bring in a 3rd line center and move Chytl to the number 2 spot since some claimed he was a stud number 2 and three was if we can't trade Strome then people were content going into the season with the same 3 centers we had last year. Fact is as some have pointed out we needed to add some athleticism and speed to the position. Neither Strome or Chytl fit the bill.
 
Tob said:
Sounds like VGK is gearing up for Eichel. Extended whitecloud and signed Hutton.
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I could see it.

Theodore+Krebs/Brisson+one of their wingers that make 5 mil+ to even out cap space like Evgeny Dadonov or Rielly Smith. Will be something like that with maybe a conditional pick.

Brisson plays with Power and even though I’d rather him than Krebs, Vegas may have to add value if it’s him because Krebs has higher perceived value. Smith/Dadonov would require an extra pick depending on which player it is. Kevyn Adams was at the MSU game yesterday and I do think it will be Brisson involved if a deal goes down

So two packages that I can see are

Theodore+Brisson+Smith+conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st if Eichel plays x amount of games

or

Theodore+Krebs+Dadonov+minor piece
 
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MrAlmost said:
Krav+Lundqvist+Their 2nd for Tarasenko with 2.5 retained. You think they would add Bortuzzo?
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I think that's an overpay, honestly. Tara's stock is rising again from an all-time low, but the Blues still need to move salary. We also have no room or need for Bortuzzo, a slightly better Nemeth. I would try for something like Kravtsov, Gauthier and a pick for Tara at $5m and Thomas.
 
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Summer of 2022 Pat Maroon is a Ranger on July 1. :sarcasm: I thought Goodrow would have been better. Not noticeable at all early in his Rangers career.
 
RangersFan1994 said:
Bortuzzo would be an upgrade over someone like Tinordi or Hajek. Rather have Jones, take Lundkvist spot if he is traded.
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Thats kind of my thinking. Hajek is looking more likely to be traded, and Bortuzzo is a better, right-handed version of Tinordi. And stops the Rangers from rushing a prospect into the lineup on their off side.
 
Avery16 said:
I think that's an overpay, honestly. Tara's stock is rising again from an all-time low, but the Blues still need to move salary. We also have no room or need for Bortuzzo, a slightly better Nemeth. I would try for something like Kravtsov, Gauthier and a pick for Tara at $5m and Thomas.
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I dont think you are gonna get Thomas as well. And who does he replace at center? There is more of a need for a sound defensive right side dman than a pass first center.
 
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