Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVI

[rangers1314]

Have to believe its Geo tomorrow, big start for him.

 

[jay from jersey]

Idk, I’m thinking Jones is a better fit for us if we’re being real honest. Great at the transition game and can help the 2nd power play

Probably. I don’t think nils would take well to a full year demotion to Hartford.. with what just happened with Kravtsov, I think Drury might be a little gun shy there.
With that said, don’t be surprised if Schneider gets a look if any injury/demotion occurs either.
He had a solid pre-season

 

[RGY]

Have to believe its Geo tomorrow, big start for him.

I really hope not. Ride this hot streak with Igor. He is locked in. There is zero reason to start Georgiev (bum). Had 2 days off before last night, then have 3 days off after Monday. Igor should be in.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Idk, I’m thinking Jones is a better fit for us if we’re being real honest. Great at the transition game and can help the 2nd power play

If we're looking in house, I think the best case scenario is a Jones-Schneider 3rd pair with the other pairs staying as they are.

Miller has potential to be a very good transition D. I think his pass out of his own end is adequate, but nothing overly special at this point. He has the feet to carry it up ice (which I'd like to see more of when its there) or open up lanes against pressure to give him more options.

Regardless, if you have one guy on each pair who can at least take care of this, you're solid. Not everyone needs to be prime Karlsson, but you can't have one guy who is awesome (Fox) and the other 5 are a mix of okay to bad to Staal.

Trouba is weird in this regard. I'd categorize him as not good overall and he'll misfire on a ton of easy opps but then he'll thread one that has to fit inside of a teacup that ends up landing flat right on the tape of a teammate.

I really wish TDA didn't go full DeAngelo. He was a Maestro of transition offense.

 

[MrAlmost]

Ottawa is a prime candidate for a Krav, Geo and Hajek package. All young. All relatively cheap and all can play in the NHL right now. Grieg, Sanford and a pick. Makes sense Geo would play tomorrow.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Have to believe its Geo tomorrow, big start for him.

WTF IT IS???
I really want to beat Ottawa, and I want Laffy to shut up the Stutzle fanboys

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Probably. I don’t think nils would take well to a full year demotion to Hartford.. with what just happened with Kravtsov, I think Drury might be a little gun shy there.
With that said, don’t be surprised if Schneider gets a look if any injury/demotion occurs either.
He had a solid pre-season

I think Nils is MUCH more mature than Krav.

Hes been bad, but hes worked his bag off. I have no doubt that wouldn't change if he were sent down.

I also think its too soon. Give him 10 more games and then reassess.

 

[liv4socr20]

Let me preface this post with this: I think Nils has done a really admirable job trying to push his way through the physical part of the game and I think his work rate has been as good as you could want it to be.

But its clear that he isn't ready for this level. He's gotten swallowed up by pressure and his puck moving, even when not pressured, has been abysmal. Assuming that he doesn't start to show some signs of progression, how long do you continue to run with him?

Overall, I don't really see a long term spot for him here. His strengths are really "nice to have" rather than a necessity and hes weak in areas where the team isn't collectively strong (or are just bad.) If we're going to carry a 2nd undersized D, it's gotta be a DeAngelo type where they're just zipping pucks up ice and they are catalyzing offense and transition where you can live with some of the other issues (on ice issues at least.)

He’s 5 games into his NHL career! Let him develop a bit. Probably needs 20-25 games to get comfortable to the speed and ice size.

Definitely rough right now but we’re 3-1-1 and he’s 100x better than Tinordi and Hajek (not saying a lot)

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He’s 5 games into his NHL career! Let him develop a bit. Probably needs 20-25 games to get comfortable to the speed and ice size.

Definitely rough right now but we’re 3-1-1 and he’s 100x better than Tinordi and Hajek (not saying a lot)

Look at Seider - He's taken the ball and run with it for Detroit and looks great already. He's also coming over from the SHL. I've basically been preaching that Nils is going to need a ton of adjustment time here the entire summer, but its not a league thing as much as it's a skill set thing which worries me as there are certain things that he isn't doing that I don't know (or really think, at least with his tools) can be improved upon all that much.

I don't think its time to send him down yet (I prefer him to Tinordi and Hajek too, though I'm not sure Hajek would be any worse at this current moment but we already know what he is) but my question was really how long are people willing to ride out this wave before they'd consider it time to bite the bullet and send him down? Because with the way things are now, hes almost never in a position to utilize his strengths (his shot) as he's being hemmed in his own end for like 70% of the game.

 

[Doctyl]

Have to believe its Geo tomorrow, big start for him.

I’d really rather not see a Tim Stutzle 8 point night

 

[Kravtsov420]

I think Nils is MUCH more mature than Krav.

Hes been bad, but hes worked his bag off. I have no doubt that wouldn't change if he were sent down.

I also think its too soon. Give him 10 more games and then reassess.

Of course, just saying from what I’ve seen from the two so far I thought then and now Jones would fit in better. Not saying Nils won’t become what he is projected, way too early

 

[Ola]

Anyone surprised that Buffalo is a better team without Eichel? I am not.

 

[TominNC]

Let Nils play. If her's the higher ceiling let him work on it.

