Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVI

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They just won with 2 of their top 6 missing, maybe they will do it again?? Lol this board

Like I said in the last GDT. any time you have a healthy Zib, Panarin, Kreider, Fox, Shesty.. you have more than enough parts to be competitive
Did you watch those games?
 
Nemeth has been pretty steady while having a rookie as his partner.

Anyone asking for Hajek or Bitetto to be inserted is off their meds.

Yeah this I agree with.

If you're going to give Nils the spot out of camp, let him play his way out of the role before engaging in any tomfoolery. He's been in over his head, but its also been 3 games.

If he looks like this 15 games in, fine. Making the change now solves nothing.
 
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Professional sports teams should have contingencies for staying competitive through injuries. The roster I "cried" about doesn't cut it in this league.
They're banged up, not sure what you want. Barf, wouldn't even go to the game, roster doesn't cut it in this league.

Pittsburgh has played significant stretches in the past few years with half their lineup being filled with minor league players due to injuries.

The roster doesn't need to be perfect on paper. If we can win while our roster looks like garbage that's a good thing not a bad thing.
 
Did you watch those games?


Yeah Shesty stole it. Maybe he can steal another one? Its what star players do..its literally what Hank did for years.

Any team will look bad on paper missing 2 of the top 6.

Just got to weather the storm until the lineup is healthy.

Lots of whining around here for a team thats had a better start (in points) then they have had in years
 
Yeah Shesty stole it. Maybe he can steal another one? Its what star players do..its literally what Hank did for years.

Any team will look bad on paper missing 2 of the top 6.

Just got to weather the storm until the lineup is healthy.

Lots of whining around here for a team thats had a better start (in points) then they have had in years
The way they look with the top 6 fully healthy is still concerning. Hopefully things will get better. If not, we’re in trouble.
 
Yeah Shesty stole it. Maybe he can steal another one? Its what star players do..its literally what Hank did for years.

Any team will look bad on paper missing 2 of the top 6.

Just got to weather the storm until the lineup is healthy.

Lots of whining around here for a team thats had a better start (in points) then they have had in years

I mean just look at Buffalo, they’re missing their top 12!

*checks notes*

Scratch that, that’s the lineup they actually decided to ice.
 
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Barf. If I had tickets to the game, I'd give them away.


That’s a terrible pick for the 3rd line Gallant. He must have had too many sips of his water bottle behind the bench at practice.
Play Barron on 3rd line FFS.
LaF/Chytil/Blais is fine with me. I honestly would like to see that if he’s intent of panarin/Zibby combo.

goodrow-Barron-Gauthier just makes Sense
 
Yeah Shesty stole it. Maybe he can steal another one? Its what star players do..its literally what Hank did for years.

Any team will look bad on paper missing 2 of the top 6.

Just got to weather the storm until the lineup is healthy.

Lots of whining around here for a team thats had a better start (in points) then they have had in years
Call it whatever you want. Its been discussed on here just how many breaks this organization has received. Winning the lottos for Kakko and Laf, Fox forcing his way here, Ottawa criminally undervaluing Zibanejad, Torts chasing Panarin out of Columbus.
At some point, the FO needs to do some actual work and not just wait around for the lucky breaks.
I don't call chasing Kravtsov off the continent, tying up 4.5% of our cap for the next half-decade to a third-liner who so far hasn't seemed so hot, and trading Buchnevich for Blais effective personnel management.
 
I don’t even think nils will get the kind of opportunity/ minutes to be a point producer here. There’s a slim chance I guess if he switches to LD and displaces miller
I agree, but I guess the next point though that goes with that is if you allow him to develop more towards what you think he is he would have more value if you inevitably trade him than he would if you just deal them right now while he's an unknown quantity at this level. I remember the days when this organization had one right d and they were desperate to find anybody that could suit up on the right side, now we're flush with them. I'm becoming more and more convinced that trouba He's only going to be here until The summer of 23 or 24 and then he's going to be gone. The way the cap is laying out for this team along with how Schneider looked just really had me thinking that.
 
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Why call up Barron? Seriously.

Why break up the 4th line? the only line that was working.

It's not rocket science

Panarin Zibs Kreider
Lafreniere Chytil Blais
Goodrow Barron Gauthier
Hunt Rooney Reaves

I guess Strome is testing positive still? Thought he'd be back by now.

or if you want to get crazy

Panarin Zibs Kreider
Lafreniere Barron Chytil
Blais Goodrow Gauthier
Hunt Rooney Reaves

When Strome comes back, Barron to 3C. Goodrow to 3RW. Gauthier back to PB1
 
Why call up Barron? Seriously.

Why break up the 4th line? the only line that was working.

It's not rocket science

Panarin Zibs Kreider
Lafreniere Chytil Blais
Goodrow Barron Gauthier
Hunt Rooney Reaves

I guess Strome is testing positive still? Thought he'd be back by now.

or if you want to get crazy

Panarin Zibs Kreider
Lafreniere Barron Chytil
Blais Goodrow Gauthier
Hunt Rooney Reaves

When Strome comes back, Barron to 3C. Goodrow to 3RW. Gauthier back to PB1

But he's a college coach with no NHL experience...am I late?
 
Why call up Barron? Seriously.

