Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVII

[TheDirtyH]

That Nashville game was a good template for us. And if not for a few posts it couldve been a big score.

I was watching the Leafs-Blackhawks game last night, and even though their both losing teams, those players were clearly playing with some wounded pride and it was a really hard fought game. Watching them each fight to gain the line with possession, and watching players off the puck battle for space for stick position, if the puck went the other way there was no hesitation--guys were booking it back up ice.

Way too often--particularly with our 'skill' guys--that intensity, seeing yourself as vital and seeing every moment you're on ice as a moment demanding your full effort and attention.. it's just not there with this team.

There was a play last game where zibanejad came down the right wing on a partial break, shot the puck short side and just drifted to the corner. He then stood there and watched the puck get controlled by Calgary and start to go up ice, and it was already at the blue line by the time he decided to move his feet again and start following it.

We don't have the speed at forward that some other teams do. But if we have the depth now to roll four lines that won't kill us, there's no excuse for saving it for later or trying to take long shifts. Watching that game last night made me really disappointed with our team. I hope they start to compete harder soon.

 

[tomobson]

Maybe we need to build a team to win and not concern ourselves with individual success.

Here is a stat for you;

Since Panarin became a Ranger they have won zero playoff games and got in to one qualifying round due to a pandemic.

To be fair, I think Panarin is the least of our issues, aside from his slow start so far. He can't play playoff style hockey with Strome on his line. So he's doing the best with what he has to work with. Unless Strome decides to actually start playing center that line will continue to get shut down in the games that matter. The team needs to get comfortable with stacking the first line and sheltering Strome in the tough games.

 

[CLW]

To be fair, I think Panarin is the least of our issues, aside from his slow start so far. He can't play playoff style hockey with Strome on his line. So he's doing the best with what he has to work with. Unless Strome decides to actually start playing center that line will continue to get shut down in the games that matter. The team needs to get comfortable with stacking the first line and sheltering Strome in the tough games.

It's unfair to Strome to blame Panarin's laziness on Strome. Panarin needs to sort himself out and get on board with the complete game approach.

 

[Kravtsov420]

Mika and Panarin. Can’t really call out the one without the other. They’ve both been perimeter players so far this year. They float, and have not been engaged at all.

 

[EdJovanovski]

My dog got sprayed by a skunk

 

[JohnC]

I’m not worried about Panarin’s work ethic in the slightest. If he can play for Torts with no issues then he can play for Gallant no problem.

 

[CLW]

I’m not worried about Panarin’s work ethic in the slightest. If he can play for Torts with no issues then he can play for Gallant no problem.

Sure, we know he and Mika can, which is why it's so annoying to see them cling to the bad habits they developed under Quinn. We all agree those habits boosted their personal numbers, which is nice for them I guess, but the team can't fix it's issues if the most important players play for themselves and not the team.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I’m not worried about Panarin’s work ethic in the slightest. If he can play for Torts with no issues then he can play for Gallant no problem.

One of those was pre-paycheck and the other was post-paycheck +2

 

[DialUp]

My dog got sprayed by a skunk

Need to give the pup a tomato bath to get that stink out!

 

[JohnC]

Sure, we know he and Mika can, which is why it's so annoying to see them cling to the bad habits they developed under Quinn. We all agree those habits boosted their personal numbers, which is nice for them I guess, but the team can't fix it's issues if the most important players play for themselves and not the team.

It was always going to take more than (7) games to coach bad habits out of some of these guys.

 

[Mac n Gs]

This is going to be an unpopular opinion - just like the initial Tarasenko idea was in the summer - but if we want to look into solidifying our RW depth, I wonder what bringing in Jakob Silfverberg from Anaheim would cost.

Might be a tough fit with his contract having 2 years left at $5.25, but he’s always had really good chemistry with Mika, and he’s a solid PKer.

 

[Avery16]

 

[Crease]

Probably an indication that Kakko is ready to return Friday and will slide into the Buch slot.

 

[duhmetreE]

now if they only read my posts and switch Goodrow and Chytil

 

[LOFIN]

Probably an indication that Kakko is ready to return Friday and will slide into the Buch slot.

Yeah, no...




So my guess is Kreider will take Gauthiers spot on the top line RW. So it's back to Panarin - Strome - Kakko...

 

[duhmetreE]

The positive of Goodrow Zibs Kreider; it could be a good matchup line.

I guess Hunt Rooney McKegg is the other one?

Strome line was the only one not pinned deep against Calgary. So I guess we can go with the best defense is a good offense. Kakko should help as well.

That 3rd line should never be on the ice with the 3rd pair. NEVER EVER

 

[Avery16]

now if they only read my posts and switch Goodrow and Chytil

Nah this is better.

 

[tomobson]

Yeah, no...




So my guess is Kreider will take Gauthiers spot on the top line RW. So it's back to Panarin - Strome - Kakko...

Those top two lines are ugly.

 

[Blais to Win]

Since Panarin became a Ranger they have won zero playoff games and got in to one qualifying round due to a pandemic.

That’s not exactly a causal relationship, but I don’t like the implications of the correlation, either.

 

[Crease]

Yeah, no...




So my guess is Kreider will take Gauthiers spot on the top line RW. So it's back to Panarin - Strome - Kakko...

Has Panarin Strome Kakko ever worked?

 

[NYR Viper]

I thought the Panarin-Strome-Goodrow line looked really good against Calgary

 

[jay from jersey]

This very much pertains to us. Our skill guys need to buy in. They Fought Quinn to the death and Brooks just did an article claiming Gallant is all over them to do the same. Our to guys want to play pond hockey and until that changes we aren’t winning. Looking at Strome Panarin mostly here. I feel kreider is working hard Mika is working hard but Strome Panarin have got to get on board

of course we need more from lafreniere Chytil kakko as well. I’m a big Chytil fan but I have not liked his game at all thus far

It’s very simple. Those that don’t conform, trade. Those we can’t trade, or can’t trade yet, would likely be miserable from losing minutes, they’d ask out.
No one is saying it has to me completely north/south dump and chase with no creativity. But we need a basic structure, and when we take risks, they have to be calculated, not sloppy or half assed.
Even when they screw up, they’d better be doing it at full speed busting their ass and I’ll have no complaints.
If that’s to hard for some players to grasp, get some in who will

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I thought the Panarin-Strome-Goodrow line looked really good against Calgary

For a hot second.

Then Panarin went back to turning the puck over every second and it didn't.

He needs to stop doing that. He doesn't need to play a grindier game, he needs to stop playing like a moron.

 

[Kravtsov420]

What I don’t get is why can’t they just try Kakko on that top line? It’s fine if it doesn’t work, but how do we know it doesn’t? Does Panarin strome Kakko really work? We know that Panarin strome and a worker like fast worked. Why is it so hard with this franchise

 

[MrAlmost]

What I don’t get is why can’t they just try Kakko on that top line? It’s fine if it doesn’t work, but how do we know it doesn’t? Does Panarin strome Kakko really work? We know that Panarin strome and a worker like fast worked. Why is it so hard with this franchise

This.