Geo has to play some time. There will never be a "perfect" place for him to start. Is there ever for a backup? He's gets the weak teams. Igor is only playing about 2/3 of the games this year. As much as some would like to see Igor play 70, it's not happening. So those 25 Geo games are happening somewhere. When do you want them? In bunches, or late in the season? In a back to back against two divisional opponents? No. So it's two for Igor, 1 for Georgiev. Rest days or not. Simple math.

 

[Ola]

On Nils, he has moved a long quickly during his career. But Luleå is Luleå and NYC is NYC.

The Captain for Luleå was basically a 20 year veteran and an Uncle to Nils on his mother’s side. Everyone knew him. Everyone loved him from the get go. He was eased into the SHL too.

Honestly, it seems like he just haven’t been able to shake of his nerves yet more than anything else. That is a bit surprising, everyone have nerves, but usually after 10 minutes the worst jitters are pushed aside and old habits takes over.

Nils will be fine. Maybe a stint in the AHL is necessary, or it won’t be. I am not worried, he is a very level headed kid.

 

[Avery16]

I'm of the opinion that Trouba is currently the second best defenseman on the team.

He just makes very visible gaffes occasionally instead of small mistakes constantly, which causes people to overestimate his error propensity.

Michal Rozsival had the same issue.

The issue with *most* people here on Trouba hasn’t been his ability. It’s his contract.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Anyone surprised that Buffalo is a better team without Eichel? I am not.

They’ve played 4 of the worst teams in the league

 

[McRanger92]

People who were disheartened by last night are really just looking for reasons to complain.

Short 2 top 6 forwards, they were the better team, allowed very little against 5v5 and really took the game over in the 3rd when they needed to. It wasn't a cake walk blow out or even a comfortable win, but thats also because Nashville's goalie is good. It was far from a flawless performance, but it was certainly good enough.

The PP sucks, that will get sorted out. Panarin sucks, that will get sorted out. Guys are out right now who will return pretty soon.

There are things that are glaring issues which are going to be tougher fixes (the PK has been masked by Igor, Quinn habits of floating around and waiting for pucks and being pretty lax in the NZ, Our D being generally terrible at moving pucks up ice) but even there those areas should improve with time, at least to some extent.

Good Post. The way i look at this season is the first 50 or so games the team can use to rack up points, lean on Igor and fully learn the system & develop chemistry. The 30 games after the Olympic break is when crunch time really starts. By that point the majority of the team should be rested, they should have Gallant's style figured out and reinforcements will be on the way at the deadline.

Igor playing at a Vezina level is the x-factor this team needed to make a large jump into contention. Lets hope it continues.

 

[McRanger92]

It seemed like last night game was a game Reeves should have left his mark on. You had a cheap shot elbow to the face and a very physical game and Reeves seemed to be invisible in that department. I get he's not gonna fight every game but I don't remember a player like him ever going to a new team and not fighting or show anything in preseason or regular season.

Dont disagree but in such a close game where the Rangers already take too many penalties, it wouldve been unwise to resort to score settling imo. Goodrow did challenge Benning, but Nashville will eventually come to MSG and I'm sure the team has a long memory

 

[McRanger92]

He knows when to get off and not overstay his shift too, which is important.

I am also continually impressed with Rooney.

He has sneaky speed, isnt afraid to mix it up, goes to the net, goes to the corners and into traffic, disrupts in the neutral zone, plays a smart system game on both sides of the rink - whatever the coaches need and he'll pop in the odd goal consistently. I was hoping they would protect him and glad they did.

Would not shock me to see Rooney extended mid-season, the Rangers clearly value him and he seems like a real glue guy who PKs and can play up in a pinch. Barron also described him as a role model when talking to the media yesterday.

 

[Avery16]

 

[Avery16]

 

[Fitzy]

The issue with *most* people here on Trouba hasn’t been his ability. It’s his contract.

Oh absolutely.

In 3 years time I fully expect one of Schneider or Lundkvist will be ready for those minutes and situations. At which point he can be dealt.

But some people go as far as to say he doesn't make this team better right now, which is asinine.

 

[Avery16]

Oh absolutely.

In 3 years time I fully expect one of Schneider or Lundkvist will be ready for those minutes and situations. At which point he can be dealt.

But some people go as far as to say he doesn't make this team better right now, which is asinine.

The logjam at RD got kicked down the road at least a couple seasons due to the DeAngelo/Georgiev/Gorton/JD fiasco.

Regardless, I really don’t think Trouba’s contract can be moved at whatever point we move it without including some sweeteners.

I’ve seen some people post critically of Trouba’s play. That contract comes with high expectations. His play hasn’t been perfect, but it’s been pretty good IMO.

I haven’t seen anyone say he shouldn’t have made the team, but maybe I missed that. We’ve all seen dumber posts.

 

[Matz03]

Nils has been bad? Nemeth-Lundqvist with some warts through the first few games have been miles better than any combo we've seen on the third pairing in years. Nils has gotten better with each game, if by bad people mean not a seasoned Vet, then that's true.

 

[Matz03]

Lafrenier-Chytil-Blais looked like a line that should be given a chance to stick, but I thought Goodrow-Rooney-Hunt was a solid line as well. Goodrow is an upgrade over Reaves, but we're right-winger short to round out the Panarin-Strome and Kreider-Zibanejad lines. Dumbass Kravtsov, couldn't give it some time.