Why break up the 4th line? the only line that was working.

It's not rocket science

Panarin Zibs Kreider
Lafreniere Chytil Blais
Goodrow Barron Gauthier
Hunt Rooney Reaves

I guess Strome is testing positive still? Thought he'd be back by now.

or if you want to get crazy

Panarin Zibs Kreider
Lafreniere Barron Chytil
Blais Goodrow Gauthier
Hunt Rooney Reaves

When Strome comes back, Barron to 3C. Goodrow to 3RW. Gauthier back to PB1
Yea it really makes no sense to me whatsoever.
If Barron is going to sit or play 4th line, the should have left him in the AHL and called up Richards. This is very dumb by Gallant. Hopefully it only last for a 1/2 or full period before he switches up the lines
 
I don't get why calling up a kid and easing him in with a simple gameplan while also rewarding the guys who are currently here who have by everyones admission played well is so mystifying.

Way too hung up on what "line" Barron is gonna play on.
 
It’s possible. Kravs value might be down a bit from his draft but he still has some value.
I just don’t see the high end player some people do. I see Buchnevich as a good comp to Krav if krav hits his ceiling. I don’t see a 80-90 pt winger.
Buch was proven and didn’t run back to Russia twice and he returned Blais and a 2nd in a good draft. He also needed a contract though.
Krav is younger and more unproven, but Buch would be my comp....
Drury might have to package krav with 1 of our young D prospects down the line to try and maximize value.

I actually see some similarities with Krav and Necas. All though I do think Necas will be better. But what I expect from Krav is similar, something like Buch. But Buch after his last season breakout. So we are still talking about, plausibly a 70 point winger. Even if he didn't ever reach 70, and maxed out at say 65, he would probably still be our best RW for the foreseeable future. Partly because I just do not see this kind of offensive progress from Kakko yet. He's progressed wonderfully defensively and in other areas, but his offense is yet to really show itself.

Which is also one of my gripes about trading Buch now that we are without Kravtsov as it's certain Buch would still be our best RW this season and the way things are looking, he would probably be our best RW still in 3 years from now. So in that sense I do think Kravtsov is a huge loss. At least until Kakko at least shows he's capable of producing offense. I guess Krav is sort of an insurance if Laf and/or Kakko fail to become offensive impact players. It's just less likely all 3 would fail than 2 failing. Which either way, would be awful for the rebuild in general, but worse if there is not a plausible backup solution. So in that sense I think moving Buch made Kravtsov even that much more valuable to the Rangers in particular. Which is why it will be difficult finding equivalent value.
 
I actually see some similarities with Krav and Necas. All though I do think Necas will be better. But what I expect from Krav is similar, something like Buch. But Buch after his last season breakout. So we are still talking about, plausibly a 70 point winger. Even if he didn't ever reach 70, and maxed out at say 65, he would probably still be our best RW for the foreseeable future. Partly because I just do not see this kind of offensive progress from Kakko yet. He's progressed wonderfully defensively and in other areas, but his offense is yet to really show itself.

Which is also one of my gripes about trading Buch now that we are without Kravtsov as it's certain Buch would still be our best RW this season and the way things are looking, he would probably be our best RW still in 3 years from now. So in that sense I do think Kravtsov is a huge loss. At least until Kakko at least shows he's capable of producing offense. I guess Krav is sort of an insurance if Laf and/or Kakko fail to become offensive impact players. It's just less likely all 3 would fail than 2 failing. Which either way, would be awful for the rebuild in general, but worse if there is not a plausible backup solution. So in that sense I think moving Buch made Kravtsov even that much more valuable to the Rangers in particular. Which is why it will be difficult finding equivalent value.

the insurance for LaF/Kakko makes sense to me. I hope they don’t fail that would be awful. We all pretty much knew Buchs fate when kreider signed.
I think they would have loved to keep him but just not at that cost for that many years. It’s ironic as well because I’m sure once Buch was dealt, krav thought he was a lock for a top 9 spot.
I’m not as worried because with the direction I see them going in, I think they want a more north south tough and tumble bottom 6. Not solely bangers devoid of talent, but more physical players then krav that play a more in your face style. There was so much talk about getting harder to play against.
The formula for most of the last recent cup winners is the same way. Not all, but most
4th line is fine, could be better. But I see them wanting that Tampa/LA Kings cup winning type 3rd lines with Brown, Goodrow, Gourde, etc
I just don’t think krav fits that style. To me our 3rd line should look like
Goodrow-Barron-Berard/Cuylle etc
Big bodies that cycle, hit, wear down the other team, and add some offense.
Berard not very big, but like Lindgren he plays a bigger game. Pest/ north south player type
Similar to what Trotz deploys for the isles. Capitals are the same way, Bruins, etc

it’s gives you a nice mix and a different look from our East/west skill guys like Panarin/Zibby.
LaF and Kakko aren’t/won’t pushovers the more they develop, but their not Cycle/grind get the puck deep type either.
 
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I don't get why calling up a kid and easing him in with a simple gameplan while also rewarding the guys who are currently here who have by everyones admission played well is so mystifying.

Way too hung up on what "line" Barron is gonna play on.
Because he has hands and the 4th line has been our best line.
 
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